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I started testing Expand just a little.

Conditions:  
-layers Sr x 2 in opposite spin
- Ds x 2 (both are red ones from the triple pack and both free spin pretty well)
- 0 disk x 2
-Expand frame vs Proof frame
- I switched the layers after 8 rounds to see if there would be noticeable difference in win rate and there wasn’t.  I will do a follow up test in which I switch the drivers if I can get around to it
-soft launch both always
-20 total rounds 

Sr.0E.Ds vs Sr.0P.Ds (layers are in opposite spin)
Expand    9OS wins (9/15= 60% win rate)
Proof       6OS wins (6/15= 40% win rate)
Ties.        5 

Video:
https://youtu.be/TdGqKF6UU-8

Edit:

Did some additional test of Expand  on 0E.Br vs 0W.Br.  It’s not formal as there were too many ties redo just to get to 5 rounds with W/L results.  

Opposite spin:  Sr.0E.Br vs  Sr.0W.Br
Wall         4 wins
Exapnd     1 win
Ties          6

No percentages given due to limited results.  Just to give a feel.  More testing is definitely necessary.  But most likely this will conclude my testing of Expand for now.  

Video: 
https://youtu.be/5_xG3H14Smg
(Feb. 27, 2019  10:41 PM)Shindog Wrote: [ -> ]I started testing Expand just a little.

Conditions:  
-layers Sr x 2 in opposite spin
- Ds x 2 (both are red ones from the triple pack and both free spin pretty well)
- 0 disk x 2
-Expand frame vs Proof frame
- I switched the layers after 8 rounds to see if there would be noticeable difference in win rate and there wasn’t.  I will do a follow up test in which I switch the drivers if I can get around to it
-soft launch both always
-20 total rounds 

Sr.0E.Ds vs Sr.0P.Ds (layers are in opposite spin)
Expand    9OS wins (9/15= 60% win rate)
Proof       6OS wins (6/15= 40% win rate)
Ties.        5 

Video:
https://youtu.be/TdGqKF6UU-8

Can you try Archer Hercules 10Proof Eternal against Cho-Z Valkyrie 0Lift Xtreme’ and then try the same battle with Expand on aH?
Did some additional test of Expand  on 0E.Br vs 0W.Br.  It’s not formal as there were too many ties redo just to get to 5 rounds with W/L results.  

Opposite spin:  Sr.0E.Br vs  Sr.0W.Br
Wall         4 wins
Exapnd     1 win
Ties          6

No percentages given due to limited results.  Just to give a feel.  More testing is definitely necessary.  But most likely this will conclude my testing of Expand for now.  

Video:
https://youtu.be/5_xG3H14Smg
It seems like Expand is a good replacement for Bump for some drivers. It gives good LAD, especially on Bearing.

However its LAD potential doesn't beat heavier, lower frames like Wall, Turn, and Lift.

It's a good choice for LAD combos where you don't want to automatically lose a same-spin matchup (due to Wall, Turn, Lift scraping).
@[Shindog] What's Expand's weight?
(Apr. 20, 2019  1:58 AM)Jack Frosty Wrote: [ -> ]@[Shindog] What's Expand's weight?

I don’t remember the exact weight but I think it is top 5 in terms of weight.  Lighter than Wall, Turn, Lift I believe.