World Beyblade Organization by Fighting Spirits Inc.

(Nov. 29, 2019  10:35 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov. 29, 2019  8:23 PM)bekfastblader Wrote: [ -> ]thanks! Would Judgement be a consideration as well?

Maybe. You could try it.

(Nov. 30, 2019  4:24 PM)Igunisshon Wrote: [ -> ]thanks for this.
totally tanked my tourney today LOL!
my nephew trolled me and it turns out they don’t allow any GT parts at all and no repeat of any parts in the deck (except God Chip) so i had to randomly used what i had that was allowed.

So I updated my collection today to:
1. Cho-Z Achilles 00 Dimension (Asian Version)
2. Erase Fanfir Sting Trick10
3. Cosmos Dragon Vanguard Revolve Retsu
4. *Prime Apocalypse 0Dagger Ultimate Reboot'
5. **Regalia Genesis Hybrid
6. **Imperial Dragon Ignition Dash
7. *Dead Phoenix 0 Atomic
8. Driver: Destroy
9. *Zwei Longinus Drake Spiral' Metsu
10. Dread Bahamut 7Wall Orbit Metal Gen  
11. *Lord Spriggan Blitz Dimension'
12. Slash Dragon 00 Octa Metsu
13. Union Achilles Convert Xtend+ Retsu
14. Bloody Longinus 1' Dagger Cycle
15. Crash Ragnaruk 5Cross Volcanic'
16. Orb Eigis Outer Quest
17. Cho-Z Spriggan 0 Wall Zeta’
18. Revive Phoenix 10 Friction
19. Bushin Ashura Hurricane Keep Ten

Came up with these builds with non GT and no repeat parts:
Perfect Phoenix Outer Octa
Cho-Z Spriggan 00 Cross Atomic
Cho-Z Achilles 0 Wall Xtend+

Thoughts?

(Nov. 30, 2019  4:24 PM)Igunisshon Wrote: [ -> ]thanks for this.
totally tanked my tourney today LOL!
my nephew trolled me and it turns out they don’t allow any GT parts at all and no repeat of any parts in the deck (except God Chip) so i had to randomly used what i had that was allowed.

So I updated my collection today to:
1. Cho-Z Achilles 00 Dimension (Asian Version)
2. Erase Fanfir Sting Trick10
3. Cosmos Dragon Vanguard Revolve Retsu
4. *Prime Apocalypse 0Dagger Ultimate Reboot'
5. **Regalia Genesis Hybrid
6. **Imperial Dragon Ignition Dash
7. *Dead Phoenix 0 Atomic
8. Driver: Destroy
9. *Zwei Longinus Drake Spiral' Metsu
10. Dread Bahamut 7Wall Orbit Metal Gen  
11. *Lord Spriggan Blitz Dimension'
12. Slash Dragon 00 Octa Metsu
13. Union Achilles Convert Xtend+ Retsu
14. Bloody Longinus 1' Dagger Cycle
15. Crash Ragnaruk 5Cross Volcanic'
16. Orb Eigis Outer Quest
17. Cho-Z Spriggan 0 Wall Zeta’
18. Revive Phoenix 10 Friction
19. Bushin Ashura Hurricane Keep Ten

Came up with these builds with non GT and no repeat parts:
Perfect Phoenix Outer Octa
Cho-Z Spriggan 00 Cross Atomic
Cho-Z Achilles 0 Wall Xtend+

Thoughts?

(Nov. 29, 2019  4:26 AM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov. 29, 2019  3:22 AM)Igunisshon Wrote: [ -> ]I'm from Malaysia and some social tournaments may ban it.
Sorry could you help me build a deck that you would be confident with, without the Electro drivers? Or what you suggested is what I should go for?

I might get a Revive Phoenix to build a Perfect Phoenix. Thoughts on what should go with it?

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I'm from Malaysia and some social tournaments may ban it.
Sorry could you help me build a deck that you would be confident with, without the Electro drivers? Or what you suggested is what I should go for?

