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(Dec. 16, 2020  6:40 AM)Longinox Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 16, 2020  6:28 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: [ -> ]I hope the hollow ring can be a good right spin attacker since we've been lacking those from ages ago and it'd be really cool if hollow can counter tempest. I have high hopes for this release overall

I wouldn't say Hollow could beat Tempest or counter it, it might be on par with it maybe.

We already have enough Tempest counters I feel, but maybe it will be good on atomic (not again but truth is inevitable) If it's not aggressive enough this is potentially the most useless ring ever

(Dec. 16, 2020  6:50 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 16, 2020  6:40 AM)Longinox Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't say Hollow could beat Tempest or counter it, it might be on par with it maybe.

We already have enough Tempest counters I feel, but maybe it will be good on atomic (not again but truth is inevitable) If it's not aggressive enough this is potentially the most useless ring ever

I think variant will hold the title as the most useless ring

(Dec. 16, 2020  7:22 AM)KerbeusKmie Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 16, 2020  6:50 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: [ -> ]We already have enough Tempest counters I feel, but maybe it will be good on atomic (not again but truth is inevitable) If it's not aggressive enough this is potentially the most useless ring ever

I think variant will hold the title as the most useless ring

However if hollow is darn Imbalanced and does nothing it's more worth to use variant

I wouldn't be surprised if Hollow ended up being a lackluster Layer Ring performance-wise, consider the shape mostly resembles kD but rounder on one side. I'll still get it because it looks really cool and because I always like the Deathscyther beys, but here's hoping it's good or at least usable.

(Dec. 16, 2020  7:53 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't be surprised if Hollow ended up being a lackluster Layer Ring performance-wise, consider the shape mostly resembles kD but rounder on one side. I'll still get it because it looks really cool and because I always like the Deathscyther beys, but here's hoping it's good or at least usable.

Yeah this is exactly what I was thinking as well. It’s most likely gonna suck with all those varying contact points and unbalanced notches but it’s also the only prize bey I want since I really love Deathscyther beys. Everwish wholesale 😏.

(Dec. 16, 2020  7:56 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 16, 2020  7:53 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't be surprised if Hollow ended up being a lackluster Layer Ring performance-wise, consider the shape mostly resembles kD but rounder on one side. I'll still get it because it looks really cool and because I always like the Deathscyther beys, but here's hoping it's good or at least usable.

Yeah this is exactly what I was thinking as well. It’s most likely gonna suck with all those varying contact points and unbalanced notches but it’s also the only prize bey I want since I really love Deathscyther beys. Everwish wholesale 😏.

The three small blades on Hollow, whilst having bigger gaps, look like they have rounder edges than kD's three blades so I think it'll hinder the attack power more.

(Dec. 16, 2020  2:38 AM)YggdrasilWyvern Wrote: [ -> ]So a seller on eBay has the parts list in the description as follows (hope I'm not late...):

Hollow Deathscyther.12A.HA’ 4A
Hollow Valkyrie 11.Ab 1D
Abyss Longinus 13.Sp' 4A
Curse Deathscyther.8’.Zt' 1S
Dead Phoenix.3.HZ
Archer Hercules 10A.Pw
Storm Pegasis.Dr.HS
Draciel V.00W.HD

EDIT: what's funny is that I pre-ordered hours ago when it was listed and didn't happen to look at the description until just now. It's listed by a trusted seller of mine, 3.style, on eBay

Thanks for the parts info! Now to once again give my updated thoughts for each pull, except for Hollow Deathscyther which is pretty much a no brainer.

I'm still not that crazy for Hollow Valkyrie.11.Ab. 1D, The colour is okay but not that amazing. 11 is quite possibly my least favourite disk, or at least up there. Absorb isn't that desirable for me, unless the recolour is that good. 1D, I already have three of.

Abyss Longinus .13.Sp' 4A, I still love that layer recolour but man the parts are a massive let down. 13 is a bad disk and I already have enough. Spiral' is just not good for me. 4A is neat to get at least.

Curse Deathscyther.8'.Zt' 1S is not great. Curse isn't that nice in colour, it's just okay. The Deathscyther chip looks okay but the original is nicer. 8' is bleh, I have enough of them. Zt' is kinda lame, although if it has a unique and lovely recolour, it would be cool. 1S is nice to have and I hope we get a good recolour.

Dead Phoenix .3.HZ is still one of my more wanted pulls for that layer alone, seriously that red is a blessing for a beautiful Perfect Phoenix combo. 3 is bleh, but I surprisingly have little of those. High Zephyr is new, which is cool, though I wish it was a unique colour, as Zephyr is commonly red.

Archer Hercules .10A.Pw is a pretty cool pull for me. The Hercules layer is an amazing recolour as it reminds me of Ichika's bey. 10 is a decent disk. Getting another Axe frame in that recolour is neat. Power is a bad driver but I don't have a lot of these so I hope it's a good recolour.

