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(Dec. 14, 2020  8:03 AM)Longinox Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 14, 2020  7:35 AM)TheLordGrim Wrote: [ -> ]Becuase In Beyblade Burst Gt Ichika’s Bey had the combo Archer Hercules Gravity Operate, so it’s most likely there doing an anime accurate combo and color

Aside from Ichika's aH, why'd they even put out the standard Gravity on different Beys? They could've made Gravity' or something.

That would definitely be interesting, but it is pretty apparent that the dash drivers are more popular than the dash discs. Especially when they don't even come close to 0, 10, 00 in terms of weight, which are already better discs.

(Dec. 14, 2020  8:06 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 14, 2020  7:41 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll have to agree, the plastic might crack if it's not able to snap by getting bent backwards.

I think unless TT decides to reinforce it early on or if the bar is thicker on the side, I really see it breaking with enough impact. What really doesn't help is that it's translucent plastic, which I've heard tend to be less durable and more brittle, though correct me if I'm wrong.

I think the only thing we can hope is that like Killer Deathscyther, the actual product itself is a lot more reinforced in the gaps than the renders. Because Killer Deathscyther's clear shell on it's official renders had more pronounced spikes on it's three blades and deeper gaps, whilst the actual Killer Deathscyther Layer had those spikes reinforced from the get go (though weirdly enough, Hasbro's Krusher Doomscizor Layer had no reinforcements and had the same spikier mold as the official renders of kD).

Typically the renders are actually NOT quite the same as the product as they are made a bit earlier during the final phases of production (which is why they get leaked early), so there is a chance that the actually product differs slightly. Also as for what you said about translucent plastic I kind of have to disagree, maybe it just me but I always see the solid colour plastic breaking and most of my breakages have involved the solid plastic (if we exclude drivers).

(Dec. 14, 2020  8:12 AM)BeyCrafter Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 14, 2020  8:03 AM)Longinox Wrote: [ -> ]Aside from Ichika's aH, why'd they even put out the standard Gravity on different Beys? They could've made Gravity' or something.

That would definitely be interesting, but it is pretty apparent that the dash drivers are more popular than the dash discs. Especially when they don't even come close to 0, 10, 00 in terms of weight, which are already better discs.

Well, 10 might be just Gravity' either way.

(Dec. 14, 2020  8:06 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 14, 2020  7:41 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll have to agree, the plastic might crack if it's not able to snap by getting bent backwards.

I think unless TT decides to reinforce it early on or if the bar is thicker on the side, I really see it breaking with enough impact. What really doesn't help is that it's translucent plastic, which I've heard tend to be less durable and more brittle, though correct me if I'm wrong.

I think the only thing we can hope is that like Killer Deathscyther, the actual product itself is a lot more reinforced in the gaps than the renders. Because Killer Deathscyther's clear shell on it's official renders had more pronounced spikes on it's three blades and deeper gaps, whilst the actual Killer Deathscyther Layer had those spikes reinforced from the get go (though weirdly enough, Hasbro's Krusher Doomscizor Layer had no reinforcements and had the same spikier mold as the official renders of kD).

Yeah, it seems that clear plastic tends to crack more often than opaque plastic while opaque plastic is more likely to receive gashes. I was actually not aware of that piece of trivia about Killer Deathscyther, but I suppose it would be a good way to deal with Hollow. Present it as a cool Ring in the renders, then make it more durable in the final release. I feel like Hollow might be a bit concerning regarding part damage because it looks like the right side has a metal contact point (although the tip of the metal part shouldn't be much of a problem because it's preceded by some clear plastic) and the left side looks fairly aggressive.

(Dec. 14, 2020  8:14 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Typically the renders are actually NOT quite the same as the product as they are made a bit earlier during the final phases of production (which is why they get leaked early), so there is a chance that the actually product differs slightly. Also as for what you said about translucent plastic I kind of have to disagree, maybe it just me but I always see the solid colour plastic breaking and most of my breakages have involved the solid plastic (if we exclude drivers).

I really hope you're right about that, because I hope the actual product of the Hollow Ring is more reinforced than the render here.

As for what I've said about translucent plastic, I could be wrong myself as the breakages tend to vary. In my case with the D2 Layer, I own three of them and all of them have cracked on the translucent plastic side whilst two of the three D2 Layers I own had the solid coloured plastic remain intact for me.

The reason I bring this up is because Hollow's top left blade has the same triangular-shaped gap as D2's translucent shell on the top left as well, and it makes me worried that it will crack as well.