I might get a Revive Phoenix to build a Perfect Phoenix. Thoughts on what should go with it?

Replace LS’s driver with Orbit Metal and instead of prime Apocalypse combo  make the combo Perfect Phoenix 00Cross Xtend+. It’s a really good combo. I’d recommend getting at least either glaive, proof, or cross for the frame.

(Nov. 30, 2019  9:42 PM)Rouzuke Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov. 30, 2019  4:24 PM)Igunisshon Wrote: [ -> ]thanks for this.
totally tanked my tourney today LOL!
my nephew trolled me and it turns out they don’t allow any GT parts at all and no repeat of any parts in the deck (except God Chip) so i had to randomly used what i had that was allowed.

So I updated my collection today to:
1. Cho-Z Achilles 00 Dimension (Asian Version)
2. Erase Fanfir Sting Trick10
3. Cosmos Dragon Vanguard Revolve Retsu
4. *Prime Apocalypse 0Dagger Ultimate Reboot'
5. **Regalia Genesis Hybrid
6. **Imperial Dragon Ignition Dash
7. *Dead Phoenix 0 Atomic
8. Driver: Destroy
9. *Zwei Longinus Drake Spiral' Metsu
10. Dread Bahamut 7Wall Orbit Metal Gen  
11. *Lord Spriggan Blitz Dimension'
12. Slash Dragon 00 Octa Metsu
13. Union Achilles Convert Xtend+ Retsu
14. Bloody Longinus 1' Dagger Cycle
15. Crash Ragnaruk 5Cross Volcanic'
16. Orb Eigis Outer Quest
17. Cho-Z Spriggan 0 Wall Zeta’
18. Revive Phoenix 10 Friction
19. Bushin Ashura Hurricane Keep Ten

Came up with these builds with non GT and no repeat parts:
Perfect Phoenix Outer Octa
Cho-Z Spriggan 00 Cross Atomic
Cho-Z Achilles 0 Wall Xtend+

Thoughts?

You can change to the following (still non-GT):

Perfect Phoenix Outer Xtend+ (this is quite a beastly combo for a long time already)

Cho-Z Spriggan  00 Cross Atomic (replace with Sting if you can use GT parts, or get a release that has Bearing so you can use 00 Wall, Blitz, or Vanguard)

Cho-Z Achilles 0 Dagger Ultimate Reboot'/Octa (if you can get a release that has Expand or Bump Frame for more heft, as well as 8' and Xtreme' for the fast but consistent attacks, it'd be a swell smash attacker)

(Dec. 01, 2019  1:16 AM)DreadAqua Wrote: [ -> ]Hi! I want to make a great combo for upcoming tournaments! I would like to use these parts for combos!

Layer Bases:
Judgement
Lord
Wizard
Union
Imperial
Dread
Knockout
Tact
Zwei

Weights:
Gen
Go
Metsu
Retsu
Sen
Sou
Ten
Zan

GT Chips:
Valkyrie
Spriggan
Odin
Fafnir
Dragon V2
Dragon
Bahamut
Ashura
Achilles

Layers:
Prime Apocalypse
Regalia Genesis
Cho Z Valkyrie
Cho Z Achilles
Perfect Phoenix
Geist Fafnir
Hell Salamander

Disks:
00
0
1
1'
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
8'
9
10
11
12
13
Nine
Bumper
Down
Outer
Infinity
Upper
Yell
Verticle
Quarter
Triple
Jerk
Knuckle
Spread
Heavy
Armed
Wing
Force
Ring
Boost
Oval
Gravity
Limited
Central
Aero
Aero'
Magnum
Polish
Zenith
Hurricane
Sting
Ratchet
Blitz
Drake
Vanguard
Around

Drivers:
Volcanic'
Destroy'
Accel'
Ultimate Reboot'
Hybrid
Power
Xtreme'
Quick'
Ignition'
Bearing
Revolve
Eternal
Atomic
Orbit
Orbit Metal
Octa
Rise
Xtend+

A combo that I think is good right now is Judgement Valkyrie Imperial or Judgement Valkyrie Blitz Ultimate Reboot'. Please inform me if there are any other good combos that I can make using these parts!

