(Aug. 12, 2011 4:44 AM)Deikailo Wrote: [ -> ]He's saying that there are "undiscovered" members who have advanced skill, but if they don't post in the forums regarding their skill, then why bother making them advanced?
this isn't directed towards deikailo, it's towards the point that was said (I'm no going to go quote a bunch of stuff)
8 and a half months ago, when those members were chosen to be advanced members, they were very active.
So I really don't see why this is an issue. Whether things changed in their life or they lost interest in beyblade, they moved on, and thats not for us to complain about. You can't expect them to post frequently forever.
Th!nk, you're not even into MFB right now, so I don't really think you can support this specific part of your argument.
(Aug. 12, 2011 4:46 AM)® Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 12, 2011 4:24 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]Then I just want to let you know, th!nk, that we know about those people. That is all I will write.
^ I think this was an simple answer to th!nk's question.
How is that even an answer? There is no reason behind that. Why can't their reasoning for their decisions against Th!nk becoming an advanced member be said to his face? Or Arupaeo? Or Control_? It's not that we can't handle the truth, it's that we abhor the lack of communication, which is a growing concern for users like us. Th!nk hasn't even gotten his beypoints processed from
over two months ago, nor the faces for it. What communication has their been for that? Then there is the whole Bluezee vs. Deikailo match, where neither of us gain a say in our own battle.
: I still have most of the parts, I still test, and I can still be perfectly aware of what's going on. You've only been back into it for a week or so, what's to say you're staying? Heck, I'm gonna be egotistical here: I still know more about MFB than a few advanced members.
Sure, maybe they were, but not for very long tbh, and once they all stopped being active, maybe something could've been done to keep the advanced forum alive, sooner than it has.
(Aug. 12, 2011 4:49 AM)Shabalabadoo Wrote: [ -> ]Th!nk, you're not even into MFB right now, so I don't really think you can support this specific part of your argument.
I think he would be if there was any incentive to be.
(Aug. 12, 2011 4:36 AM)® Wrote: [ -> ]If basalt never existed, it would be used a bit more. Probably why Vulcan is still up. As a matter of fact, Vulcan would be dominating for right spin attack if Basalt wasnt here. See, you're mainly focusing on parts that beats a basalt combo.
not really, IMO vulcan should of been dropped for a long time
it can do very little VS a MF-H earth bull GB145RS combo, and that combo is outclassed
also, fang, beat, and maybe even hell should do better
It's not TT's fault they make MFB less interesting and more formulatic.
Or are you speaking on the behalf of the reason that he didn't get Beypoints and such?
Alright dude, lets just wait and see what others have to say about this..
(Aug. 12, 2011 4:51 AM)Deikailo Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 12, 2011 4:49 AM)Shabalabadoo Wrote: [ -> ]Th!nk, you're not even into MFB right now, so I don't really think you can support this specific part of your argument.
I think he would be if there was any incentive to be.
Dead-on.
: Not quite what she meant.
(Aug. 12, 2011 4:52 AM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 12, 2011 4:36 AM)® Wrote: [ -> ]If basalt never existed, it would be used a bit more. Probably why Vulcan is still up. As a matter of fact, Vulcan would be dominating for right spin attack if Basalt wasnt here. See, you're mainly focusing on parts that beats a basalt combo.
not really, IMO vulcan should of been dropped for a long time
it can do very little VS a MF-H earth bull GB145RS combo, and that combo is outclassed
also, fang, beat, and maybe even hell should do better
Speaking of people who I think would deserve an intermediary "Who To Listen To" rank, I missed lord Wolfblade.
(Aug. 12, 2011 4:51 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]I still have the parts, I still test, and I can still be perfectly aware of what's going on. You've only been back into it for a week or so, what's to say you're staying?
that doesn't mean anything to this...(and I'm staying btw).
I said that to show that you (and even me) really can't complain about their absence in MFB, that's just being hypocrites.
(Aug. 12, 2011 4:51 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, maybe they were, but not for very long tbh, and once they all stopped being active, maybe something could've been done to keep the advanced forum alive, sooner than it has.
