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I noticed that although Hasbros Jormuntor J2 is quite an impressive layer, TTS Jormungand has been frowned upon for its burst resistance... but I think we should prolly take another look at TT Jormungand. Hopefully this test can prolly start some discussion.

I unfortunately own no Hasbro beys to compare it to, but I still want to test out TT Jormungand, cuz I feel that it may still have some use.

Jail Jormungand H Om
Vs
Victory Valkyrie K X

(20rounds, SF=Survival Finish, RO=Ring-Out,
BF=Burst Finish, Jormungand launched 1st,
Ties redone, Self KOs without Contact redone)

Matches:
1 Valkyrie (RO)
2 Jormungand (BF)
3 Valkyrie (BF)
4 Jormungand (SF)
5 Jormungand (SF)
6 Valkyrie (RO)
7 Jormungand (BF)
8 Jormungand (BF)
9 Valkyrie (RO)
10 Jormungand (RO)
11 Valkyrie (RO)
12 Jormungand (RO)
13 Jormungand (SF)
14 Valkyrie (RO)
15 Jormungand (SF)
16 Jormungand (SF)
17 Valkyrie (RO)
18 Jormungand (RO)
19 Jormungand (SF)
20 Jormungand (BR)

Results:
Jail Jormungand: 65% (6SF’s, 3RO’s 4BF’s)
Victory Valkyrie: 45% (6RO’s 1BF)

Final Thoughts:
This was Interesting to say the least...
TT Jormungand was doin pretty well!
4Bursts on Victory Valkyrie!! This was a violent test!  Here’s something I wanna point out:
I was using the Om from Dread Bahamut, instead of the Om from Naked Spriggan.
I noticed that DB’s Om has a stronger spring than NS’s Om, but it’s metal ball is not as free-spinning as NS’s Om, thus, its stamina was a weee bit lower, and it has a tendency to Self-KO quite a bit. But I concluded that its a
trade-off that’s worth taking, cuz that spring on DB’s Om was keeping Jormungand In one piece!  
Although TT Jormungand May not be as tight as Hasbruh jormuntor.. I have concluded, based on the tests I’ve done so far, that perhaps we should consider TT Jormungand to be useful... so far.  
I hope this test was informative, insightful, and useful!
Using Xtreme’ or Quick’ would be more accurate to what people actually use in BSC for Victory Valkyrie. That’s why Victory Valkyrie burst 4 times to Jail Jormugand.
(May. 10, 2020  9:13 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ]Using Xtreme’ would be more accurate to what people actually use in BSC for Victory Valkyrie. That’s why Victory Valkyrie burst 4 times to Jail Jormugand.

Yeah true... I’ll do another test with X’
Interesting, I was wondering when someone would do this. I'd like to see how well J2.H.Zt' (Defense) and J2.H.Kp' fare against V2.K.X'.
Jail Jormungand H Om
Vs
Victory Valkyrie K X’(Fresh)

(20rounds, SF=Survival Finish, RO=Ring-Out,
BF=Burst Finish, Jormungand launched 1st,
Ties redone, Self KOs without Contact redone)

Matches:
1 Jormungand (SF)
2 Jormungand (RO)
3 Valkyrie (BF)
4 Jormungand (SF)
5 Jormungand (BF!!)
6 Valkyrie (BF)
7 Jormungand (RO)
8 Valkyrie (RO)
9 Jormungand (SF)
10 Valkyrie (BF)
11 Valkyrie (RO)
12 Valkyrie (RO)
13 Jormungand (SF)
14 Valkyrie (BF)
15 Jormungand (SF)
16 Jormungand (RO)
17 Valkyrie (RO)
18 Valkyrie (RO)
19 Jormungand (SF)
20 Jormungand (RO)

Results:
Jail Jormungand: 55% (6SF’s 4RO’s 1BR)
Victory Valkyrie: 45% (5RO’s 4BF’s)

final thoughts:
X’ on Valkyrie made quite a difference, but still, Jormungand did well, it even got a burst!
(The fact that it’s able to burst Valkyrie on X is pretty gud, let alone X’!) but Jormungand still bursted too much... I’m thinking of slapping Kp’ on Jormungand to see what it can do...

Jail Jormungand H Kp’
Vs
Victory Valkyrie K X’(Fresh)

(20rounds, SF=Survival Finish, RO=Ring-Out,
BF=Burst Finish, Jormungand launched 1st,
Ties redone, Self KOs without Contact redone)

Matches:
1 Jormungand (SF)
2 Jormungand (SF)
3 Jormungand (SF)
4 Jormungand (RO)
5 Valkyrie (RO)
6 Jormungand (RO)
7 Jormungand (RO)
8 Jormungand (SF)
9 Valkyrie (BF)
10 Valkyrie (BF)
11 Valkyrie (RO)
12 Jormungand (SF)
13 Valkyrie (BF)
14 Valkyrie (RO)
15 Jormungand (SF)
16 Valkyrie (RO)
17 Jormungand (SF)
18 Valkyrie (BF)
19 Jormungand (RO)
20 Jormungand (SF)


Results:
Jail Jormungand: 60% (8SF’s 4RO’s)
Victory Valkyrie: 40% (4RO’s 4BF’s)

final thoughts:
I’m not surprised that Jormungand bursted as much as it did, even tho it had a dash driver. simple science equations can explain that...besides that, it took the hits well. Valkyrie is a attacking powerhouse! But if it doesn’t get those key hits in early, and knock J2 out the center, then it’ll simply lose its flower pattern as waste stamina.

Jail Jormungand H Zt’
Vs
Victory Valkyrie H Qc’

(20rounds, SF=Survival Finish, RO=Ring-Out,
BF=Burst Finish, Jormungand launched 1st,
Ties redone, Self KOs without Contact redone)

Matches:
1 Valkyrie (RO)
2 Jormungand (SF)
3 Jormungand (BF)
4 Jormungand (SF)
5 Jormungand (RO)
6 Valkyrie (RO)
7 Valkyrie (RO)
8 Valkyrie (BF)
9 Jormungand (SF)
10 Valkyrie (RO)
11 Valkyrie (BF)
12 Jormungand (SF)
13 Jormungand (RO)
14 Valkyrie (RO)
15 Valkyrie (RO)
16 Valkyrie (BF)
17 Valkyrie (BF)
18 Jormungand (SF)
19 Valkyrie (RO)
20 Valkyrie (RO)


Results:
Jail Jormungand: 40% (5SF’s 2RO’s 1BR)
Victory Valkyrie: 60% (8RO’s 4BR’s)

(May. 10, 2020  9:21 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting, I was wondering when someone would do this. I'd like to see how well J2.H.Zt' (Defense) and J2.H.Kp' fare against V2.K.X'.

Yeah... Zt’ didn’t do so well.. but it’s still worth giving a shot.