(Nov. 15, 2020 10:51 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 15, 2020 10:46 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]I hate to be biased but the biggest scandal with the most plot armor as a protag who *cough* defeated Lui *cough* way too early *cough*.
Ok, I don't hate Aiga, but he does kinda have the most plot protection out of all the protags reign (my opinion).
As for a character I hate...
STAN HAMBURG JOSHUA BOON/BURNS
Remember how Valt beat xander and almost beat Lui. Remember how Free lost to Valt due to an injury? Remember how he beat Zac with a last second burst.
1. Valt got stronger mid battle, by actually doing things that made sense, like coming up with the Runaway Shot, or hitting up with the High Jump Shot. Wouldn't be able to pull that off randomly if he already didn't have the base level of strength required, plus the skill.
2. True, but ironic how the stamina type blader had less stamina than the attack type blader. Him being that OP for only 3 rounds was his downfall, but cheap, I admit. Still beat Shu after who could be arguably just as strong, or stronger than Free at the time.
3. Also very convenient, but still can make sense due to the fact that Valkyrie had constantly attacked.
Main thing I have to say about Aiga is...
Aiga VS Lui (after Longinus Cup)- Resonance carried him, and while he did make a new shooting form, don't think that's enough power to just burst Longinus at random.
Aiga VS Valt (after Battleship Cruise)- It was the dark power, and mainly the dark power. Notice how the one round he didn't use it, Achilles burst.
Aiga VS Phi (after Battleship Cruise))- Also just Aiga screaming to somehow survive both Revive Armor Press and Phoenix Break with no special moves.
Aiga VS Count Night- Had no strategy against the Dead Gravity, just tanked it with dark resonance, AGAIN.
Some of the main reasons why I did not like Aiga in Cho-Z at first.
I do be biased, but I think I have some valid points.
Boa in Evolution and Aiga in Turbo. Boa was a total brat and all he did was wine and insult people. He wasn't even that good of a blader. (turbo spoilers).....Aiga broke Vault's bey and no one seemed to bat an eye even though everyone in the show hated Phi for breaking beys (not saying Phi's a good guy but still) and Aiga is a total sore looser
I kinda hate Valt. But I mostly hate Fumiya and Blindt
(Nov. 16, 2020 12:06 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I kinda hate Valt. But I mostly hate Fumiya and Blindt
Might you explain why you kinda hate Valt? Wanna get in the mind of an unpopular opinion.
Lui and phi. (I hate phi because he broke hades - my favorite cho-z)
I aint changing my mind on Wonder Boy.
Honestly a blader that really sucked would be Ren Wu
(Nov. 16, 2020 12:23 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I aint changing my mind on Wonder Boy.
Honestly a blader that really sucked would be Ren Wu
Not saying to change your mind, just asking why.
(Nov. 16, 2020 12:26 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 16, 2020 12:23 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I aint changing my mind on Wonder Boy.
Honestly a blader that really sucked would be Ren Wu
Not saying to change your mind, just asking why.
Well it not hate hate but its more like akwardness cause he is number 1 and not Aiga
(Nov. 16, 2020 12:49 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 16, 2020 12:26 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]Not saying to change your mind, just asking why.
Well it not hate hate but its more like akwardness cause he is number 1 and not Aiga
Well, Aiga is the world champion in the anime, but Valt is still stronger I guess. Basically just a useless title then ever since GT, so I wouldn't complain about it; however, you have your right to your opinion, so I won't and can't stop you.
(Nov. 16, 2020 12:11 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 16, 2020 12:49 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Well it not hate hate but its more like akwardness cause he is number 1 and not Aiga
Well, Aiga is the world champion in the anime, but Valt is still stronger I guess. Basically just a useless title then ever since GT, so I wouldn't complain about it; however, you have your right to your opinion, so I won't and can't stop you.
The title is not useless; i prefer to compare this with the game of chess; the world champion of chess is traditionally considered the strongest player.
However, that does not mean he is always the number 1 ranked player by the elo rating ( each player registered is given a 'rating' and the higher it is the stronger the player; it basically depends on number of tournaments attended and players whom you've beaten).
the only way to attain a world champion title is through a title match every 2 years.
This is what I gather is the case with aiga and the world champion title; no one has challenged him yet to a title match and that is the reason he is still world champion.
(Nov. 16, 2020 12:11 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 16, 2020 12:49 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Well it not hate hate but its more like akwardness cause he is number 1 and not Aiga
Well, Aiga is the world champion in the anime, but Valt is still stronger I guess. Basically just a useless title then ever since GT, so I wouldn't complain about it; however, you have your right to your opinion, so I won't and can't stop you.
