(Aug. 12, 2011 5:23 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]From my standpoint the incentive is there, and if it's not enough they shouldn't be advanced. Obviously if they aren't posting, the incentive is not enough for them. I'm just saying there is all the incentive anyone should need there.
but where's your base of reasoning for this?
I said why they have no incentive, now tell me why they would have incentive...
No, I completely acknowledge what you do right. If I didn't, I wouldn't still be here or trying to promote your tournaments along with going out of my way to attend them.
Well it certainly wasn't "fastened" or "secured".
The beyblade was never attached to the launcher so she would have been free to swap the launcher at any point.
And tbh, I'm going to be presumptuous here, I have been wondering what I'm still doing wrong, so no, I'm not actually aware of what I need to work on, because my posts aren't usually over-long any more.
: As I've said, I see being an advanced member a privilege which carries certain duties.
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:30 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]: As I've said, I see being an advanced member a privilege which carries certain duties.
... You keep avoiding my question. And It isn't a duty that they're stuck with and have to continue until the end of time...
Why would someone who was previously a very active member, and was active for a long time, who left the hobby for personal reasons or losing interest in the hobby have incentive to fully contribute daily, weekly, monthly, etc...?
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:30 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]And tbh, I'm going to be presumptuous here, I have been wondering what I'm still doing wrong, so no, I'm not actually aware of what I need to work on, because my posts aren't usually over-long any more.
As I wrote, they have gotten better.
th!nk Wrote:The beyblade was never attached to the launcher so she would have been free to swap the launcher at any point.
How do you know ?
So then, what have I yet to do to be an advanced member? This is my point.
By definition and design, a right spin-locked beyblade cannot attach to the prongs of a beylauncher-L.
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:37 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]So then, what have I yet to do to be an advanced member? This is my point.
Because by definition a right spin-locked beyblade cannot attach to the prongs of a beylauncher-L.
1. IF THAT'S YOUR POINT, Y U NO SAY JUST THAT IN FIRST PLACE?! D=<
2. Yes, and everyone knows that -.- you have no proof that Dei or Bluezee did whatever, blah, blah, blah.
1. I was hoping no one would jump to that conclusion. Obviously, it is not the point of my entire argument, only my response to what Kai-V has said.
2. I have enough of an understanding of the situation, I think. As I've said, it's impossible for it to attach, and the follow on from that resolves the situation.
Th!nk.... I think kai v said its cause we know the members. Or something. I see you want to change things around and stuff but you're just like us with decent knowledge. But superior heh xD. How about showing us your combos hmm? I don't think I've seen one of yours before nor tested enough. Im just being forward about this that is all...
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:37 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]So then, what have I yet to do to be an advanced member? This is my point.
By definition and design, a right spin-locked beyblade cannot attach to the prongs of a beylauncher-L.
Can you not wait just a few more days ? If you know you are probably 'there' already, then why do you act as if you expect us to take months before making you an Advanced Member still ? It is imminent ...
Not by definition. To me, "attaching" can still include the act of 'joining', uniting them.
® Wrote:Th!nk.... I think kai v said its cause we know the members. Or something. I see you want to change things around and stuff but you're just like us with decent knowledge. How about showing us your combos hmm? I don't think I've seen one of yours before nor tested enough. Im just being forward about this that is all...
Hm, th!nk has contributed more than you seem to remember, for sure ...
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:43 AM)® Wrote: [ -> ]Th!nk.... I think kai v said its cause we know the members. Or something. I see you want to change things around and stuff but you're just like us with decent knowledge. But superior heh xD. How about showing us your combos hmm? I don't think I've seen one of yours before nor tested enough. Im just being forward about this that is all...
You're really pushing yourself with me and both th!nk
th!nk is above both yours and my intelligence put together, just because he doesn't have one of his precious combos tested, doesn't mean carp.
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:39 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: [ -> ]1. IF THAT'S YOUR POINT, Y U NO SAY JUST THAT IN FIRST PLACE?! D=<
2. Yes, and everyone knows that -.- you have no proof that Dei or Bluezee did whatever, blah, blah, blah.
He has just as much of an understanding as the committee does because the only way any of them know anything about this is from a video and what Bluezee and I have told the committee because none of them were there.
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:44 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]Not by definition. To me, "attaching" can still include the act of 'joining', uniting them.
Then that is to you, but I went by the other 66% of that definition, which happens to be a majority of that definition.
I appreciate that, but I still do not feel the requirements are fair, or set at a level that is best for the community. I'd be making the same argument were I an advanced member, tbh.
Um, yes, it is by definition? It cannot attach as it cannot stay on the launcher? They are not "together" or "connected" at all...
@®: Yeah,
What have I ever done for the community?
Hmm. What do you suggest about the requirements or how these people get selected. I appreciate that last post because it heads towards a conversation and away from arguing.