Storm Pegasis .Dr.HS. Layer sucks and is ugly, Drake is... okay, but in green it seems weird... High Survive is the only one I want just for the recolour... but of course they had to save it for the tiresome remakes...

Draciel V .00W.HD, ugh you've gotta be kidding me. TT always does this, they always keep the interesting parts for the dang remakes. I know it's to balance out the weight of the pulls, but it's always so annoying. It's like they have no confidence for remake layer pulls. 00 is a nice disk, Wall in red look great, and High Defense in yellow looks fantastic! But the Draciel V in that colour is just bleh for me.

I also noticed how we've had Draciel F 00W Ch in the past, pretty similar combo lol 😂😂

(Dec. 16, 2020  2:49 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 16, 2020  2:41 AM)BeybladeManiac0 Wrote: [ -> ]Can someone please un-abbreviate the part names?

Hollow Deathscyther 12Axe High Accel Dash 4A (attack)
Hollow Valkyrie 11 Absorb 1D (defense)
Abyss Longinus 13 Spiral Dash 4A (attack)
Curse Deathscyther 8 Dash Zeta Dash 1S (stamina)
Dead Phoenix 3 High Zephyr
Archer Hercules 10Axe Power
Storm Pegasis Drake High Survive
Draciel V 00Wall High Defense

Cool that we get to see a rehash of the Power driver on something other than Slash Valkyrie. I think that's the first time. They really love spamming 1D, but at least we also get 1S. If you really wanted all the single chassis in one go, this would be the perfect time for it, along with Dead Phoenix and Archer Hercules which where really good Cho-Z picks. Abyss and Curse are kinda meh, and we don't know much about Hollow's performance yet. Still better than random booster vol. 21 which may not be that impressive, but always a plus.

Very hyped for Deathscyther, even if it's stock is less than meh.

Are these 100% confirmed, or is there the potential that the eBay seller was just trying to hyper people into a pre order

(Dec. 16, 2020  11:37 PM)BurstMaster Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 16, 2020  2:49 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]Hollow Deathscyther 12Axe High Accel Dash 4A (attack)
Hollow Valkyrie 11 Absorb 1D (defense)
Abyss Longinus 13 Spiral Dash 4A (attack)
Curse Deathscyther 8 Dash Zeta Dash 1S (stamina)
Dead Phoenix 3 High Zephyr
Archer Hercules 10Axe Power
Storm Pegasis Drake High Survive
Draciel V 00Wall High Defense

Cool that we get to see a rehash of the Power driver on something other than Slash Valkyrie. I think that's the first time. They really love spamming 1D, but at least we also get 1S. If you really wanted all the single chassis in one go, this would be the perfect time for it, along with Dead Phoenix and Archer Hercules which where really good Cho-Z picks. Abyss and Curse are kinda meh, and we don't know much about Hollow's performance yet. Still better than random booster vol. 21 which may not be that impressive, but always a plus.

Very hyped for Deathscyther, even if it's stock is less than meh.

Are these 100% confirmed, or is there the potential that the eBay seller was just trying to hyper people into a pre order

I think if they really made these up just to hype people, then they would've likely added much more desired Drivers than Sp' or Zt', like Xt+ or Mb.

Hollow Doomscizor video will be uploaded tomorrow!

(Master Blader H)

Its most likely Deathsycther will be good for a few combos. ?

(Dec. 17, 2020  3:29 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Its most likely Deathsycther will be good for a few combos. ?

Don’t know why everyone thinks this as it’s just Killer Deathscyther as a sparking bey which means that it would be plagued by having too many varying types of surfaces and contact points. Sure, it has metal but it’s also unbalanced which in the current meta is not an asset or positive account seeing as beys have become so heavy that they are harder to burst/knock out. As for its other parts (which I suppose I’ll just go over), 12 is the lightest disk in the game so I don’t think I need to go over that. Axe might be somewhat decent but nothing to scream about. High Accel’ is an interesting one, but the tall height probably wouldn’t do justice to Accel’s low friction/flat surface combination, it can be tested for classic at most. The Deathscyther chip will obviously be completely fine for competitive play while 4A will probably be good as well since it’s got that perfect owd/off centre concept that some attack types can use, it’s also tighter than 1S.

If I do end up getting this random booster I might as well get that Archer Hercules.

I haven't seen anyone discuss this yet, but the official images and descriptions for all the new parts were posted on the official website. Here's some translated descriptions:
https://twitter.com/databeys/status/1339...82816?s=20

I'm surprised they didn't make High Zephyr a Dash Driver, it's not like there were too many Dash Drivers available in the pulls or anything. TT is confusing, haha.

my god

high survive

is just

survive speedstorm


oh no

dios mio

Credit goes to this user - https://twitter.com/v23010/status/133919...26467?s=19

So yeah, someone drew a circle around the Hollow Ring to see how the contact points would fare within a circumference. The contact points are pretty rounded, and even the three smaller blades are rounder than the ones on kD (and kD's attack potential wasn't very good), so I think it's safe to assume that it won't have great attack potential.