They were as active as long as you or me.
That's the reason as to why they were chosen as advanced, or
Veteran members.
I'd rather not have the discussion about maybe removing some people from advanced, but the point is, they AREN'T any more. But yeah, I can complain, as I feel if they're gonna be an advanced member, it's kind of a duty. :\
Still, removing people isn't the answer, as I've said.
because of the disscusion of basalt, i do think that there should be more advance members to post their thoughts, or at least a thread for none advance members.
we are a community right? so shouldn't all members of this community get a say
i do not think that anyone should have be removed from the advanced members though...
Just drop the discussion please.
I understand that they are in fact legit suggestions, and should be taken into careful consideration by the WBO Staff, but please do understand, that what you may see as "broken" or wrong, may not be that way in their eyes. Please, it a warzone in here just stop.
(Aug. 12, 2011 4:50 AM)Deikailo Wrote: [ -> ]How is that even an answer? There is no reason behind that. Why can't their reasoning for their decisions against Th!nk becoming an advanced member be said to his face? Or Arupaeo? Or Control_? It's not that we can't handle the truth, it's that we abhor the lack of communication, which is a growing concern for users like us. Th!nk hasn't even gotten his beypoints processed from over two months ago, nor the faces for it. What communication has their been for that? Then there is the whole Bluezee vs. Deikailo match, where neither of us gain a say in our own battle.
We have already told th!nk what he had to work on, and for sure he is really, really close to getting there, if he is not there already.
Do you think we have something against th!nk or something ? I try to go in chronological order with tournaments, so that means that there are other events that must have happened beforehand that are still not processed, unfortunately.
Hm, both Bluezee and you were just talking against each other, and we asked for plenty of details from both of you, so what else did you want to say about it ... ?
To be honest think, blabbering over an tier list? I think this should stop now and see what other members got to say about this
this is a response to your most recent post here. Well, the one after my most recent post here.
(Aug. 12, 2011 4:55 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 12, 2011 4:51 AM)Deikailo Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 12, 2011 4:49 AM)Shabalabadoo Wrote: [ -> ]Th!nk, you're not even into MFB right now, so I don't really think you can support this specific part of your argument.
I think he would be if there was any incentive to be.
Dead-on.
And they couldn't?
You're kinda being a hypocrite, both ways
I feel that you guys need to see this in the bigger picture. Try seeing WBO as an organization, rather than a forum. Being an advanced member could mean several things. Help out your community growth / be helpful / intels & new releases / share combos / constructive posts. Online & in the real world.
The Advanced forum is an added bonus, yeah I know, everybody wants the bonus and the recognition. I can't lie about it, I feel that I've done some things right. I can speak for myself, that I'm not the most posting-active members here. But with the lack of that, I try to make it up by supporting my community. Educate them about WBO, so they too, can learn a few things about beyblades.
The advanced forum not being considerably active is by no means an indication to why few advance members there are not deserving the status.
I do agree with some of th!nk's posts that there are more members here who should be considered. Kai-V has stated the committees are aware of these members. So, let's leave it at that for now huh?
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:00 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 12, 2011 4:50 AM)Deikailo Wrote: [ -> ]How is that even an answer? There is no reason behind that. Why can't their reasoning for their decisions against Th!nk becoming an advanced member be said to his face? Or Arupaeo? Or Control_? It's not that we can't handle the truth, it's that we abhor the lack of communication, which is a growing concern for users like us. Th!nk hasn't even gotten his beypoints processed from over two months ago, nor the faces for it. What communication has their been for that? Then there is the whole Bluezee vs. Deikailo match, where neither of us gain a say in our own battle.
We have already told th!nk what he had to work on, and for sure he is really, really close to getting there, if he is not there already.
Do you think we have something against th!nk or something ? I try to go in chronological order with tournaments, so that means that there are other events that must have happened beforehand that are still not processed, unfortunately.
Hm, both Bluezee and you were just talking againt each other, and we asked for plenty of details from both of you, so what else did you want to say about it ... ?
