(Dec. 01, 2020 9:06 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:02 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Imagine being hit with the Do you believe in gravity then immediately getting D4C'd and your body particles rip apart or whatever then you can Dune em and suck em im with a whirlpool so you can use Za Warudo and land some good hits. Then you can just reset and do it all again. Eventually Beerus has to at least get knocked out. Not from physical exhaustion necessarily, but mental.
Nope thats ignoring an ability
Well then how do you propose D4C works? Also Beerus is one of a kind. Beerus can definitely move within stopped time, all of the hits from the stands wouldn’t hurt him in the slightest. Beerus can endure a lot, and the only thing that scares him is grandmaster Zeno.
Ur acting like Beerus is never gonna die. Before you said he can't die unless an omnipotent being kills him. Novel Kars is Omnipotent. I can name hundreds of reasons how Kars could kill Beerus.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:07 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:06 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Well then how do you propose D4C works? Also Beerus is one of a kind. Beerus can definitely move within stopped time, all of the hits from the stands wouldn’t hurt him in the slightest. Beerus can endure a lot, and the only thing that scares him is grandmaster Zeno.
[font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]D4C can use love train, make parallels universe, if you meet your copy your body atoms will like rip apart and stuff, he can also switch out things between various universes. Also its Ultimate so its cooler and prob more powerful maybe. This ain't enough?[/font]
[font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The first stuff have been shown on display, but the switching out various people form various universes thing was used in who shot Johnny Joestar. That why all the bystanders have a different account of what happened that contradicts each other, because they all saw what happened from their universe.[/font]
Beerus is a one of a kind(like the corpse parts). D4C is negated. Since when did Kars have love train? (Was it stated that D4C had the corpse parts). There isn’t anything that can be done to get rid of Beerus.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:10 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:06 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Well then how do you propose D4C works? Also Beerus is one of a kind. Beerus can definitely move within stopped time, all of the hits from the stands wouldn’t hurt him in the slightest. Beerus can endure a lot, and the only thing that scares him is grandmaster Zeno.
Ur acting like Beerus is never gonna die. Before you said he can't die unless an omnipotent being kills him. Novel Kars is Omnipotent. I can name hundreds of reasons how Kars could kill Beerus.
Novel Kars isn’t omnipotent. Be realistic.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:11 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:07 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ][font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]D4C can use love train, make parallels universe, if you meet your copy your body atoms will like rip apart and stuff, he can also switch out things between various universes. Also its Ultimate so its cooler and prob more powerful maybe. This ain't enough?[/font]
[font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The first stuff have been shown on display, but the switching out various people form various universes thing was used in who shot Johnny Joestar. That why all the bystanders have a different account of what happened that contradicts each other, because they all saw what happened from their universe.[/font]
Beerus is a one of a kind(like the corpse parts). D4C is negated. Since when did Kars have love train? (Was it stated that D4C had the corpse parts). There isn’t anything that can be done to get rid of Beerus.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:10 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]Ur acting like Beerus is never gonna die. Before you said he can't die unless an omnipotent being kills him. Novel Kars is Omnipotent. I can name hundreds of reasons how Kars could kill Beerus.
Novel Kars isn’t omnipotent. Be realistic.
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(Dec. 01, 2020 9:11 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:07 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ][font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]D4C can use love train, make parallels universe, if you meet your copy your body atoms will like rip apart and stuff, he can also switch out things between various universes. Also its Ultimate so its cooler and prob more powerful maybe. This ain't enough?[/font]
[font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The first stuff have been shown on display, but the switching out various people form various universes thing was used in who shot Johnny Joestar. That why all the bystanders have a different account of what happened that contradicts each other, because they all saw what happened from their universe.[/font]
Beerus is a one of a kind(like the corpse parts). D4C is negated. Since when did Kars have love train? (Was it stated that D4C had the corpse parts). There isn’t anything that can be done to get rid of Beerus.
Even without Love Train its still powerful. Also beating Beerus isn't just killing him or whatever, you can get him to just stop and forfeit. Beerus can endure alot sure, but alot isn't invincibility.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:13 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:11 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Beerus is a one of a kind(like the corpse parts). D4C is negated. Since when did Kars have love train? (Was it stated that D4C had the corpse parts). There isn’t anything that can be done to get rid of Beerus.
Even without Love Train its still powerful. Also beating Beerus isn't just killing him or whatever, you can get him to just stop and forfeit. Beerus can endure alot sure, but alot isn't invincibility.
Beerus is literally invincible, and the only way to kill him is too kill the supreme Kai. (Which would lead to another dimension not universe but dimension)
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:15 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:13 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Even without Love Train its still powerful. Also beating Beerus isn't just killing him or whatever, you can get him to just stop and forfeit. Beerus can endure alot sure, but alot isn't invincibility.
