(Oct. 14, 2020 10:27 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 10:05 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I agree. Helios is already better than Hyperion cause it can spin steal though. It might be better against lefts now is what I think you mean.
Spin steal!!!???
Yeah, Helios has zone, and zone has better lad then Xceed. The only way Hyperion can beat Helios is a knockout.
(Oct. 14, 2020 10:30 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 10:27 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]Spin steal!!!???
Yeah, Helios has zone, and zone has better lad then Xceed. The only way Hyperion can beat Helios is a knockout.
Helios has the same gimmick as Shu then? Meaning he can beat Lane with this new Helios. I feel like after this evolution, Hikaru will make a huge comeback.
(Oct. 14, 2020 10:27 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 10:05 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I agree. Helios is already better than Hyperion cause it can spin steal though. It might be better against lefts now is what I think you mean.
Spin steal!!!???
Not with rubber, when a right-spinning bey pushes one of helios's blades, that causes him to spin faster, and that's spin steal.
(Oct. 14, 2020 10:34 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 10:31 PM)Master_chanter0 Wrote: [ -> ]Not with rubber, when a right-spinning bey pushes one of helios's blades, that causes him to spin faster, and that's spin steal.
Ohhh! I get it.
Bruh, any bey can spin equalize.
(Oct. 14, 2020 10:43 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 10:34 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]Ohhh! I get it.
Bruh, any bey can spin equalize.
Only against opposite spins.
(Oct. 14, 2020 10:45 PM)Master_chanter0 Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 10:43 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]Bruh, any bey can spin equalize.
Only against opposite spins.
Of course, though that was already known by thegoldenblade.
(Oct. 14, 2020 10:43 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 10:34 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]Ohhh! I get it.
Bruh, any bey can spin equalize.
true any bey can, but there are some who can't. its all in the driver.
for example, zephyr, fusion, survive, spiral, jolt, power, and other drivers cant spin steal.
I made them. I was also waiting for Takara Tomy to officially release the product, now I fixed them, but I'm waiting for the parts next month so I can fully fix them.
(Oct. 14, 2020 1:24 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 1:21 PM)TitaniumNinja74 Wrote: [ -> ]Someone else made those pages on the wiki, all I did was linked them.
Ah ok, sorry
I made them. I was also waiting for Takara Tomy to officially release the product, now I fixed them, but I'm waiting for the parts next month so I can fully fix them.
I think Hyperion Burn will clap Helios Volcano IRL. Those massive extending blades look like they will have awesome recoil.
(Oct. 14, 2020 10:52 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 10:43 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]Bruh, any bey can spin equalize.
true any bey can, but there are some who can't. its all in the driver.
for example, zephyr, fusion, survive, spiral, jolt, power, and other drivers cant spin steal.
The driver doesn't affect spin-stealing, whether or not a bey can "spin steal" (to be accurate, it's "spin equalize") depends entirely on whether or not the two beys are spinning the opposite direction of each other (a left spin VS a right spin, for example).
The only way that a driver can affect this equalization is in terms of Life After Death (LAD), which usually determines which of the two beys lasts longer in the last few seconds.
(Oct. 14, 2020 11:48 PM)BladerGem Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 10:52 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]true any bey can, but there are some who can't. its all in the driver.
for example, zephyr, fusion, survive, spiral, jolt, power, and other drivers cant spin steal.
The driver doesn't affect spin-stealing, whether or not a bey can "spin steal" (to be accurate, it's "spin equalize") depends entirely on whether or not the two beys are spinning the opposite direction of each other (a left spin VS a right spin, for example).
The only way that a driver can affect this equalization is in terms of Life After Death (LAD), which usually determines which of the two beys lasts longer in the last few seconds.
Most beys can't spin steal. Rubber beyblades can but you cant just take Glide Ragnaruk and make it spin steal.
(Oct. 14, 2020 11:53 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 11:48 PM)BladerGem Wrote: [ -> ]The driver doesn't affect spin-stealing, whether or not a bey can "spin steal" (to be accurate, it's "spin equalize") depends entirely on whether or not the two beys are spinning the opposite direction of each other (a left spin VS a right spin, for example).
The only way that a driver can affect this equalization is in terms of Life After Death (LAD), which usually determines which of the two beys lasts longer in the last few seconds.
Most beys can't spin steal. Rubber beyblades can but you cant just take Glide Ragnaruk and make it spin steal.
I mean, that's more to do with the Glide ring being smooth and round, but I digress.