(Dec. 01, 2019  1:16 AM)DreadAqua Wrote: [ -> ]Hi! I want to make a great combo for upcoming tournaments! I would like to use these parts for combos!

Layer Bases:
Judgement
Lord
Wizard
Union
Imperial
Dread
Knockout
Tact
Zwei

Weights:
Gen
Go
Metsu
Retsu
Sen
Sou
Ten
Zan

GT Chips:
Valkyrie
Spriggan
Odin
Fafnir
Dragon V2
Dragon
Bahamut
Ashura
Achilles

Layers:
Prime Apocalypse
Regalia Genesis
Cho Z Valkyrie
Cho Z Achilles
Perfect Phoenix
Geist Fafnir
Hell Salamander

Disks:
00
0
1
1'
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
8'
9
10
11
12
13
Nine
Bumper
Down
Outer
Infinity
Upper
Yell
Verticle
Quarter
Triple
Jerk
Knuckle
Spread
Heavy
Armed
Wing
Force
Ring
Boost
Oval
Gravity
Limited
Central
Aero
Aero'
Magnum
Polish
Zenith
Hurricane
Sting
Ratchet
Blitz
Drake
Vanguard
Around

Drivers:
Volcanic'
Destroy'
Accel'
Ultimate Reboot'
Hybrid
Power
Xtreme'
Quick'
Ignition'
Bearing
Revolve
Eternal
Atomic
Orbit
Orbit Metal
Octa
Rise
Xtend+

A combo that I think is good right now is Judgement Valkyrie Imperial or Judgement Valkyrie Blitz Ultimate Reboot'. Please inform me if there are any other good combos that I can make using these parts!

(Dec. 02, 2019  1:44 AM)YishYash Wrote: [ -> ]I also got the GT Customize set.
Drain Fafnir x2 TT
Maximum Garuda Hasbro
Deep Chaos TT
Arc Bahamut TT
Rock Valkyrie Sen
Kreis Satan Hasbro
Bushin Ashura 10
Kraken k4
Judgement Joker Zan
Genesis Valtryek Hasbro
Winning Valkyrie TT
Boom Khalazar Hasbro
Luinor L3 TT

Discs

8 x2
2 x2
Polish
0
00
7 x2
1
5
4
Hurricane
12

Drivers

Nothing TT
Reboot Hasbro
Zephyr TT
Liner Hasbro
Keep Hasbro
Accel x2 Hasbro
Gyro Hasbro
Unite TT
Xtreme TT
Loop Hasbro
Destroy TT
Volcanic TT
Atomic TT
Hunter Hasbro
Trick TT
Spiral TT
Impact TT
Flugel Hasbro
Fusion Hasbro
Bearing TT
Eternal TT
Edge Hasbro

Frames
Meteor
Star
Turn
Vortex
Flow
Glaive
Upper
Bump

(Dec. 02, 2019  2:42 AM)DreadAqua Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 02, 2019  1:44 AM)YishYash Wrote: [ -> ]I also got the GT Customize set.
Drain Fafnir x2 TT
Maximum Garuda Hasbro
Deep Chaos TT
Arc Bahamut TT
Rock Valkyrie Sen
Kreis Satan Hasbro
Bushin Ashura 10
Kraken k4
Judgement Joker Zan
Genesis Valtryek Hasbro
Winning Valkyrie TT
Boom Khalazar Hasbro
Luinor L3 TT