Beerus is literally invincible, and the only way to kill him is too kill the supreme Kai. (Which would lead to another dimension not universe but dimension)
you said invulnerable not invincible. Also if you just kill supreme Kai oh well for Beerus.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:11 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:07 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ][font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]D4C can use love train, make parallels universe, if you meet your copy your body atoms will like rip apart and stuff, he can also switch out things between various universes. Also its Ultimate so its cooler and prob more powerful maybe. This ain't enough?[/font]
[font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The first stuff have been shown on display, but the switching out various people form various universes thing was used in who shot Johnny Joestar. That why all the bystanders have a different account of what happened that contradicts each other, because they all saw what happened from their universe.[/font]
Beerus is a one of a kind(like the corpse parts). D4C is negated. Since when did Kars have love train? (Was it stated that D4C had the corpse parts). There isn’t anything that can be done to get rid of Beerus.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:10 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]Ur acting like Beerus is never gonna die. Before you said he can't die unless an omnipotent being kills him. Novel Kars is Omnipotent. I can name hundreds of reasons how Kars could kill Beerus.
Novel Kars isn’t omnipotent. Be realistic.
Omnipotent means no limit. Kars has infinte speed, strength, power, and has no weaknesses. Pretty sure thats what omnipotent means buddy.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:17 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:16 PM)Ryuga's Son Wrote: [ -> ]Goku is a god
He technically is.
I am writing a book, and in that there is a guy who is called The Sage of the Ten Dimensions, and he is stronger than goku (really hard work)
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:17 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:15 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Beerus is literally invincible, and the only way to kill him is too kill the supreme Kai. (Which would lead to another dimension not universe but dimension)
you said invulnerable not invincible. Also if you just kill supreme Kai oh well for Beerus.
Well, how would you reach Supreme Kai? Currently only people with instant transmission and Angels can meet Kais. I mixed up the meaning of invincible for invulnerable.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:18 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:17 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]Omnipotent means no limit. Kars has infinte speed, strength, power, and has no weaknesses. Pretty sure thats what omnipotent means buddy.
(of a deity) having unlimited power; able to do anything.
Well yeah, that is the meaning.
Beerus doesn't have unlimited power.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:17 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:11 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Beerus is a one of a kind(like the corpse parts). D4C is negated. Since when did Kars have love train? (Was it stated that D4C had the corpse parts). There isn’t anything that can be done to get rid of Beerus.
Novel Kars isn’t omnipotent. Be realistic.
Omnipotent means no limit. Kars has infinte speed, strength, power, and has no weaknesses. Pretty sure thats what omnipotent means buddy.
Kars definitely has a limit. There’s nothing in his feats showing he’s omnipotent, unlike HAD (who’s omnipotent to a certain degree)
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:22 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:17 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]Omnipotent means no limit. Kars has infinte speed, strength, power, and has no weaknesses. Pretty sure thats what omnipotent means buddy.
Kars definitely has a limit. There’s nothing in his feats showing he’s omnipotent, unlike HAD (who’s omnipotent to a certain degree)
Ya normal Kars. But not Novel Kars. His best bet can be that he can't die plus he's immune to space also. And i'm certain with the infinite godly powers that he has he can easily counter Hakai which is Beerus' strongest move.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:25 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:22 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Kars definitely has a limit. There’s nothing in his feats showing he’s omnipotent, unlike HAD (who’s omnipotent to a certain degree)
Ya normal Kars. But not Novel Kars. His best bet can be that he can't die plus he's immune to space also. And i'm certain with the infinite godly powers that he has he can easily counter Hakai which is Beerus' strongest move.
Surviving space doesn’t mean you are omnipotent. Has he erased a universe out of exsistance? No. What has he done to prove he is all powerful? Being immortal doesn’t make you immortal.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:20 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:17 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]you said invulnerable not invincible. Also if you just kill supreme Kai oh well for Beerus.
Well, how would you reach Supreme Kai? Currently only people with instant transmission and Angels can meet Kais. I mixed up the meaning of invincible for invulnerable.
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Instant Transmission ([font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]瞬しゅん間かん移い動どう[/font] [i]Shunkan Idō[/i], lit. "Instantaneous Movement", also translated as "Teleportation") is a technique for traveling long distances instantly. It was taught to Goku when he was on Planet Yardrat after his deadly battle with Frieza.[/font]
Ah yes a super hard challenge for JoJo a character definetly
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]In the movies, the process is further elaborated on as entering a Teleportation Zone to transmit, where a user uses the zone as a waypoint to lock onto the desired ki signature and exit at that destination. Goku describes it as more complicated than traditional teleportation, as it consists of merging one's energy and demolecularizing their atoms in order to enter and transport onself through the Teleportation Zone to begin with, then reassembling in the area where the locked-on signature resides.[/font]
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[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]as it consists of merging one's energy and demolecularizing their atoms in order to enter and transport onself through the Teleportation Zone to begin with, then reassembling in the area where the locked-on signature resides.[/font]
Using multiple abilities can definetly achieve a state of demolecularizing for sure (Love Train just straight up does tha but thats besides the topic) and obviously reassembling atoms? bruh.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:22 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:17 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]Omnipotent means no limit. Kars has infinte speed, strength, power, and has no weaknesses. Pretty sure thats what omnipotent means buddy.