You haven't told anyone else off the list what they need to work on.
If they were in chronological order, you shouldn't process any that were after it, either, even if I do send you frequent PMs to nag you about it. He paid for his tournament so he should be allowed to bask in his beypoints.
I'd really like to know what's going on in your conversation over a clear win. Basalt cannot attach (BY DEFINITION) to a left spin launcher, and the rules stated that a right spin beyblade cannot be attached to a left spin launcher. Not my fault if you can't clarify the rules.
: I don't think you are thinking along the same lines as Dei and I are re: 'incentive'. They have plenty of incentive. :\ Stop calling me a hypocrite, it's childish and incorrect.
And as I've said, I'm not particularly satisified with Kai-V's answer.
@®: I AM going on about it, because it's the perfect example of what I'm saying. As I've said, try to actually engage your brain before touching the keyboard again.
LMAO! Why couldn't you just post something like, "I think these members should be Advanced Bladers. The topics in that forum are kind of stale and I think they'd have a lot to contribute."
Also, are you saying that being an Advanced Blader will make you like mfb again?
: it seems you're taking something personal.
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:11 AM)Cye Kinomiya Wrote: [ -> ]: it seems you're taking something personal.
Yes, I am taking a lot of things here personally.
That's basically what I said, just in a different form, haha. To Dei, I mean.
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:11 AM)Cye Kinomiya Wrote: [ -> ]LMAO! Why couldn't you just post something like, "I think these members should be Advanced Bladers. The topics in that forum are kind of stale and I think they'd have a lot to contribute."
Also, are you saying that being an Advanced Blader will make you like mfb again?
: it seems you're taking something personal.
Because it's more than that, as I've said.
It would be somewhat of an incentive, to be perfectly honest, because I'd take that kind of thing seriously. Is that so strange?
And there's no reason she shouldn't be taking some of this personally tbh.
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:09 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]They have plenty of incentive.
Hmm, did they tell you that?
If they left, they lost interest. If there's no interest, how is there incentive at all?
I don't think the hypocrite comment was childish, it's really how you're dealing with this :\
From my standpoint the incentive is there, and if it's not enough they shouldn't be advanced. Obviously if they aren't posting, the incentive is not enough for them. I'm just saying there is all the incentive anyone should need there.
I'm not being hypocritical, as I've explained.
(Aug. 12, 2011 5:07 AM)Deikailo Wrote: [ -> ]You haven't told anyone else off the list what they need to work on.
If they were in chronological order, you shouldn't process any that were after it, either, even if I do send you frequent PMs to nag you about it. He paid for his tournament so he should be allowed to bask in his beypoints.
I'd really like to know what's going on in your conversation over a clear win. Basalt cannot attach (BY DEFINITION) to a left spin launcher, and the rules stated that a right spin beyblade cannot be attached to a left spin launcher. Not my fault if you can't clarify the rules.
Arupaeo, for me, just 'appeared'; as was mentioned, we need to see more posts. And if ControL_ looks at some interactions he had with other members a few months ago, he might find why he was not made an Advanced Forum yet.
And seriously, you first asked me in a full sentence why we do not tell th!nk what he needs to work on, and your only response is that you totally ignore how I tell you that we did tell him, just to highlight the rest ? Are you going to point every 'mistake' until there is absolutely none left, without even acknowledging what we do right ?
Are you talking about what I do, or what the rest of the Committee does ? Because for certain I go in chronological order, and that is what I have written. If somehow I missed one of his tournaments, then I really accidentally missed it, but I went through several pages of the Official Events forum to make a list of unprocessed events.
As a judge, what should have been thought is this order :
- Once a Beyblade is attached to a/the Launcher, it must be used for the duration of the Beybattle.
- Basalt cannot be used on a left-spin launcher/left-spin prongs.
- Automatic disqualification, or, more kindly, a penalty and the person has to choose another Beyblade.
Plus, Bluezee does not even accept if the match is just voided, when I asked him.
By definition ? "To fasten, secure, or join" : "join", which is also unclear.