(Dec. 14, 2020  8:25 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, it seems that clear plastic tends to crack more often than opaque plastic while opaque plastic is more likely to receive gashes. I was actually not aware of that piece of trivia about Killer Deathscyther, but I suppose it would be a good way to deal with Hollow. Present it as a cool Ring in the renders, then make it more durable in the final release. I feel like Hollow might be a bit concerning regarding part damage because it looks like the right side has a metal contact point (although the tip of the metal part shouldn't be much of a problem because it's preceded by some clear plastic) and the left side looks fairly aggressive.

Wait, are there metal contact points on Hollow? Because I don't really see it, unless the pearl gun metal colour on the Ring is supposed to be metal but I thought it was there just to give Hollow a Deathscyther look to it (half black, half translucent).

(Dec. 14, 2020  8:31 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 14, 2020  8:25 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, it seems that clear plastic tends to crack more often than opaque plastic while opaque plastic is more likely to receive gashes. I was actually not aware of that piece of trivia about Killer Deathscyther, but I suppose it would be a good way to deal with Hollow. Present it as a cool Ring in the renders, then make it more durable in the final release. I feel like Hollow might be a bit concerning regarding part damage because it looks like the right side has a metal contact point (although the tip of the metal part shouldn't be much of a problem because it's preceded by some clear plastic) and the left side looks fairly aggressive.

Wait, are there metal contact points on Hollow? Because I don't really see it, unless the pearl gun metal colour on the Ring is supposed to be metal but I thought it was there just to give Hollow a Deathscyther look to it (half black, half translucent).

I could be wrong, but it looks like the edge of the right side is made of metal. The part with the long, blue sticker looks like plastic, and there's a seam surrounding that part that separates it from what looks like a metal scythe.

What concerns me is the part that connects the front part of the clear side and the back of the black side, it looks really thin and given it's meant to support the aggressive shape of the clear side, it's a bit worrying.

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To be honest, except layer, all bad

(Dec. 14, 2020  3:53 AM)eigerblade Wrote: [ -> ]Translated what I could from the Corocoro pages

"The blades have metal, and it is heavy"
"One side has 3 smaller blades, the other has one main blade, the shapes and weight for each size are different"
"Even the chassis have different weight on each side"
The chip has no metal mentioned, so its probably a regular chip, looks cool tho

They also mentioned how "the first Deathscyther and Dark Deathscyther were very strong, they were not allowed to use in some tournaments",
implying that means this Deathscyther is gonna be very strong too. Nice try TT but we'll see.

To add on...
The description of Hollow mentions metal on both sides and the description of 4A mentions a hard lock along with the aforementioned weight difference

(Dec. 14, 2020  10:36 AM)Mage Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 14, 2020  3:53 AM)eigerblade Wrote: [ -> ]Translated what I could from the Corocoro pages

"The blades have metal, and it is heavy"
"One side has 3 smaller blades, the other has one main blade, the shapes and weight for each size are different"
"Even the chassis have different weight on each side"
The chip has no metal mentioned, so its probably a regular chip, looks cool tho

They also mentioned how "the first Deathscyther and Dark Deathscyther were very strong, they were not allowed to use in some tournaments",
implying that means this Deathscyther is gonna be very strong too. Nice try TT but we'll see.

To add on...
The description of Hollow mentions metal on both sides and the description of 4A mentions a hard lock along with the aforementioned weight difference

So 4A has good teeth right?

(Dec. 14, 2020  7:03 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 14, 2020  4:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]What I'm saying for my point about it not being lopsided is that obviously its not gonna be to the point where if it has a pointy tip it actually sufers. With Xcalius it giant blade being able to hit at various angles it actually good, cause then you could do something like hit then with a bunch of power directly on the Forge disc. If you're just going to normal attacks back up by weight having it angled would be good, but straight up wobbly ain't a good idea imo.

The forge disk synergies of Xcaliber were minimal, almost nonexistant. That's primarily Anime logic, not IRL logic. I don't take Anime logic into consideration at all. It's just so minuscule that it's not a significant factor.

Also, its predecessor Killer Deathscyther was "straight up wobbly" and "actually suffers" because of it, so why exactly should this one not be again? They've done it before despite how "dumb" it was, no? That doesn't make any sense if that was their goal.

(Dec. 14, 2020  4:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Some of it is smooth yes, but It clearly shows metal extending out from the smooth sycthe. Metal is aggressive I think.

Metal is neither aggressive or not in and of itself, it's simply a more dense material, a way to fit more mass into less space. What makes something aggressive or not is its shape, not raw mass alone. It still doesn't matter if half of it is moderately aggressive (though I don't think it's as aggressive as it looks, some blades get in the way of the others too much) because the other half is way too rounded and the complete opposite of aggression. That kills off a significant amount of offensive power and consistency unless it can manage on pulling something like Upper Attack off with that smoother side, which it certainly won't on High Accel' thanks to its tall height. Even if it does end up heavier than I'd expect, this shape is not impressive just like Killer Deathscyther and I see it dragging it way down.