Kars definitely has a limit. There’s nothing in his feats showing he’s omnipotent, unlike HAD (who’s omnipotent to a certain degree)
Immortality: Kars is invincible, immortal, and nigh indestructible. He does not age, is self-sustaining, and is described as more beautiful than a Greek sculpture. Additionally, his previous weakness to UV light is completely negated, along with his weakness to Hamon.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:26 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:20 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Well, how would you reach Supreme Kai? Currently only people with instant transmission and Angels can meet Kais. I mixed up the meaning of invincible for invulnerable.
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Instant Transmission ([font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]瞬しゅん間かん移い動どう[/font] [i]Shunkan Idō[/i], lit. "Instantaneous Movement", also translated as "Teleportation") is a technique for traveling long distances instantly. It was taught to Goku when he was on Planet Yardrat after his deadly battle with Frieza.[/font]
Ah yes a super hard challenge for JoJo a character definetly
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]In the movies, the process is further elaborated on as entering a Teleportation Zone to transmit, where a user uses the zone as a waypoint to lock onto the desired ki signature and exit at that destination. Goku describes it as more complicated than traditional teleportation, as it consists of merging one's energy and demolecularizing their atoms in order to enter and transport onself through the Teleportation Zone to begin with, then reassembling in the area where the locked-on signature resides.[/font]
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[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]as it consists of merging one's energy and demolecularizing their atoms in order to enter and transport onself through the Teleportation Zone to begin with, then reassembling in the area where the locked-on signature resides.[/font]
Using multiple abilities can definetly achieve a state of demolecularizing for sure (Love Train just straight up does tha but thats besides the topic) and obviously reassembling atoms? bruh.
You are right. It would be a hard thing for a Jojo’s character to do indeed. Also, don’t you think it’s unfair for Supreme Kai to be involved in this? Also Jojo!s characters don’t have ki
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:28 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:26 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Instant Transmission ([font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]瞬しゅん間かん移い動どう[/font] [i]Shunkan Idō[/i], lit. "Instantaneous Movement", also translated as "Teleportation") is a technique for traveling long distances instantly. It was taught to Goku when he was on Planet Yardrat after his deadly battle with Frieza.[/font]
Ah yes a super hard challenge for JoJo a character definetly
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]In the movies, the process is further elaborated on as entering a Teleportation Zone to transmit, where a user uses the zone as a waypoint to lock onto the desired ki signature and exit at that destination. Goku describes it as more complicated than traditional teleportation, as it consists of merging one's energy and demolecularizing their atoms in order to enter and transport onself through the Teleportation Zone to begin with, then reassembling in the area where the locked-on signature resides.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]as it consists of merging one's energy and demolecularizing their atoms in order to enter and transport onself through the Teleportation Zone to begin with, then reassembling in the area where the locked-on signature resides.[/font]
Using multiple abilities can definetly achieve a state of demolecularizing for sure (Love Train just straight up does tha but thats besides the topic) and obviously reassembling atoms? bruh.
You are right. It would be a hard thing for a Jojo’s character to do indeed. Also, don’t you think it’s unfair for Supreme Kai to be involved in this?
You said killing supreme kai lets you kill Beerus. He is related. Obviously it isn't directly instant transmission but using various abilities combined you should be able to reach a state of demolecurization and being able to just reassemble.
Imagine using MiH, Bites The Dust, and D4C all at once. Bites The Dust itself showed you traveling through like space time and all that. Imagine in that state trying to Reset the universe and also go into a different dimension, while your body is transferring back in time? I'm sure the atoms wouldn't like that much.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:30 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:28 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]You are right. It would be a hard thing for a Jojo’s character to do indeed. Also, don’t you think it’s unfair for Supreme Kai to be involved in this?
You said killing supreme kai lets you kill Beerus. He is related. Obviously it isn't directly instant transmission but using various abilities combined you should be able to reach a state of demolecurization and being able to just reassemble.
Goku says that IT is a more complicated than traditional teleportation, this is because it requires ki energy which is something that Kars has no knowledge of, so how would he reach there and how would he learn to use it so fast?
