(Dec. 25, 2020 12:09 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 24, 2020 10:20 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]This is a hate thread. Difference between liking a character the least and hating them.
To be honest he most likely did mean hate but since you questioned him on it he seemingly reworded it to make you feel better.
He didn't reword it to make Admiral feel better. Jupiter said Valt, Admiral asked for a reason, Jupiter said that he still likes Valt just the least out of the characters. Obviously this is a hate thread for characters you actually hate so Admiral pointed that out.
Asking for a reason shouldn't make you feel threatened and need to change your wording. I like Dante, so if you say he sucks I would like a reason to see a different perspective cause I like the character.
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:09 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 24, 2020 10:20 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]This is a hate thread. Difference between liking a character the least and hating them.
To be honest he most likely did mean hate but since you questioned him on it he seemingly reworded it to make you feel better.
I was originally going to put hate but didn’t want to cause a big argument.
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:02 AM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 24, 2020 11:58 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Note I’m not a Lodin hater but if I were to come up with a logical explanation I would say that we don’t get enough of him to like him. In the anime he’s there for 1 ark and that to for like half of it. Also his back story is kind of weird (which isn’t really a reason to dislike him)
do u hate aiga?
Aiga my favorite burst character.
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:11 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 25, 2020 12:09 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]To be honest he most likely did mean hate but since you questioned him on it he seemingly reworded it to make you feel better.
He didn't reword it to make Admiral feel better. Jupiter said Valt, Admiral asked for a reason, Jupiter said that he still likes Valt just the least out of the characters. Obviously this is a hate thread for characters you actually hate so Admiral pointed that out.
Asking for a reason shouldn't make you feel threatened and need to change your wording. I like Dante, so if you say he sucks I would like a reason to see a different perspective cause I like the character.
Read his reply, he was originally going to put “hate” in but he didn’t want to in order to avoid an argument which I could honestly see coming from a mile away as well. Admiral is a huge Valt fan and I know he was going to try and disprove whatever point 6jupiter5 made or invalidate whatever opinion he had on Valt.
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:30 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 25, 2020 12:11 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]He didn't reword it to make Admiral feel better. Jupiter said Valt, Admiral asked for a reason, Jupiter said that he still likes Valt just the least out of the characters. Obviously this is a hate thread for characters you actually hate so Admiral pointed that out.
Asking for a reason shouldn't make you feel threatened and need to change your wording. I like Dante, so if you say he sucks I would like a reason to see a different perspective cause I like the character.
Read his reply, he was originally going to put “hate” in but he didn’t want to in order to avoid an argument which I could honestly see coming from a mile away as well. Admiral is a huge Valt fan and I know he was going to try and disprove whatever point 6jupiter5 made.
You don't have to disprove anything when you ask why do you hate x character. You could say Dante's red face gag is over used so it stops being funny. Do I necessarily believe that? Eh idk. But is trying to see another point of view automatically initiating a fight? No. There's no reason to feel threatened. If you're going on a hate thread to say you hate Valt, you have to say why you hate Valt and actually stick with your point. Folding out of fear in a literal hate thread isn't the play. Someone asking your points to why you hate a character is initiating a duel like looking at each other is Pokemon, its asking for your points.
Sometimes someone hates a character but might not have a reason. It might be that person irritates you.
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:40 AM)Free... Hoya Wrote: [ -> ]Sometimes someone hates a character but might not have a reason. It might be that person irritates you.
Well you can at least say that. You can say I hate Valt cause he's annoying. Jupiter stated no reason.
Lots of things about characters are subjective, its up to your opinion. You can say you don't like that his look is all blue and that his humor in unfunny, those are valid points.
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:38 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 25, 2020 12:30 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Read his reply, he was originally going to put “hate” in but he didn’t want to in order to avoid an argument which I could honestly see coming from a mile away as well. Admiral is a huge Valt fan and I know he was going to try and disprove whatever point 6jupiter5 made.
You don't have to disprove anything when you ask why do you hate x character. You could say Dante's red face gag is over used so it stops being funny. Do I necessarily believe that? Eh idk. But is trying to see another point of view automatically initiating a fight? No. There's no reason to feel threatened. If you're going on a hate thread to say you hate Valt, you have to say why you hate Valt and actually stick with your point. Folding out of fear in a literal hate thread isn't the play. Someone asking your points to why you hate a character is initiating a duel like looking at each other is Pokemon, its asking for your points.
Honestly he should be praised for actually avoiding a confrontation instead of being told the junk he’s being told tbh. There are many instances where dislike and hate are interchangeable terms with simply different tones and this is one of them. Saying you dislike a character the most out of a group of characters you don’t particularly dislike too much is the same as saying you hate a character the most of out a group of characters you don’t particularly hate too much and it still counts as “your most hated burst character” in its own context because the question of the thread isn’t “which character do you hate” its “which character do you hate the most.” Another thing, he doesn’t have to explain why he hates Valt on a hate thread seeing as saying “I hate Valt” is already an opinion in itself. Sure it may not be the best way of expressing how you feel but it’s still his opinion. Lastly,
isn’t the only person to make a seemingly “questionable” comment over the last couple of pages but he is surely the only person who was called out for it? It’s pretty obvious that there was something stirring.
