(Sep. 16, 2020 2:11 AM)UNIONburst Wrote: [ -> ]I'm really excited about the new infinite Achilles. who knows how strong is that bey...maybe the defense attachments would be so strong that a bey's attack would be ineffective and its attacks would be so strong, right??
Well, that statement is certainly an exaggeration. The Infinite Swords attachment is probably going to be decent for Mobile Attack setups on Drivers like Xtreme' and Quick', while the Infinite Shields attachment might be good for Mobile Defense combos with the Destroy' Driver and potentially Hold', and it could also be decent on Xtend+. I wouldn't say that Infinite is going to destroy its opponents as easily as Rage with the Infinite Swords or that it would render the opponent's attacks useless, since that's simply unrealistic. A safe assumption to make is that it's at least going to be nice as a counter to specific top tier Beys, such as Lord with the Swords and an aggressive Driver or Super/First and Brave with the Shields and Unite' or Keep'.
(Sep. 16, 2020 2:30 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 16, 2020 2:11 AM)UNIONburst Wrote: [ -> ]I'm really excited about the new infinite Achilles. who knows how strong is that bey...maybe the defense attachments would be so strong that a bey's attack would be ineffective and its attacks would be so strong, right??
Well, that statement is certainly an exaggeration. The Infinite Swords attachment is probably going to be decent for Mobile Attack setups on Drivers like Xtreme' and Quick', while the Infinite Shields attachment might be good for Mobile Defense combos with the Destroy' Driver and potentially Hold', and it could also be decent on Xtend+. I wouldn't say that Infinite is going to destroy its opponents as easily as Rage with the Infinite Swords or that it would render the opponent's attacks useless, since that's simply unrealistic. A safe assumption to make is that it's at least going to be nice as a counter to specific top tier Beys, such as Lord with the Swords and an aggressive Driver or Super/First and Brave with the Shields and Unite' or Keep'.
Maybe with another chassis it could, who knows.
Either way, I'm quite excited for Infinite Achilles since the Achilles line is one of my favorites, the sad part is that it is a RB prize so it can get a little bit expensive...
(Sep. 16, 2020 2:38 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 16, 2020 2:30 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ][snip]
Maybe with another chassis it could, who knows.
Well, switching to an optimal Chassis should be implied when discussing viability. With that taken into account, I doubt that the attachments would make such a huge difference that they outperform top-tier Beys. Left-Spin Master and Bound Mode Tempest (both on Unite' or Keep') are two of our best defensive options at the moment, and both can still be knocked around by good Attack combos, so I highly doubt that the Infinite Shields would make Infinite outperform both of them by so much that Rage and Judgement don't make it budge. If anything, Infinite without an attachment should be regarded as a "Balance Type" and the attachments would make the Ring more aggressively inclined (Infinite Swords) or defensively inclined (Infinite Shields) rather than going from Balance to Attack or Defense completely.
(Sep. 16, 2020 2:30 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 16, 2020 2:11 AM)UNIONburst Wrote: [ -> ]I'm really excited about the new infinite Achilles. who knows how strong is that bey...maybe the defense attachments would be so strong that a bey's attack would be ineffective and its attacks would be so strong, right??
Well, that statement is certainly an exaggeration. The Infinite Swords attachment is probably going to be decent for Mobile Attack setups on Drivers like Xtreme' and Quick', while the Infinite Shields attachment might be good for Mobile Defense combos with the Destroy' Driver and potentially Hold', and it could also be decent on Xtend+. I wouldn't say that Infinite is going to destroy its opponents as easily as Rage with the Infinite Swords or that it would render the opponent's attacks useless, since that's simply unrealistic. A safe assumption to make is that it's at least going to be nice as a counter to specific top tier Beys, such as Lord with the Swords and an aggressive Driver or Super/First and Brave with the Shields and Unite' or Keep'.
GRRRRR, QUITE!!!
(Sep. 16, 2020 3:00 AM)UNIONburst Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 16, 2020 2:30 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ][snip]
GRRRRR, QUITE!!!
What? Just staying realistic. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(Sep. 16, 2020 3:00 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 16, 2020 3:00 AM)UNIONburst Wrote: [ -> ]GRRRRR, QUITE!!!
What? Just staying realistic. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I know, but stop being a smartypants, it annoys me the most... having a "smartypants" talking to me ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
(Sep. 16, 2020 3:04 AM)UNIONburst Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 16, 2020 3:00 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ]What? Just staying realistic. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I know, but stop being a smartypants, it annoys me the most... having a "smartypants" talking to me ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
kay' fine, no more quarreling
(Sep. 16, 2020 2:59 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 16, 2020 2:38 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe with another chassis it could, who knows.
Well, switching to an optimal Chassis should be implied when discussing viability. With that taken into account, I doubt that the attachments would make such a huge difference that they outperform top-tier Beys. Left-Spin Master and Bound Mode Tempest (both on Unite' or Keep') are two of our best defensive options at the moment, and both can still be knocked around by good Attack combos, so I highly doubt that the Infinite Shields would make Infinite outperform both of them by so much that Rage and Judgement don't make it budge. If anything, Infinite without an attachment should be regarded as a "Balance Type" and the attachments would make the Ring more aggressively inclined (Infinite Swords) or defensively inclined (Infinite Shields) rather than going from Balance to Attack or Defense completely.