Discs

8 x2
2 x2
Polish
0
00
7 x2
1
5
4
Hurricane
12

Drivers

Nothing TT
Reboot Hasbro
Zephyr TT
Liner Hasbro
Keep Hasbro
Accel x2 Hasbro
Gyro Hasbro
Unite TT
Xtreme TT
Loop Hasbro
Destroy TT
Volcanic TT
Atomic TT
Hunter Hasbro
Trick TT
Spiral TT
Impact TT
Flugel Hasbro
Fusion Hasbro
Bearing TT
Eternal TT
Edge Hasbro

Frames
Meteor
Star
Turn
Vortex
Flow
Glaive
Upper
Bump

Here are some combos that I recommend:
Judgement Valkyrie 00Bump Destroy Zan
Drain Fafnir 8 Flow Bearing

(Dec. 02, 2019  2:50 AM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 02, 2019  2:42 AM)DreadAqua Wrote: [ -> ]Here are some combos that I recommend:
Judgement Valkyrie 00Bump Destroy Zan
Drain Fafnir 8 Flow Bearing

Why Drain Fafnir, 8 and flow? Those aren’t competitive. Prime Apocalypse with 0,glaive, and then Bearing would be better.

(Dec. 02, 2019  1:27 AM)FlameDan Wrote: [ -> ]I just made a combo that I like a lot if anyone  wants it here it is
cho z valkery
nine
cross
accel dash

(Dec. 01, 2019  6:49 PM)Igunisshon Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov. 29, 2019  4:26 AM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ]Replace LS’s driver with Orbit Metal and instead of prime Apocalypse combo  make the combo Perfect Phoenix 00Cross Xtend+. It’s a really good combo. I’d recommend getting at least either glaive, proof, or cross for the frame.

(Nov. 30, 2019  9:42 PM)Rouzuke Wrote: [ -> ]You can change to the following (still non-GT):

Perfect Phoenix Outer Xtend+ (this is quite a beastly combo for a long time already)

Cho-Z Spriggan  00 Cross Atomic (replace with Sting if you can use GT parts, or get a release that has Bearing so you can use 00 Wall, Blitz, or Vanguard)

Cho-Z Achilles 0 Dagger Ultimate Reboot'/Octa (if you can get a release that has Expand or Bump Frame for more heft, as well as 8' and Xtreme' for the fast but consistent attacks, it'd be a swell smash attacker)

Thanks for this. With the deck format, I struggle to beat the Perfect Phoenix Outer Xtend+ combo.
Any ideas on this with just using Cho-Z parts?

1. Ace Dragon Sting Charge Zan
   
2. Cho-Z Valkyrie Z Ev
   
3. Slash Valkyrie Blitz Power Retsu
   
4. Shelter Regulus 8'Bump Destroy'
   

(Dec. 01, 2019  1:16 AM)DreadAqua Wrote: [ -> ]Hi! I want to make a great combo for upcoming tournaments! I would like to use these parts for combos!

Layer Bases:
Judgement
Lord
Wizard
Union
Imperial
Dread
Knockout
Tact
Zwei

Weights:
Gen
Go
Metsu
Retsu
Sen
Sou
Ten
Zan

GT Chips:
Valkyrie
Spriggan
Odin
Fafnir
Dragon V2
Dragon
Bahamut
Ashura
Achilles

Layers:
Prime Apocalypse
Regalia Genesis
Cho Z Valkyrie
Cho Z Achilles
Perfect Phoenix
Geist Fafnir
Hell Salamander

Disks:
00
0
1
1'
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
8'
9
10
11
12
13
Nine
Bumper
Down
Outer
Infinity
Upper
Yell
Verticle
Quarter
Triple
Jerk
Knuckle
Spread
Heavy
Armed
Wing
Force
Ring
Boost
Oval
Gravity
Limited
Central
Aero
Aero'
Magnum
Polish
Zenith
Hurricane
Sting
Ratchet
Blitz
Drake
Vanguard
Around

Drivers:
Volcanic'
Destroy'
Accel'
Ultimate Reboot'
Hybrid
Power
Xtreme'
Quick'
Ignition'
Bearing
Revolve
Eternal
Atomic
Orbit
Orbit Metal
Octa
Rise
Xtend+

A combo that I think is good right now is Judgement Valkyrie Imperial or Judgement Valkyrie Blitz Ultimate Reboot'. Please inform me if there are any other good combos that I can make using these parts!