Yeah, I know it has a huge gap on the top left that may inflict some damage too and some of the rounder Attack-Type Layers can be okay (like bK and tN, though it's debatable on how rounded they are in comparison), but somehow I doubt the attack potential here.

Of course, I could be wrong and if I am then please do tell me.

(Dec. 17, 2020  7:57 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]

Credit goes to this user - https://twitter.com/v23010/status/133919...26467?s=19

So yeah, someone drew a circle around the Hollow Ring to see how the contact points would fare within a circumference. The contact points are pretty rounded, and even the three smaller blades are rounder than the ones on kD (and kD's attack potential wasn't very good), so I think it's safe to assume that it won't have great attack potential.

Yeah, I know it has a huge gap on the top left that may inflict some damage too and some of the rounder Attack-Type Layers can be okay (like bK and tN, though it's debatable on how rounded they are in comparison), but somehow I doubt the attack potential here.

Of course, I could be wrong and if I am then please do tell me.

When you combine the smooth circumference with the varying points of recoil you basically just get a metal Killer Deathscyther. Part of being a good layer is having consistency. Too many different types of contact points isn’t always good because friction will constantly be getting reduced and increased effectively limiting attack power. Did I mention the fact that this thing is unbalanced? It’s probably gonna be worse than Killer Deathscyther was upon release because it’s unbalanced nature would also lower its stamina as well -meaning it wouldn’t work for any other type of attack either.

(Dec. 17, 2020  8:47 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 17, 2020  7:57 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]

Credit goes to this user - https://twitter.com/v23010/status/133919...26467?s=19

So yeah, someone drew a circle around the Hollow Ring to see how the contact points would fare within a circumference. The contact points are pretty rounded, and even the three smaller blades are rounder than the ones on kD (and kD's attack potential wasn't very good), so I think it's safe to assume that it won't have great attack potential.

Yeah, I know it has a huge gap on the top left that may inflict some damage too and some of the rounder Attack-Type Layers can be okay (like bK and tN, though it's debatable on how rounded they are in comparison), but somehow I doubt the attack potential here.

Of course, I could be wrong and if I am then please do tell me.

When you combine the smooth circumference with the varying points of recoil you basically just get a metal Killer Deathscyther. Part of being a good layer is having consistency. Too many different types of contact points isn’t always good because friction will constantly be getting reduced and increased effectively limiting attack power. Did I mention the fact that this thing is unbalanced? It’s probably gonna be worse than Killer Deathscyther was upon release because it’s unbalanced nature would also lower its stamina as well -meaning it wouldn’t work for any other type of attack either.

I doubt it won't work for any attack type. It might just be hard to find a good fit.

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There's are plenty attack combos that thrive off of being unbalanced and angled.

So how many blades does the Hollow ring have?

(Dec. 17, 2020  8:54 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]So how many blades does the Hollow ring have?

5

(Dec. 17, 2020  8:54 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 17, 2020  8:47 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]When you combine the smooth circumference with the varying points of recoil you basically just get a metal Killer Deathscyther. Part of being a good layer is having consistency. Too many different types of contact points isn’t always good because friction will constantly be getting reduced and increased effectively limiting attack power. Did I mention the fact that this thing is unbalanced? It’s probably gonna be worse than Killer Deathscyther was upon release because it’s unbalanced nature would also lower its stamina as well -meaning it wouldn’t work for any other type of attack either.

I doubt it won't work for any attack type. It might just be hard to find a good fit.

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There's are plenty attack combos that thrive off of being unbalanced and angled.

Too many varying contact points cancels that idea out. Killer Deathscyther was garbage and this thing is effectively the same thing as it inherits all the same issues + more since it’s unbalanced. The beys that thrive off of being unbalanced are the ones that are heavily upper or smash attack oriented and this thing is a combination meaning that it has no focus.

Thats about the same amount of blades Abyss has

(Dec. 17, 2020  8:55 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 17, 2020  8:54 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt it won't work for any attack type. It might just be hard to find a good fit.

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There's are plenty attack combos that thrive off of being unbalanced and angled.

Too many varying contact points cancels that idea out. Killer Deathscyther was garbage and this thing is effectively the same thing as it inherits all the same issues + more since it’s unbalanced.

First of all, the main reason this is unbalanced is because of 4A. You can just swap that out. Second of all, this layer not working on any attack combos is just a stupid train of thought. Of course its gonna work on some attack combos. yeah the lay out and size of the contact points makes it way different than others and thats obviously gonna make it harder to find a combo. Impossible? Heck no.

Nah when I get Hollow Deathsycther Imma just slap on Ignition' lol