(Dec. 14, 2020 4:09 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 14, 2020 3:39 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Obviously the 4A is off balanced and will make the bey angled, however it won't be enough for pointy tips to be horribly unbalanced. Case in point Hollow. Hollow has a pointy tip, so it being horribly unbalanced for pointy tips would kill the stock combo, TT isn't dumb enough to let that happen. As for the layer itself it looks pretty aggressive, however the constant use of metal might hinder the bey. It has a really good weight to it in general and the attack points though, so it should be decent at the very least for attack combos. As for the frame I mean its just vortex. As for the tip I agree though.
The pointy tip thing is sheer nonsense. The whole Xcalibur line has sharp points and wobbles. Killer Deathscyther was the same. Why is this different again, or dumb to do? Did you forget that it worked for Sieg Xcalibur before?
It's aggressive on one side and smooth on the other. This didn't work for Killer, I don't see it working here. This is not what I call "pretty aggressive" by a long shot when half of it is just smooth.
We can't say anything about its weight until we can actually weigh it either. It's pointless to speculate on that without seeing an absolute ton of metal on it somewhere, and that's totally absent short of the chassis, but... 12 disk? That's the lightest disk in the game man, even with Axe for more weight.
Axe is probably just a far bigger Vortex. Is it gonna be great? Probably not, but it's far more likely to be heavier, and if it's heavy enough maybe it'll have some relevance? Probably not though.
What I'm saying for my point about it not being lopsided is that obviously its not gonna be to the point where if it has a pointy tip it actually sufers. With Xcalius it giant blade being able to hit at various angles it actually good, cause then you could do something like hit then with a bunch of power directly on the Forge disc. If you're just going to normal attacks back up by weight having it angled would be good, but straight up wobbly ain't a good idea imo.
Some of it is smooth yes, but It clearly shows metal extending out from the smooth sycthe. Metal is aggressive I think.
Obviously we can't weight it ourselves, but looking at a bey with a a ton of metal means its gonna have a high weight to it. That's just common sense. It has metal so it heavy. Simple train of though.
Axe is bigger than vortex yes but overall as you've also said its still not really gonna be relevant in the competitive scene. It doesn't have really to much advantage from what we can tell besides the fact that its just a little bigger.
Finally a new single chassis
is probably going to be the lightest but with the best teeth out of the 3
(Dec. 14, 2020 2:53 AM)Dasmind Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 14, 2020 2:46 AM)CrazyAries Wrote: [ -> ]Naked Spriggan.Pr.Om Ten is also a December product, as the prize Bey of a RB. And it has not owner, either.
The owner of RB prize frequently miss since GT, this might be caused by shorter anime length, make it difficult to put all the characters in.
Naked Spriggan.Pr.Om Ten Is not own by Shu and not own by others, please look at the color. Color resembles the user name
That's exactly what I say. So it is not the first time a December product don’t have its blader
(Dec. 14, 2020 5:06 AM)BeybladeManiac0 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 14, 2020 5:01 AM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: [ -> ]Finally a new single chassis
is probably going to be the lightest but with the best teeth out of the 3
I'm pretty sure 4A is going to be pretty heavy.
so its going to straight up be the best single chassis and very competitive for stationary attack?
cool, like, if it has trash teeth the new deathscyther would suck since he need a good burst resistance because of its shape
Looks like was right btw. It has the 12 disk because it’s other parts are heavy.
When are pictures getting released
(Dec. 14, 2020 5:51 AM)Longinox Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 14, 2020 5:17 AM)Sahaj Buttar Wrote: [ -> ]When are pictures getting released
There's some that's been released, like this for example;
Please delete this post; it is after all against the rules.
, the official HD images should release at around midday in Japan. Also, friendly reminder that CoroCoro images (and leaked images in general) aren't allowed on the WBO.
Ah, sorry mates. Won't do it again.
(Dec. 14, 2020 4:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]What I'm saying for my point about it not being lopsided is that obviously its not gonna be to the point where if it has a pointy tip it actually sufers. With Xcalius it giant blade being able to hit at various angles it actually good, cause then you could do something like hit then with a bunch of power directly on the Forge disc. If you're just going to normal attacks back up by weight having it angled would be good, but straight up wobbly ain't a good idea imo.
The forge disk synergies of Xcaliber were minimal, almost nonexistant. That's primarily Anime logic, not IRL logic. I don't take Anime logic into consideration at all. It's just so minuscule that it's not a significant factor.
Also, its predecessor Killer Deathscyther was "straight up wobbly" and "actually suffers" because of it, so why exactly should this one not be again? They've done it before despite how "dumb" it was, no? That doesn't make any sense if that was their goal.
(Dec. 14, 2020 4:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Some of it is smooth yes, but It clearly shows metal extending out from the smooth sycthe. Metal is aggressive I think.
Metal is neither aggressive or not in and of itself, it's simply a more dense material, a way to fit more mass into less space. What makes something aggressive or not is its
shape, not raw mass alone. It still doesn't matter if half of it is moderately aggressive (though I don't think it's as aggressive as it looks, some blades get in the way of the others too much) because the other half is way too rounded and the complete opposite of aggression. That kills off a significant amount of offensive power and consistency unless it can manage on pulling something like Upper Attack off with that smoother side, which it certainly won't on High Accel' thanks to its tall height. Even if it does end up heavier than I'd expect, this shape is not impressive just like Killer Deathscyther and I see it dragging it way down.
