(Mar. 14, 2014 2:53 PM)Nocto Wrote: [ -> ]Should there be a Mold 3, I would say that pictures 1 and 3 would be it, 5 and 6 Mold 2. Pictures 2 and 4 look like Burn's been hammered inward (not unlike OkiBlaze's). In any case, I don't think the difference is so huge that someone can just pick up a Burn Wheel and eyeball it (I didn't) with total certainty.
Sources (no particular order):
2x BB-96 MF-F Burn Cancer 90WD (1 Known, think I know which the other is but not 100% sure)
1x BB-82 RBV5 Burn Unicorno SW145JB (Known)
1x BB-59 Burn Phoenix 135MS (Takara, purchased soon after I signed up here, which was before BB-96's release)
1x BB-100 RBV6 Burn Escolpio 100RF
1x BB-59 Burn "Fireblaze" 135MS (Hasbro, Mid-Late Metal Fusion (definitely post-BB-96's release, Known)
By current theory I should have two Mold 2's, One of whatever Hasbro used (their release pre-dated BB-96 though I got mine well after that), and 3 Mold Threes.
And more importantly, what I think/know of where each of them came from:
1: Hasbro Burn Fireblaze (Metal Fusion Starter)
2: Unknown - likely BB-96 MF-F Burn Cancer 90WD, but could be BB-100 Burn Escolpio 100RF.
3: Unknown - inverse of #2 - likely BB-100, but possibly BB-96
4: Unknown - think this is my Takara Burn Phoenix one given the wear. Would be really good if I knew for sure and also that it wasn't dented inwards but then that is what caused me to suspect there may not be a real mold 3 in the first place.
5: BB-96 MF-F Burn Cancer 90WD
6: RBV5 Burn Unicorno SW145JB - See this looks like the above one to me, adjusting for shininess (which makes the outer wall of #5 look a bit thinner than it is).
They're also in weight order from lightest to heaviest (though #5 is not currently in my weight document), for what it's worth, however the weights are all very similar, lots of crossover etc etc.
The thing is, side-on I also don't see any difference in the relative heights of the outer walls of the channel, which would happen if the channel was further out that way, and the other wall does not appear at all thicker. Can't be 100% on the latter without calipers (however from looking at #5, which should be mold 3, and #4, which is the only one I think could be Mold 2, I'm like 99% sure they're the same, and from what I can tell of OkiBlaze's video, that applies there as well), but the former I can show:
Here's #4 and #5 Side-By-Side. Not the clearest photo but it should be sufficient.
I had to rotate them to different positions so the ends of the channels didn't interfere with perspective, and of course #4 is dented inwards, so it looks like it doesn't extend as far - focus on the height/vertical thickness instead basically.
http://i.imgur.com/SPh2DXp.jpg
As you can see, basically the same.
You mention you didn't eyeball yours - do you have a mold 2 that is measurably different to mold 3? If so, how did you verify this?
Quote:Some Metal System weights (all from boosters):
Wolf: 33.96 g, 34.25 g 36 g*
Sagittario: 32.90 g, 33.65 g (0.75 g is an interesting difference)
Pegasis: 34.60 g 36 g*
Aries (from the Honk Kong three-pack; only have the one): 34.05 g
*Beywiki
So Pegasis is not from BB-96? Well, then there probably isn't a difference in those then. SGTO is probably just random variation too:
Kei Wrote:Here are the weights for my Pegasis Wheels:
Black (BB-21/BB-05?): 35.22g
BB-96: 34.50g
That's an almost significant difference, I guess. Although, I can't identify any differences in mold. The only mold change for Pegasis that I've ever heard of was the pre-release version (as in, before the BB-00 Prototype Pegasis was released) to the final version that was released.
I asked Kei about this on a hunch - all the other Metal System Rereleases bar Pisces had mold changes when released around that time, but if your booster one is just 34.6, that's well within the weight range of my two BB-96 ones so it's likely just variation.
Also damn, there go my hopes of Wolf maybe being somewhere near 36g and somehow not being useless offensively haha, though with how many people owned that thing back in the day it was a silly thing to hope for.
Anyway, I went back and flicked through the weights of MFB thread.
Here are the major posts where people posted a lot of weights:
OP Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...3K4C#gid=0
Uwik:
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Weights-...#pid577328
Byser's Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...mbFE#gid=2
Arupaeo:
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Weights-...#pid566809 (no mold/manufacturer info)
Ingulit:
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Weights-...#pid978803
My Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?...d2c&gid=20
There are more scattered throughout the thread that aren't in the OP, particularly from page 4-9 or thereabouts but yeah.
Anyway, between them we do have data on each of the Metal System wheels affected by what we saw. Only one weight for Gemios (Uwik's), but nonetheless, the data is there whenever anyone wants to fix that up (I will probably do it in the next few days depending how various things pan out, but if anyone else wants to calculate averages and update the articles, be my guest).