(Dec. 14, 2020  4:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Obviously we can't weight it ourselves, but looking at a bey with a a ton of metal means its gonna have a high weight to it. That's just common sense. It has metal so it heavy. Simple train of though.

You're gonna have to point out all this metal I'm supposed to be seeing or something man. Like, I see very minimal amounts if any outside of the chassis, certainly not enough to get it on the level of Tempest or Rage. Also, you're still ignoring 12 as one of the lightest disks in the entire game. If it's using 12, it will not be heavy. That a simple enough train of thought for you?

I never said the forge disc thing worked, I said that since they have all of this power at one point wobbling  could hit at other angles like a forge disc and that would be good, for Xcalius.

Metal big hit. Big hit good.

Metal is heavy. Metal on layer. 4A have lot of  metal. Bey probably heavy.

(Dec. 14, 2020  11:42 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 14, 2020  7:03 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ]The forge disk synergies of Xcaliber were minimal, almost nonexistant. That's primarily Anime logic, not IRL logic. I don't take Anime logic into consideration at all. It's just so minuscule that it's not a significant factor.

Also, its predecessor Killer Deathscyther was "straight up wobbly" and "actually suffers" because of it, so why exactly should this one not be again? They've done it before despite how "dumb" it was, no? That doesn't make any sense if that was their goal.

Metal is neither aggressive or not in and of itself, it's simply a more dense material, a way to fit more mass into less space. What makes something aggressive or not is its shape, not raw mass alone. It still doesn't matter if half of it is moderately aggressive (though I don't think it's as aggressive as it looks, some blades get in the way of the others too much) because the other half is way too rounded and the complete opposite of aggression. That kills off a significant amount of offensive power and consistency unless it can manage on pulling something like Upper Attack off with that smoother side, which it certainly won't on High Accel' thanks to its tall height. Even if it does end up heavier than I'd expect, this shape is not impressive just like Killer Deathscyther and I see it dragging it way down.

You're gonna have to point out all this metal I'm supposed to be seeing or something man. Like, I see very minimal amounts if any outside of the chassis, certainly not enough to get it on the level of Tempest or Rage. Also, you're still ignoring 12 as one of the lightest disks in the entire game. If it's using 12, it will not be heavy. That a simple enough train of thought for you?

I never said the forge disc thing worked, I said that since they have all of this power at one point wobbling to the power could hit at other angles like a forge disc he good.

Metal big hit. Big hit good.

Metal is heavy. Metal on layer. 4A have lot of  metal. Bey probably heavy.

Yeh I guess, but metal does add weight to contacts, stock combo bad I guess, but Hollow may have use.

Hollow has a bizarre shape for sure. Finding a good combo for it might be kinda tricky.

(Dec. 14, 2020  11:56 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Hollow has a bizarre shape for sure. Finding a good combo for it might be kinda tricky.

Blitz Xtreme' 4A?

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But may not even have enough attack and give it less stamina?

(Dec. 14, 2020  11:58 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 14, 2020  11:56 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Hollow has a bizarre shape for sure. Finding a good combo for it might be kinda tricky.

Blitz Xtreme' 4A?

Maybe also throw on a Develos chip since it has a metal sparking chip core. I heard it helps.

I'm going back to Atomic

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Hollow Deathscyther has 12A, HA' and 4A.  The Hollow Valkyrie has 1D and 11.  The Abyss Longinus has 4A and 13.  Curse Deathscyther has 1S and 8'.  The Archer Hercules has 10 and I think the Axe frame.  The Storm Pegasis has Drake (finally).  Draciel V has 00Wall.  Dead Phoenix has the 3 disc.

Dang! That Dead Phoenix looks sick! And why does Deathscyther look like it's a Dual Layer though?

Does Deathscyther have metal on its ring?

(sorry if this question has been answered but im not going back a dozen pages to find it)

Imma get this booster! Its amazing!

                                This phoenix looks sick!

(Dec. 14, 2020  4:13 PM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: [ -> ]Does Deathscyther have metal on its ring?

(sorry if this question has been answered but im not going back a dozen pages to find it)

Yes, the metal is part of the scythe part on the right of the Hollow base.

The Dead Phoenix looks amazing! Ive always wanted a red recolor of dP and looks like my wish came true.

I hope the combos arent bad

Lets go. everything looks fire as usual