Any beyblade can spin equalize, as long as they are against an opponent who is spinning in the opposite direction.
i am salty beacuse i was going to make my own sparking/gt dullahn before i new hasbro was going to make one
@#Fafnir No trying to rush, but when you get the chance rename this thread to B-174 Limit Break DX Set
(Oct. 14, 2020 11:48 PM)BladerGem Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 10:52 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]true any bey can, but there are some who can't. its all in the driver.
for example, zephyr, fusion, survive, spiral, jolt, power, and other drivers cant spin steal.
The driver doesn't affect spin-stealing, whether or not a bey can "spin steal" (to be accurate, it's "spin equalize") depends entirely on whether or not the two beys are spinning the opposite direction of each other (a left spin VS a right spin, for example).
The only way that a driver can affect this equalization is in terms of Life After Death (LAD), which usually determines which of the two beys lasts longer in the last few seconds.
Try doing Zwei Longinus vs. slash valkryie or anything with the drivers I mentioned. There will be no spin steal.
(Oct. 15, 2020 12:59 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 11:48 PM)BladerGem Wrote: [ -> ]The driver doesn't affect spin-stealing, whether or not a bey can "spin steal" (to be accurate, it's "spin equalize") depends entirely on whether or not the two beys are spinning the opposite direction of each other (a left spin VS a right spin, for example).
The only way that a driver can affect this equalization is in terms of Life After Death (LAD), which usually determines which of the two beys lasts longer in the last few seconds.
Try doing Zwei Longinus vs. slash valkryie or anything with the drivers I mentioned. There will be no spin steal.
No duh I'd think, as spin steal and spin equalization aren't the same thing.
Just because a driver doesn't have good LAD doesn't mean spin equalization isn't happening. It's just that there's too little stamina for it to have a major effect. Not spin steal, but spin equalization.
(Oct. 14, 2020 11:37 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Here are my thoughts about this
Hyperion and Helios (2) are the chips
Burn and Volcano are the rings
Super and King are the chassis
The chips, rings, and chassis are fused
Xceed’ and Zone’ are the tips
X and Z are attachments for the tips
Names of the ring and chip are switched, so it’s Hyperion Burn and Helios Volcano
X and Z i predict are the name of the chassis. I'm think its also going to be pronounced, Burn Hyperion and Volcano Helios. They only did this once years ago. And it didn't really roll off the tongue. and i don't think the rings, chips, and chassis are going to be fused. That would be annoying. Since then you can't customize the new parts.
(Oct. 15, 2020 1:03 AM)rainy days Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 14, 2020 11:37 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Here are my thoughts about this
Hyperion and Helios (2) are the chips
Burn and Volcano are the rings
Super and King are the chassis
The chips, rings, and chassis are fused
Xceed’ and Zone’ are the tips
X and Z are attachments for the tips
Names of the ring and chip are switched, so it’s Hyperion Burn and Helios Volcano
X and Z i predict are the name of the chassis. I'm think its also going to be pronounced, Burn Hyperion and Volcano Helios. They only did this once years ago. And it didn't really roll off the tongue. and i don't think the rings, chips, and chassis are going to be fused. That would be annoying. Since then you can't customize the new parts.
+X and +Z are tip attachments. It will probably be Hyperion Burn and Helios Volcano as well. Like How Spryzen Requiem isn't Requiem Spryzen.
Finally new disc I'll be waiting for these from a long time really glad they didn't reuse old disc
(Oct. 15, 2020 1:05 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 15, 2020 1:03 AM)rainy days Wrote: [ -> ]X and Z i predict are the name of the chassis. I'm think its also going to be pronounced, Burn Hyperion and Volcano Helios. They only did this once years ago. And it didn't really roll off the tongue. and i don't think the rings, chips, and chassis are going to be fused. That would be annoying. Since then you can't customize the new parts.
+X and +Z are tip attachments. It will probably be Hyperion Burn and Helios Volcano as well. Like How Spryzen Requiem isn't Requiem Spryzen.
We will know Oct 30. And isn't Lane getting an upgrade soon?
(Oct. 15, 2020 1:09 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 15, 2020 1:08 AM)rainy days Wrote: [ -> ]We will know Oct 30. And isn't Lane getting an upgrade soon?
In November as well.
Its time to start predicting names.
(Oct. 15, 2020 1:01 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 15, 2020 12:59 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]Try doing Zwei Longinus vs. slash valkryie or anything with the drivers I mentioned. There will be no spin steal.
No duh I'd think, as spin steal and spin equalization aren't the same thing.
Just because a driver doesn't have good LAD doesn't mean spin equalization isn't happening. It's just that there's too little stamina for it to have a major effect. Not spin steal, but spin equalization.
Oh, that makes more sense.
Top view of the beys
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Edit:Cho and Ou disc can been seen here and the +X and +Z attachment
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