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I hope someone on the wbo will be selling the prize bey for under 60 bucks. I know that makes me sound like a douche and all but I’m not paying 75-100 dollars (about 10 times the retail) for this bey, I’m just not going to lol.
(Dec. 18, 2020  3:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]I hope someone on the wbo will be selling the prize bey for under 60 bucks. I know that makes me sound like a douche and all but I’m not paying 75-100 dollars (about 10 times the retail) for this bey, I’m just not going to lol.

I'll probably just pay for the complete set (that's if it's like £100), so then at least I feel like I'll have my money's worth. Plus, with the High Drivers, the blue 4A and Axe Frames, and some parts I want like the red dP, lavender aH and the purple Power Driver, there's some appeal for me too personally.
(Dec. 18, 2020  3:25 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 18, 2020  3:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]I hope someone on the wbo will be selling the prize bey for under 60 bucks. I know that makes me sound like a douche and all but I’m not paying 75-100 dollars (about 10 times the retail) for this bey, I’m just not going to lol.

I'll probably just pay for the complete set (that's if it's like £100), so then at least I feel like I'll have my money's worth. Plus, with the High Drivers, the blue 4A and Axe Frames, and some parts I want like the red dP, lavender aH and the purple Power Driver, there's some appeal for me too personally.

I have a lot of my money save up, (150 dollars) and I might use them to buy beyblades. I might buy a few burst, but actually what said, Im not spening 1/2 or 1/3 or 1/4 of my money on one bey. Its gonna be costly for sure
(Dec. 18, 2020  3:27 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 18, 2020  3:25 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]I'll probably just pay for the complete set (that's if it's like £100), so then at least I feel like I'll have my money's worth. Plus, with the High Drivers, the blue 4A and Axe Frames, and some parts I want like the red dP, lavender aH and the purple Power Driver, there's some appeal for me too personally.

I have a lot of my money save up, (150 dollars) and I might use them to buy beyblades. I might buy a few burst, but actually what said, Im not spening 1/2 or 1/3 or 1/4 of my money on one bey. Its gonna be costly for sure
 
I’m just going to do what I said I would do before. Go to everwish, buy this stuff in wholesale and hope I get it. I have a friend who is really popular amongst beyblade tournaments in Toronto and he usually buys these things so maybe he would sell me one if he got another.
(Dec. 18, 2020  3:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]I hope someone on the wbo will be selling the prize bey for under 60 bucks. I know that makes me sound like a douche and all but I’m not paying 75-100 dollars (about 10 times the retail) for this bey, I’m just not going to lol.
Idk where you live in but if you live around asia or in Asia you might get a confirmed prize bey for under 45 bucks
Axe is basically vortex’
(Dec. 18, 2020  5:58 PM)Piplup Person Wrote: [ -> ]Axe is basically vortex’

agreed. Axe is better for sure.
What's the best place to buy the whole set, if you live in the EU?
(Dec. 18, 2020  3:25 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 18, 2020  3:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]I hope someone on the wbo will be selling the prize bey for under 60 bucks. I know that makes me sound like a douche and all but I’m not paying 75-100 dollars (about 10 times the retail) for this bey, I’m just not going to lol.

I'll probably just pay for the complete set (that's if it's like £100), so then at least I feel like I'll have my money's worth. Plus, with the High Drivers, the blue 4A and Axe Frames, and some parts I want like the red dP, lavender aH and the purple Power Driver, there's some appeal for me too personally.
 
I agree. That’s the best bet. Many aesthetically great pieces here.
(Dec. 18, 2020  3:44 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 18, 2020  3:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]I hope someone on the wbo will be selling the prize bey for under 60 bucks. I know that makes me sound like a douche and all but I’m not paying 75-100 dollars (about 10 times the retail) for this bey, I’m just not going to lol.
Idk where you live in but if you live around asia or in Asia you might get a confirmed prize bey for under 45 bucks

Hey I live in asia, TELL ME WHERE YOU CAN GET THOSE PLEASE
(Dec. 19, 2020  1:50 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 18, 2020  3:44 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: [ -> ]Idk where you live in but if you live around asia or in Asia you might get a confirmed prize bey for under 45 bucks

Hey I live in asia, TELL ME WHERE YOU CAN GET THOSE PLEASE
If you are lucky sometimes you can find it
Well, in the Philippines TT Beys prices range from 6 dollars to 62 I think. Problem is we only have GT Beys here.
(Dec. 22, 2020  11:07 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: [ -> ]

Ahh alright, so it seems like the Hollow ring has the metal at the bottom on the clear side and at the top on the black side. I’ve got to admit, that’s a very interesting and innovative design choice although I can’t say I think it’ll be all that good. We unfortunately never got a look at the teaser that would confirm the alleged Wyvern leak that Marutti found which kind of sucks.
I actually never caught on to this until now, but the purple aH isn't pearl purple like I thought it was, it's semi translucent purple. I thought the TT video showed a pearl coloured one, but looking back it is actually semi translucent, just very hard to see is all.

Hollow looks incredibly unbalanced but it could just be the chassis leaning towards an unbalanced mode, but it hops around quite a bit.

And no teaser paper shown, which I wish they did.
(Dec. 22, 2020  1:12 PM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]I actually never caught on to this until now, but the purple aH isn't pearl purple like I thought it was, it's  semi translucent purple. I thought the TT video showed a pearl coloured one, but looking back it is actually semi translucent, just very hard to see is all.