I guess we’ll find out this October
(Sep. 16, 2020 3:04 AM)UNIONburst Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 16, 2020 3:00 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ]What? Just staying realistic. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I know, but stop being a smartypants, it annoys me the most... having a "smartypants" talking to me ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
I will admit that I
always sometimes go a bit overboard with my explanations. Part of being a competitive player like myself is being able to estimate the viability of something by the way it looks so then it's easier to determine what kinds of combos you can use it on or if you should use it at all.
(Sep. 16, 2020 2:53 AM)TitaniumNinja74 Wrote: [ -> ]Either way, I'm quite excited for Infinite Achilles since the Achilles line is one of my favorites, the sad part is that it is a RB prize so it can get a little bit expensive...
Same Union Achilles was the first real TT burst bey I got so it holds a special place.
(Sep. 16, 2020 3:08 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 16, 2020 3:04 AM)UNIONburst Wrote: [ -> ]I know, but stop being a smartypants, it annoys me the most... having a "smartypants" talking to me ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
I will admit that I always sometimes go a bit overboard with my explanations. Part of being a competitive player like myself is being able to estimate the viability of something by the way it looks so then it's easier to determine what kinds of combos you can use it on or if you should use it at all.
I personally like overboard explanations rather than smaller ones.
Possible confirmed layers for the upcoming rb, infinite achilles sword, infinite achilles shield, driger v, possibly dragoon v, dead hades, hell salamander, ace recolor, super credit goes to and this is from the spriggan sheet
(Sep. 17, 2020 2:31 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: [ -> ]the confirmed layers for the upcoming rb, infinite achilles sword, infinite achilles shield, driger v, possibly dragoon v, dead hades, hell salamander, ace recolor, super credit goes to and this is from the spriggan sheet
What about rock Leone?
What about rock Leone?
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It's not there I'm afraid
(Sep. 17, 2020 2:39 PM)Saishreyas.G Wrote: [ -> ]Confirmed info on Infinite Achilles from the combo sheet of world spriggan. Infinite sword achilles and infinite shield achilles are two separate beys. The other beys included are Super (chip unknown), ace (chip unknown), dragoon v, driger v, dead Hades and hell salamander. The random booster comes out Oct 24. Credit to this info goes to Zankye who just uploaded a video on it.
(Sep. 17, 2020 2:34 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]What about rock Leone?
It's not there I'm afraid
Dang, the second half of October, but it was expected. We gonna have a dry period then.
Layer wise atleast, it's a pretty decent rb compared to the last one which was abysmal
(Sep. 17, 2020 2:43 PM)Saishreyas.G Wrote: [ -> ]Layer wise atleast, it's a pretty decent rb compared to the last one which was abysmal
True, Dead Hades isn't bad, though Hell Salamander has had a few. The Infinites are a rip for those who wanted the Sword and Shield. Don't care about the old gen remakes. The Ace and Super could be cool.
Given the sort of gap where the disc should be in the Ace recolor from this RB, I assume the Ace recolor is coming with Wheel.
(Sep. 17, 2020 3:33 PM)JoMario67 Wrote: [ -> ]Given the sort of gap where the disc should be in the Ace recolor from this RB, I assume the Ace recolor is coming with Wheel.
Also, due to the orientation, it either has Diabolos 1, Dragon, or Dragon 2 as a chip. Super seems to be either Valkyrie or Satan.
Instead of throwing in Salamander, I think they should have done another Gatinko bey like Imperial Achilles or something like that. I’m hoping that we will get the Valkyrie or Lucifer chip with Super and something like Diabolos 1 with Ace.
Okay... At least a little better than the last RB...
The selection seems better than the last random booster at least. I guess more Plastic V remakes are cool, although I would have rather had trek replaced by a Metal Fight Remake and a Layer Base that hasn’t been rereleased yet or has had hardly any rereleases.
What are the pull rates for Achilles? Or does that still remain a mystery?
(Sep. 17, 2020 3:55 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]What are the pull rates for Achilles? Or does that still remain a mystery?
Never talked about, since it was just the picture from the World Spriggan box.
I saw a leaked pic.
Infinite Achilles (sword)
Infinite Achilles (shield) (black)
Super (or maybe First?) Satan (blue)
Ace Dragon (or Dragon II) (purple)
Hell Salamander (green)
Dead Hades (red)
Dragoon V (original color)
Driger V (yellow)
It is weird that there is another Dragoon V with its original color. Maybe there are some differences but the img was very unclear so that’s all I can tell.
(Sep. 17, 2020 6:19 PM)CrazyAries Wrote: [ -> ]I saw a leaked pic.
Infinite Achilles (sword)
Infinite Achilles (shield) (black)
Super (or maybe First?) Satan (blue)
Ace Dragon (or Dragon II) (purple)
Hell Salamander (green)
Dead Hades (red)
Dragoon V (original color)
Driger V (yellow)
It is weird that there is another Dragoon V with its original color. Maybe there are some differences but the img was very unclear so that’s all I can tell.
Can you post here?