I just want it to be a little less strict is all. It is hard to sum up. Basically, people aren't getting in due to relatively small issues with their posting, and I honestly don't think it serves the best interests of the community. It is definitely something I have some difficulty explaining fully, as there isn't a set level at which people should "get in", but I hope that helps a little?
@®: Basically, exactly what you said, but replace Rai with ®. I might have an ego, but at least mine is partially justified. You on the other hand...
Backing all of your criticism in the customizations forum with results before posting, asking creative questions, helping other users improve, do not be condescending, having a beyrank of 4 digits (not incredibly hard to do), and come up with at least one top tier combo and/or launch (as Dan had explained with his weak launch, which is brilliant).
Also, I think that the past should not be held against a person who is honestly just trying to move forward and change.
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:58 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]I just want it to be a little less strict is all. It is hard to sum up. Basically, people aren't getting in due to relatively small issues with their posting, and I honestly don't think it serves the best interests of the community. It is definitely something I have some difficulty explaining fully, as there isn't a set level at which people should "get in", but I hope that helps a little?
Hm, this whole thing seems like you are treating it like 'elite only', and that if you're not an advanced member then you don't have any say.
From my point of view, what you want seems like 'generally advanced'
(Aug. 12, 2011 6:03 AM)Shabalabadoo Wrote: [ -> ]if you're not an advanced member then you don't have any say.
I kind of agree with this , as i cannot express my opinion about the banning of basalt.
I hate to just say something randomly but i really want this to be addressed
I have my own question , why are we not able to host plastic/HMS tournaments this is the world
beyblade organization no? I mean , it would be nice that you could choose a certain format , since that would encourage me to host more tourneys , maybe twice a month having a plastic and MFB tourney. I no that plastics/HMS are not being produced anymore , but there are heaps of people who love plastics/HMS and a tourney would be nice , but maybe limit the amount of plastic/HMS tournaments to once every 2 months or something because most kids only have MFB , and I can imagine plastic tourneys getting out of control.
That is the problem, you don't really get any say. I've explained that already, so I'd really appreciate if you could just look through the discussion and find that
That is somewhat what I mean, but not really so vague/open. I've listed people who I think should be "advanced", and as I said, an intermediate tier would be nice.
: I think we are able to, hence the second rule set, it is more that no one has.
(Aug. 12, 2011 6:06 AM)RustyXD Wrote: [ -> ]I have my own question , why are we not able to host plastic/HMS tournaments this is the world beyblade organization no? I mean , it would be nice that you could choose a certain format , since that would encourage me to host more tourneys , maybe twice a month having a plastic and MFB tourney. I no that plastics/HMS are not being produced anymore , but there are heaps of people who love plastics/HMS and a tourney would be nice , but maybe limit the amount of plastic/HMS tournaments to once every 2 months or something because most kids only have MFB , and I can imagine plastic tourneys getting out of control.
Hm, you are able ? And personally, there should be nothing stopping us from just processing them in the same Beypoint System, but other Committee Members disagree for some reason.
Why couldn't you just make a thread in the normal forum about banning Basalt?
(Aug. 12, 2011 6:10 AM)Cye Kinomiya Wrote: [ -> ]Why couldn't you just make a thread in the normal forum about banning Basalt?
Who is this question for ?
Hmm , OK well its not the world MFB organization , and if you cannot/do not want to process the beypoints together why not have a separate ranking/ amount of points for each format ?
And yes I am able to host a plastic tourney , I order a lot of plastics so i can lend them out and a few others who were not able to make it to a tourney on HMS/Plastics day have some , and if all that fails i could buy some and sell them to the people in the Sydney community
For me i think , am i allowed i would love to do that if its allowed
(Aug. 12, 2011 6:11 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 12, 2011 6:10 AM)Cye Kinomiya Wrote: [ -> ]Why couldn't you just make a thread in the normal forum about banning Basalt?
Who is this question for ?
th!nk and Rusty. They said they feel like they don't have a say.
(Aug. 12, 2011 6:09 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 12, 2011 6:06 AM)RustyXD Wrote: [ -> ]I have my own question , why are we not able to host plastic/HMS tournaments this is the world beyblade organization no? I mean , it would be nice that you could choose a certain format , since that would encourage me to host more tourneys , maybe twice a month having a plastic and MFB tourney. I no that plastics/HMS are not being produced anymore , but there are heaps of people who love plastics/HMS and a tourney would be nice , but maybe limit the amount of plastic/HMS tournaments to once every 2 months or something because most kids only have MFB , and I can imagine plastic tourneys getting out of control.
Hm, you are able ? And personally, there should be nothing stopping us from just processing them in the same Beypoint System, but other Committee Members disagree for some reason.
Your skill as a blader varies minimally from format to format. In PND! and HND!, the top four winners (with the exception of Crimson
) are all high ranking bladers with MFB as well. In those two events, Daegor and To still did horribly, as usual, meaning we're all skilled as bladers, not in formats.