Without getting into an argument here are my 3 main reasons as to why I dislike Valt,
1. The character personality is really overused (energetic and obsessed with whatever the show is about)
2. Valkyrie (the bey is really uninteresting to me besides god that was kind of cool)
3. Uninteresting (this goes in my 1st point, he’s the same story told again not, saying he’s a copy of Gingka. Also there’s more interesting characters like Phi or Kyle, Valt doesn’t have anything interesting besides how bad his cooking is)
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:48 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Without getting into an argument here are my 3 main reasons as to why I dislike Valt,
1. The character personality is really overused (energetic and obsessed with whatever the show is about)
2. Valkyrie (the bey is really uninteresting to me besides god that was kind of cool)
3. Uninteresting (this goes in my 1st point, he’s the same story told again not, saying he’s a copy of Gingka. Also there’s more interesting characters like Phi or Kyle, Valt doesn’t have anything interesting besides how bad his cooking is)
Well yeah this is what I was trying to say, just put your points and boom its all good.
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:45 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 25, 2020 12:38 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]You don't have to disprove anything when you ask why do you hate x character. You could say Dante's red face gag is over used so it stops being funny. Do I necessarily believe that? Eh idk. But is trying to see another point of view automatically initiating a fight? No. There's no reason to feel threatened. If you're going on a hate thread to say you hate Valt, you have to say why you hate Valt and actually stick with your point. Folding out of fear in a literal hate thread isn't the play. Someone asking your points to why you hate a character is initiating a duel like looking at each other is Pokemon, its asking for your points.
Honestly he should be praised for actually avoiding a confrontation instead of being told the junk he’s being told tbh. There are many instances where dislike and hate are interchangeable terms with simply different tones and this is one of them. Saying you dislike a character the most out of a group of characters you don’t particularly dislike too much is the same as saying you hate a character the most of out a group of characters you don’t particularly hate too much and it still counts as “your most hated burst character” in its own context because the question of the thread isn’t “which character do you hate” its “which character do you hate the most.” Another thing, he doesn’t have to explain why he hates Valt on a hate thread seeing as saying “I hate Valt” is already an opinion in itself. Sure it may not be the best way of expressing how you feel but it’s still his opinion. Lastly, isn’t the only person to make a seemingly “questionable” comment over the last couple of pages but he is surely the only person who was called out for it? It’s pretty obvious that there was something stirring.
Saying I hate Valt and someone asking you why isn't the start of a debate its asking you why you think that way regardless of if they like Valt or nah.
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:59 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 25, 2020 12:48 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Without getting into an argument here are my 3 main reasons as to why I dislike Valt,
1. The character personality is really overused (energetic and obsessed with whatever the show is about)
2. Valkyrie (the bey is really uninteresting to me besides god that was kind of cool)
3. Uninteresting (this goes in my 1st point, he’s the same story told again not, saying he’s a copy of Gingka. Also there’s more interesting characters like Phi or Kyle, Valt doesn’t have anything interesting besides how bad his cooking is)
Well yeah this is what I was trying to say, just put your points and boom its all good.
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:45 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly he should be praised for actually avoiding a confrontation instead of being told the junk he’s being told tbh. There are many instances where dislike and hate are interchangeable terms with simply different tones and this is one of them. Saying you dislike a character the most out of a group of characters you don’t particularly dislike too much is the same as saying you hate a character the most of out a group of characters you don’t particularly hate too much and it still counts as “your most hated burst character” in its own context because the question of the thread isn’t “which character do you hate” its “which character do you hate the most.” Another thing, he doesn’t have to explain why he hates Valt on a hate thread seeing as saying “I hate Valt” is already an opinion in itself. Sure it may not be the best way of expressing how you feel but it’s still his opinion. Lastly, isn’t the only person to make a seemingly “questionable” comment over the last couple of pages but he is surely the only person who was called out for it? It’s pretty obvious that there was something stirring.
Saying I hate Valt and someone asking you why isn't the start of a debate its asking you why you think that way regardless of if they like Valt or nah.
No I understand what you mean and even a civilized debate isn’t a bad thing, you and I have them all the time. I just feel like Admiral was trying to find a way to kinda out him because he didn’t like Valt, know what I mean? Is it really a coincidence that he replies to one of many vague comments that is particularly about his favourite character and after
replies to him he suddenly says something along the lines of “this is a hate thread blah blah blah”
(Dec. 25, 2020 1:10 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 25, 2020 12:59 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Well yeah this is what I was trying to say, just put your points and boom its all good.
Saying I hate Valt and someone asking you why isn't the start of a debate its asking you why you think that way regardless of if they like Valt or nah.