All of Novel Kars' feats:
Kars takes over Killer Queen (which can time travel now) he causes explosions to run time backwards until it’s back to only “one time the universe has repeated” which is the SBR world. That’s how Jorge and Jonathan end up in the SBR world.
The reason Kars does the actions that he does is because he has something close to “respect” for human bravery and ambition.
Killer Queen stops obeying Kira and follows Kars.
He Killed the Immortal Heaven Ascension Dio.
Found Heaven using Made in heaven Requiem. ( Kars found his way into Heaven (learned the words) after “remembering” about Stands and seeing Made in Heaven at work but he doesn’t do the ritual Pucci did to get MIH.) and also MIHR can do the same universal reboot that Enrico Pucci can exept it doesn't affect only 1 universe but multiple universes at the same time.
Attained every single stand by the end of the novel.
Universal level aliens invade Earth and Kars helps Jonathan Joestar fight them.
Survived 37+ universal destructions all at one time.
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:34 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]All of Novel Kars' feats:
Kars takes over Killer Queen (which can time travel now) he causes explosions to run time backwards until it’s back to only “one time the universe has repeated” which is the SBR world. That’s how Jorge and Jonathan end up in the SBR world.
The reason Kars does the actions that he does is because he has something close to “respect” for human bravery and ambition.
Killer Queen stops obeying Kira and follows Kars.
He Killed the Immortal Heaven Ascension Dio.
Found Heaven using Made in heaven Requiem. ( Kars found his way into Heaven (learned the words) after “remembering” about Stands and seeing Made in Heaven at work but he doesn’t do the ritual Pucci did to get MIH.) and also MIHR can do the same universal reboot that Enrico Pucci can exept it doesn't affect only 1 universe but multiple universes at the same time.
Attained every single stand by the end of the novel.
Universal level aliens invade Earth and Kars helps Jonathan Joestar fight them.
Survived 37+ universal destructions all at one time.
So what? He’s strong, but not omnipotent (also how the hell did you manage to decide Jorge Jostar)
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:35 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:32 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Goku says that IT is a more complicated than traditional teleportation, this is because it requires ki energy which is something that Kars has no knowledge of, so how would he reach there and how would he learn to use it so fast?
KI Energy is the unseen life force in your body and everywhere. It is a universal energy that penetrates everywhere uniting all the manifestations of the universe, visible or invisible
Ki energy is in everything. Kars would eventually find out about Ki, its not impossible considering 2 Universes are colliding in this hypothetical battle. And Kars is, well, Kars. Invincible, Immortal, pretty much perfect, he could preform it when ease.
He has to harness Ki, also how would he do it in the heat of battle?
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:35 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:34 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]All of Novel Kars' feats:
Kars takes over Killer Queen (which can time travel now) he causes explosions to run time backwards until it’s back to only “one time the universe has repeated” which is the SBR world. That’s how Jorge and Jonathan end up in the SBR world.
The reason Kars does the actions that he does is because he has something close to “respect” for human bravery and ambition.
Killer Queen stops obeying Kira and follows Kars.
He Killed the Immortal Heaven Ascension Dio.
Found Heaven using Made in heaven Requiem. ( Kars found his way into Heaven (learned the words) after “remembering” about Stands and seeing Made in Heaven at work but he doesn’t do the ritual Pucci did to get MIH.) and also MIHR can do the same universal reboot that Enrico Pucci can exept it doesn't affect only 1 universe but multiple universes at the same time.
Attained every single stand by the end of the novel.
Universal level aliens invade Earth and Kars helps Jonathan Joestar fight them.
Survived 37+ universal destructions all at one time.
So what? He’s strong, but not omnipotent (also how the hell did you manage to decide Jorge Jostar)
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:35 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]KI Energy is the unseen life force in your body and everywhere. It is a universal energy that penetrates everywhere uniting all the manifestations of the universe, visible or invisible
Ki energy is in everything. Kars would eventually find out about Ki, its not impossible considering 2 Universes are colliding in this hypothetical battle. And Kars is, well, Kars. Invincible, Immortal, pretty much perfect, he could preform it when ease.
He has to harness Ki, also how would he do it in the heat of battle?
Bro he's Kars. perfect in anyway. What can he not do. Also, he fits the definition of omnipotent very well actually.
Like, Kars can everything all at once
(of a deity) having unlimited power; able to do anything
(Dec. 01, 2020 9:39 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2020 9:35 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]So what? He’s strong, but not omnipotent (also how the hell did you manage to decide Jorge Jostar)
He has to harness Ki, also how would he do it in the heat of battle?
Bro he's Kars. perfect in anyway. What can he not do. Also, he fits the definition of omnipotent very well actually.
Like, Kars can everything all at once
Proof that he can destroy a Galaxy at will?