(Dec. 03, 2019  11:07 AM)Igunisshon Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 01, 2019  6:49 PM)Igunisshon Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for this. With the deck format, I struggle to beat the Perfect Phoenix Outer Xtend+ combo.
Any ideas on this with just using Cho-Z parts?

Hi guys,
I've added these and some parts to my collection: 

1. Ace Dragon Sting Charge Zan
   
2. Cho-Z Valkyrie Z Ev
   
3. Slash Valkyrie Blitz Power Retsu
   
4. Shelter Regulus 8'Bump Destroy'
   

Additional parts I own:-
Frames: Proof, Glaive, Meteor, Vortex, Bump
Drivers: Bearing, Destroy

Am looking for comments to update my combos. Hoping to build a strong deck with no repeat parts

Combos without GT parts:
Perfect Phoenix Outer Xtend+ (I need to know how to beat this!)

Cho-Z Spriggan 00 Cross Atomic / 00Wall Bearing 
Cho-Z Achilles 0 Bump Octa (currently searching for Xtreme' so that i can pair it with my 8')

Combo with GT parts:
Zwei Bahamut Blitz Ultimate Reboot’

Prime Apocalypse Ignition' / Prime Apocalypse 7 Proof Ultimate Reboot' 
Lord Spriggan Sting Xtend+  / Lord Spriggan 5 Glaive Bearing / Lord Spriggan 5 Cross Xtend+
Regalia Genesis Sting Bearing??

Any comments are welcome.

(Nov. 29, 2019  6:33 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov. 29, 2019  5:33 PM)Igunisshon Wrote: [ -> ]
Just found out we cannot use GT layers in my tournament tomorrow. Only Cho-Z and previous but we can use GT parts.
Help on deck recommendations with what I have please and if i get the Cho-Z B-128 Customise set before the tournament to give me some more options. I'm guessing the Cho-Z Achilles is going to come into play. Please help.

Apologies. Noob here

Well in that case keep the perfect phoenix combo, but for the other combos:

Cho-Z Achilles blitz ultimate reboot’

Spriggan Requiem Sting Atomic

(Dec. 03, 2019  6:54 PM)Rouzuke Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 03, 2019  11:07 AM)Igunisshon Wrote: [ -> ]Hi guys,
I've added these and some parts to my collection: 

1. Ace Dragon Sting Charge Zan
   
2. Cho-Z Valkyrie Z Ev
   
3. Slash Valkyrie Blitz Power Retsu
   
4. Shelter Regulus 8'Bump Destroy'
   

Additional parts I own:-
Frames: Proof, Glaive, Meteor, Vortex, Bump
Drivers: Bearing, Destroy

Am looking for comments to update my combos. Hoping to build a strong deck with no repeat parts

Combos without GT parts:
Perfect Phoenix Outer Xtend+ (I need to know how to beat this!)

Cho-Z Spriggan 00 Cross Atomic / 00Wall Bearing 
Cho-Z Achilles 0 Bump Octa (currently searching for Xtreme' so that i can pair it with my 8')

Combo with GT parts:
Zwei Bahamut Blitz Ultimate Reboot’

Prime Apocalypse Ignition' / Prime Apocalypse 7 Proof Ultimate Reboot' 
Lord Spriggan Sting Xtend+  / Lord Spriggan 5 Glaive Bearing / Lord Spriggan 5 Cross Xtend+
Regalia Genesis Sting Bearing??

Any comments are welcome.

Mainly pP.Outer.Xt+ can be KO'd by heavy Judgment and Zwei combos on rubber Dash Drivers. It is almost close to impossible to Burst pP unless the Armor is too tight that it takes the Core with it with every click.