No I understand what you mean and even a civilized debate isn’t a bad thing, you and I have them all the time. I just feel like Admiral was trying to find a way to kinda out him becuase he didn’t like Valt, know what I mean? Is it really a coincidence that he replies to one of many vague comments that is particularly about his favourite character and after replies to him he suddenly says something along the lines of “this is a hate thread blah blah blah”
Jupiter didn't give his reasoning. Admiral simply asked what is reasoning was, which was unknown at the time. Jupiter says well he doesn't really hate the character. Admiral tells him that this is a hate thread for people that hate the characters.
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:09 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 24, 2020 10:20 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]This is a hate thread. Difference between liking a character the least and hating them.
To be honest he most likely did mean hate but since you questioned him on it he seemingly reworded it to make you feel better.
It does nothing for me for him to reword it. If that's how he feels he's entitled to that. Just curious if there was a reason why he felt the way he did.
(Dec. 25, 2020 12:48 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Without getting into an argument here are my 3 main reasons as to why I dislike Valt,
1. The character personality is really overused (energetic and obsessed with whatever the show is about)
2. Valkyrie (the bey is really uninteresting to me besides god that was kind of cool)
3. Uninteresting (this goes in my 1st point, he’s the same story told again not, saying he’s a copy of Gingka. Also there’s more interesting characters like Phi or Kyle, Valt doesn’t have anything interesting besides how bad his cooking is)
(Dec. 25, 2020 1:24 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 25, 2020 12:09 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]To be honest he most likely did mean hate but since you questioned him on it he seemingly reworded it to make you feel better.
It does no nothing for me for him to reword it. Just curious if there was a reason why he felt the way he did.
(Dec. 25, 2020 1:29 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 25, 2020 12:48 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Without getting into an argument here are my 3 main reasons as to why I dislike Valt,
1. The character personality is really overused (energetic and obsessed with whatever the show is about)
2. Valkyrie (the bey is really uninteresting to me besides god that was kind of cool)
3. Uninteresting (this goes in my 1st point, he’s the same story told again not, saying he’s a copy of Gingka. Also there’s more interesting characters like Phi or Kyle, Valt doesn’t have anything interesting besides how bad his cooking is)
(Dec. 25, 2020 1:24 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]It does no nothing for me for him to reword it. Just curious if there was a reason why he felt the way he did.
That's all I wanted to know. I don't agree, but you are entitled to that feeling.
(Dec. 25, 2020 1:13 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 25, 2020 1:10 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]No I understand what you mean and even a civilized debate isn’t a bad thing, you and I have them all the time. I just feel like Admiral was trying to find a way to kinda out him becuase he didn’t like Valt, know what I mean? Is it really a coincidence that he replies to one of many vague comments that is particularly about his favourite character and after replies to him he suddenly says something along the lines of “this is a hate thread blah blah blah”
Jupiter didn't give his reasoning. Admiral simply asked what is reasoning was, which was unknown at the time. Jupiter says well he doesn't really hate the character. Admiral tells him that this is a hate thread for people that hate the characters.
Well maybe he legitimately just doesn’t like Valt just because (yes we know it’s not true now but it’s a possibility amongst people)? I didn’t see him targeting other comments that didn’t include Valt. Anyways, let’s just forget this while we are still on the topic of hated characters because we seem to be slowly shifting off.
(Dec. 25, 2020 2:01 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Target towards Pot
Rip pot.
Gwyn:Hey Haise where is my gun?
Haise:I don't know.
(Dec. 25, 2020 1:41 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 25, 2020 1:13 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Jupiter didn't give his reasoning. Admiral simply asked what is reasoning was, which was unknown at the time. Jupiter says well he doesn't really hate the character. Admiral tells him that this is a hate thread for people that hate the characters.
Well maybe he legitimately just doesn’t like Valt just because (yes we know it’s not true now but it’s a possibility amongst people)? I didn’t see him targeting other comments that didn’t include Valt. Anyways, let’s just forget this while we are still on the topic of hated characters because we seem to be slowly shifting off.
What? There's nothing wrong with not liking Valt, he just didn't say why and someone simply asked why. Thats not hostile as you are making it out to be, but whatever.
And for the record, it was the most recent post, so I responded.
i hate joshua the most not shu but still hate shu when his corrupted
Hate Lean but at the same time he’s a bit cool I hate him as much as I hate Fumiya
Joshua and few others- if I say their names I know I'll be egged on, and that's another reason why I dislike both Aiga and Ryuga (Oh no I said it, the horror!)
Honestly, though Valt and Shu are my 1 and 2 respectively, I really hate them for one reason. Their fanbases. Like my goodness, sometimes I feel embarrassed to call myself a fan of either because of all the insane bias and arguments that could appear from just mentioning their name. Don't worry, I still like the characters though. I guess the Sisco fanbase is now my favorite. Haven't seen too much from them.
I absouletely despise Zac and Wakiya