(Dec. 14, 2020 4:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Obviously we can't weight it ourselves, but looking at a bey with a a ton of metal means its gonna have a high weight to it. That's just common sense. It has metal so it heavy. Simple train of though.
You're gonna have to point out all this metal I'm supposed to be seeing or something man. Like, I see very minimal amounts if any outside of the chassis, certainly not enough to get it on the level of Tempest or Rage. Also, you're still ignoring 12 as one of the lightest disks in the entire game. If it's using 12, it will not be heavy. That a simple enough train of thought for you?
I have an image of what it looks like but I won’t send
From what I can tell the combo on Abyss Longinus is 12 Sprial or spiral’ 4A
Draciel has 00
Dead Phoenix may have either 10 or gravity
And archer Hercules might have gravity (relating to the anime accurate combo ichika had)
Looking back at the image, one thing that does bring up some concern from me is on the more "aggressive" looking left side of the Layer Ring. I'm not so much concerned about the performance of it, since I'm not expecting it to be a great Ring performance-wise, but rather how durable it is.
When looking at it, one of the three small blades (particularly the one of the top left behind the scythe sickle, the biggest of the three small blades) has a huge gap with thin plastic between the said gap and the Chassis, which leads me to believe that it might suffer from breakage issues very akin to D2's shell of the Layer from the Dual Layers. That worries me and I hope it's a lot thicker on sideview or that TT releases it with more reinforcements.
(Dec. 14, 2020 7:30 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]Looking back at the image, one thing that does bring up some concern from me is on the more "aggressive" looking left side of the Layer Ring. I'm not so much concerned about the performance of it, since I'm not expecting it to be a great Ring performance-wise, but rather how durable it is.
When looking at it, one of the three small blades (particularly the one of the top left, the biggest of the three small blades) has a huge gap with thin plastic between the said gap and the Chassis, which leads me to believe that it might suffer from breakage issues very akin to D2's shell of the Layer from the Dual Layers. That worries me and I hope it's a lot thicker on sideview or that TT releases it with more reinforcements.
From the Underneath view it seems like the scythe part would be supported by metal
(Dec. 14, 2020 7:31 AM)Longinox Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 14, 2020 7:24 AM)TheLordGrim Wrote: [ -> ]I have an image of what it looks like but I won’t send
From what I can tell the combo on Abyss Longinus is 12 Sprial or spiral’ 4A
Draciel has 00
Dead Phoenix may have either 10 or gravity
And archer Hercules might have gravity (relating to the anime accurate combo ichika had)
Gravity? Why?
Becuase In Beyblade Burst Gt Ichika’s Bey had the combo Archer Hercules Gravity Operate, so it’s most likely there doing an anime accurate combo and color
(Dec. 14, 2020 7:32 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 14, 2020 7:30 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]Looking back at the image, one thing that does bring up some concern from me is on the more "aggressive" looking left side of the Layer Ring. I'm not so much concerned about the performance of it, since I'm not expecting it to be a great Ring performance-wise, but rather how durable it is.
When looking at it, one of the three small blades (particularly the one of the top left, the biggest of the three small blades) has a huge gap with thin plastic between the said gap and the Chassis, which leads me to believe that it might suffer from breakage issues very akin to D2's shell of the Layer from the Dual Layers. That worries me and I hope it's a lot thicker on sideview or that TT releases it with more reinforcements.
From the Underneath view it seems like the scythe part would be supported by metal
I mean the completely translucent side with three small blades on the left, the support holding the part between the first small place and the scythe sickle is incredibly thin.
Plus, I don't think metal really helps reinforce it that much more. The metal on my Dead Armour from Dead Phoenix broke before the plastic part did, so it's not always guaranteed.
(Dec. 14, 2020 7:36 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 14, 2020 7:32 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: [ -> ]From the Underneath view it seems like the scythe part would be supported by metal
I mean the completely translucent side with three small blades on the left, the support holding the part between the first small place and the scythe sickle is incredibly thin.
Plus, I don't think metal really helps reinforce it that much more. The metal on my Dead Armour from Dead Phoenix broke before the plastic part did, so it's not always guaranteed.
I'll have to agree, the plastic might crack if it's not able to snap by getting bent backwards.
(Dec. 14, 2020 7:35 AM)TheLordGrim Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 14, 2020 7:31 AM)Longinox Wrote: [ -> ]Gravity? Why?
Becuase In Beyblade Burst Gt Ichika’s Bey had the combo Archer Hercules Gravity Operate, so it’s most likely there doing an anime accurate combo and color
Aside from Ichika's aH, why'd they even put out the standard Gravity on different Beys? They could've made Gravity' or something.
Can someone dm me the pictures for the new deathscyther? Thanks
(Dec. 14, 2020 7:41 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll have to agree, the plastic might crack if it's not able to snap by getting bent backwards.
I think unless TT decides to reinforce it early on or if the bar is thicker on the side, I really see it breaking with enough impact. What really doesn't help is that it's translucent plastic, which I've heard tend to be less durable and more brittle, though correct me if I'm wrong.
I think the only thing we can hope is that like Killer Deathscyther, the actual product itself is a lot more reinforced in the gaps than the renders. Because Killer Deathscyther's clear shell on it's official renders had more pronounced spikes on it's three blades and deeper gaps, whilst the actual Killer Deathscyther Layer had those spikes reinforced from the get go (though weirdly enough, Hasbro's Krusher Doomscizor Layer had no reinforcements and had the same spikier mold as the official renders of kD).