Regalia Genesis on Br will never end well. Remember that it will have a higher Burst rate contrary the Infinite Lock gimmick if on a weak-springed Driver. I really don't have much testing with it, but I currently use Regalia Genesis.St/Bl.Xt+


Your Prime Apocalypse combos are good enough, though I find czV a better match on my Ig'.

Lord Spriggan would benefit Br in this (as long as the Burst resistor nubs are pristine or locks quite good) on Bl. Or at least that worked for me.

(Dec. 03, 2019  7:16 PM)Igunisshon Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov. 29, 2019  6:33 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ]Well in that case keep the perfect phoenix combo, but for the other combos:

Cho-Z Achilles blitz ultimate reboot’

Spriggan Requiem Sting Atomic

(Dec. 03, 2019  6:54 PM)Rouzuke Wrote: [ -> ]Mainly pP.Outer.Xt+ can be KO'd by heavy Judgment and Zwei combos on rubber Dash Drivers. It is almost close to impossible to Burst pP unless the Armor is too tight that it takes the Core with it with every click.

Regalia Genesis on Br will never end well. Remember that it will have a higher Burst rate contrary the Infinite Lock gimmick if on a weak-springed Driver. I really don't have much testing with it, but I currently use Regalia Genesis.St/Bl.Xt+


Your Prime Apocalypse combos are good enough, though I find czV a better match on my Ig'.

Lord Spriggan would benefit Br in this (as long as the Burst resistor nubs are pristine or locks quite good) on Bl. Or at least that worked for me.

Thanks!

Any comments on my non GT deck apart from pP?
Pointers on Slash Valkyrie and Ace Dragon combos please?

(Dec. 04, 2019  1:45 AM)DreadAqua Wrote: [ -> ]Hi I just got the bey Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Rise and I would like to make a good spin steal combo that has the potential to win against some competetive combos. My best shot at a combo is Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Bearing Gen.

(Dec. 04, 2019  1:45 AM)DreadAqua Wrote: [ -> ]Hi I just got the bey Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Rise and I would like to make a good spin steal combo that has the potential to win against some competetive combos. My best shot at a combo is Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Bearing Gen.

(Dec. 04, 2019  1:52 AM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 04, 2019  1:45 AM)DreadAqua Wrote: [ -> ]Hi I just got the bey Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Rise and I would like to make a good spin steal combo that has the potential to win against some competetive combos. My best shot at a combo is Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Bearing Gen.

I probably wouldn’t use Bearing, even on gen. Try Wizard Longinus 00cross Xtend+ Zan

(Dec. 04, 2019  3:29 AM)RED NINJA 0829 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 04, 2019  1:45 AM)DreadAqua Wrote: [ -> ]Hi I just got the bey Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Rise and I would like to make a good spin steal combo that has the potential to win against some competetive combos. My best shot at a combo is Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Bearing Gen.

My friend Overhauled uses 00Expand Destroy'

(Dec. 04, 2019  4:46 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 04, 2019  1:52 AM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ]I probably wouldn’t use Bearing, even on gen. Try Wizard Longinus 00cross Xtend+ Zan

Retsu might also work as the hexagons should align with the rubber contact points. I use Wizard Bahamut.Ratchet.Bearing Gen and Wizard Fafnir.Zenith.Bearing Retsu

WB.Rt.Br Gen is only good for pure spin stealing but can easily be KO'd by opposite spin (Judgment/Lord/Imperial) and would Burst from same spin like knife on butter (Zwei/Lord)

WF.Z.Br Retsu is similar to above, except that it can hold its ground fairly against opposite spin.

(Dec. 04, 2019  3:29 AM)RED NINJA 0829 Wrote: [ -> ]My friend Overhauled uses 00Expand Destroy'

It might work better with 00Glaive/Cross.Destroy' or Hurricane.Destroy' (which I use with Hell Salamander right now