Hollow looks incredibly unbalanced but it could just be the chassis leaning towards an unbalanced mode, but it hops around quite a bit.

And no teaser paper shown, which I wish they did.

Nope it’s definitely the ring as well. Right side has metal on the top while the left side has metal on the bottom. Combine that with the chassis and it’s pretty much the most inconsistent thing ever. Admittedly looks fun though.
(Dec. 22, 2020  1:32 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 22, 2020  1:12 PM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]I actually never caught on to this until now, but the purple aH isn't pearl purple like I thought it was, it's  semi translucent purple. I thought the TT video showed a pearl coloured one, but looking back it is actually semi translucent, just very hard to see is all.

Hollow looks incredibly unbalanced but it could just be the chassis leaning towards an unbalanced mode, but it hops around quite a bit.

And no teaser paper shown, which I wish they did.

Nope it’s definitely the ring as well. Right side has metal on the top while the left side has metal on the bottom. Combine that with the chassis and it’s pretty much the most inconsistent thing ever. Admittedly looks fun though.

I am aware that the Hollow ring plays a part in it too, my point is that I think 4A's more unbalanced aligning is probably what's adding to the imbalance. The layer ring will probably suck competitively but it does look fun at the very least.
(Dec. 22, 2020  1:48 PM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 22, 2020  1:32 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Nope it’s definitely the ring as well. Right side has metal on the top while the left side has metal on the bottom. Combine that with the chassis and it’s pretty much the most inconsistent thing ever. Admittedly looks fun though.

I am aware that the Hollow ring plays a part in it too, my point is that I think 4A's more unbalanced aligning is probably what's adding to the imbalance. The layer ring will probably suck competitively but it does look fun at the very least.
If that’s what makes it suck, can’t you just turn it to balanced aligning problem solved?

You can always say “oh that limits it in the chassis department” but IMO it’s better than getting a disc to counterbalance since now you can choose a disc, frame, and tip that’s to your liking.
(Dec. 22, 2020  1:57 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 22, 2020  1:48 PM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]I am aware that the Hollow ring plays a part in it too, my point is that I think 4A's more unbalanced aligning is probably what's adding to the imbalance. The layer ring will probably suck competitively but it does look fun at the very least.
If that’s what makes it suck, can’t you just turn it to balanced aligning problem solved?

You can always say “oh that limits it in the chassis department” but IMO it’s better than getting a disc to counterbalance since now you can choose a disc, frame, and tip that’s to your liking.

Being unbalanced is just one of its many visible issues. Besides, why bother trying to counterbalance when you can just do better.
(Dec. 22, 2020  2:16 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 22, 2020  1:57 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]If that’s what makes it suck, can’t you just turn it to balanced aligning problem solved?

You can always say “oh that limits it in the chassis department” but IMO it’s better than getting a disc to counterbalance since now you can choose a disc, frame, and tip that’s to your liking.

Being unbalanced is just one of its many issues. Besides, why bother trying to counterbalance when you can just do better.

Just flip the chassis to the other side it takes 5 seconds. Its not like you have to build an entire combo with all the weight on one side.
(Dec. 22, 2020  2:25 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 22, 2020  2:16 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Being unbalanced is just one of its many issues. Besides, why bother trying to counterbalance when you can just do better.

Just flip the chassis to the other side it takes 5 seconds. Its not like you have to build an entire combo with all the weight on one side.

It’s the same on both sides. The ring doesn’t have a weight imbalance but rather an axis shift imbalance due to the different placement of metal on each side causing the centre of gravity to alternate continuously. It’s effectively the same result regardless of how you position the chassis.
(Dec. 22, 2020  2:45 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 22, 2020  2:25 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Just flip the chassis to the other side it takes 5 seconds. Its not like you have to build an entire combo with all the weight on one side.

It’s the same on both sides. The ring doesn’t have a weight imbalance but rather an axis shift imbalance due to the different placement of metal on each side causing the centre of gravity to alternate continuously. It’s effectively the same result regardless of how you position the chassis.
The chassis has most of the weight on one side, so it makes a difference depending on which side the right side is on. Yes Hollow also plays a role but you acting like there's no counter balance. Yeah it angles to attack, thats the point.

It angling isn't a sign on being unbalanced. Plenty of beys angle to attack.
(Dec. 22, 2020  2:51 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 22, 2020  2:45 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]It’s the same on both sides. The ring doesn’t have a weight imbalance but rather an axis shift imbalance due to the different placement of metal on each side causing the centre of gravity to alternate continuously. It’s effectively the same result regardless of how you position the chassis.
The chassis has most of the weight on one side, so it makes a difference depending on which side the right side is on. Yes Hollow also plays a role but you acting like there's no counter balance. Yeah it angles to attack, thats the point.

It doesn’t make a difference seeing as both sides of hollow have the same weight, I said it’s an axis shift not a weight imbalance. Putting 4A on either side will only have a slight minuscule difference that won’t have any effect. Also, unbalanced angled attack is bad and has been bad for a long time- so long as beys don’t burst, it will remain bad. 4a may have some use outside of its use on Deathscyther  but definitely not here.
So I watched the video and yeah, it's pretty safe to assume that Hollow won't be very good. Maybe a fun one to play with, but probably not competitively good.

Now granted, it's on the stock combo (which itself isn't that good anyway) but the Ring seems really unbalanced. I guess you could try and put a much heavier Disc or a Double Chassis, but I wonder how much that'll help.

Still, I'm excited and really want to get it regardless. It looks so cool and looks like you can mix and match a lot of fun and crazy combos.