Well there is a difference between a rank and title. Titles are acquired through beating the previous title holder in a title match while ranks are ascended. There’s generally a good difference. As
said, Aiga probably hasn’t faced a serious/stronger challenger in a title match since he got it.
Boa in Evolution and Aiga in Turbo. Boa was a total brat and all he did was wine and insult people. He wasn't even that good of a blader. (turbo spoilers).....Aiga broke Vault's bey and no one seemed to bat an eye even though everyone in the show hated Phi for breaking beys (not saying Phi's a good guy but still) and Aiga is a total sore looser
I hated aiga at the beginning of cho z because I was use to and wanted Valt to be the protagonist
(Nov. 16, 2020 12:36 PM)Vtryuga Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 16, 2020 12:11 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]Well, Aiga is the world champion in the anime, but Valt is still stronger I guess. Basically just a useless title then ever since GT, so I wouldn't complain about it; however, you have your right to your opinion, so I won't and can't stop you.
The title is not useless; i prefer to compare this with the game of chess; the world champion of chess is traditionally considered the strongest player.
However, that does not mean he is always the number 1 ranked player by the elo rating ( each player registered is given a 'rating' and the higher it is the stronger the player; it basically depends on number of tournaments attended and players whom you've beaten).
the only way to attain a world champion title is through a title match every 2 years.
This is what I gather is the case with aiga and the world champion title; no one has challenged him yet to a title match and that is the reason he is still world champion.
Yeah, just a title and a fancy name, but doesn't really mean much in the long run. That's more of what I was getting at when previously Burst had focused more on the champion being number 1, or the strongest. Not exactly the case here.
You can tell it doesn't matter much based on how little it's been mentioned.
Probally hate Lane the most
(Nov. 15, 2020 11:02 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 15, 2020 10:51 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Remember how Valt beat xander and almost beat Lui. Remember how Free lost to Valt due to an injury? Remember how he beat Zac with a last second burst.
1. Valt got stronger mid battle, by actually doing things that made sense, like coming up with the Runaway Shot, or hitting up with the High Jump Shot. Wouldn't be able to pull that off randomly if he already didn't have the base level of strength required, plus the skill.
2. True, but ironic how the stamina type blader had less stamina than the attack type blader. Him being that OP for only 3 rounds was his downfall, but cheap, I admit. Still beat Shu after who could be arguably just as strong, or stronger than Free at the time.
3. Also very convenient, but still can make sense due to the fact that Valkyrie had constantly attacked.
Main thing I have to say about Aiga is...
Aiga VS Lui (after Longinus Cup)- Resonance carried him, and while he did make a new shooting form, don't think that's enough power to just burst Longinus at random.
Aiga VS Valt (after Battleship Cruise)- It was the dark power, and mainly the dark power. Notice how the one round he didn't use it, Achilles burst.
Aiga VS Phi (after Battleship Cruise))- Also just Aiga screaming to somehow survive both Revive Armor Press and Phoenix Break with no special moves.
Aiga VS Count Night- Had no strategy against the Dead Gravity, just tanked it with dark resonance, AGAIN.
Some of the main reasons why I did not like Aiga in Cho-Z at first.
I do be biased, but I think I have some valid points.
Every point you made was more than valid, I agree with all of them. Never liked Aiger in Cho-Z for those very reasons.
I never liked Valt just because he was immature in the first 2 seasons. But after it gets better but i just am not a Valt fan
(Nov. 16, 2020 5:22 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I never liked Valt just because he was immature in the first 2 seasons. But after it gets better but i just am not a Valt fan
He certainly was a goofball (Which was part of his charm as a character) I don't think your giving Valt his due though. He handled many situations with a maturity beyond his years. Daigo's cheating, Instead of looking down on and abandoning his friend, he freely forgave him after Daigo made things right. Could have easily decided to have nothing to do with him anymore. Naioki, even after everything he had done, Valt didn't hold a grudge against him and even taught him how he could better handle his experiments In the future so that everyone benefits. Very mature attitude.
My least favorite character used to be aiger because the turbo series really just tried to make u hate him but once aiger hit rise and sparking I started to like him a lot more but still not that high on my list my current least favorite characters would prolly be the two main characters of sparking hyuga and the other guy, I don’t actually not like them that much but I like all the characters and there prolly my least fav
Dang I just read admirals post and dang I never thought of it that way
(Dec. 05, 2020 11:12 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I hate Lui
I say lui, drum and harry. All three suck and I hate them
Harry looked good In episode 15 but through 16 he started looking like the oldest hedgehog ever. His face got fat and he was ugly so I hope people would stop worshipping Harry (It’s a joke, you do you but I hate how Harry looks.)