(May. 16, 2021 1:42 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 16, 2021 12:14 PM)Dracieleone Wrote: [ -> ]Takara TOMY does have a bit of a western presence with the TOMY name. Their Thomas trains was super popular, they had the license to distribute Pokémon figures(including their own Moncole stuff), and just last year, they started selling their Tomica cars in western stores. If they wanted to, they could cut ties from Hasbro, and sell the beys, themselves. Additionally, they also own ERTL, in case they need another western hand.
Sure, i know TT is not unknown to the western countries. That's even worse, if you know what i mean. I don't understand why they keep selling Hasbro trash stuff then, if they could sell their own products in Europe or USA or name a country of your choice.
Could be an older contractual obligation arranged at the beginning of the Burst line, could be too expensive to produce them here, could be that Hasbro has convinced TT that they know what western audiences want and are fulfilling their needs well. There's a lot of possibilities.
(May. 16, 2021 2:22 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 16, 2021 1:42 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, i know TT is not unknown to the western countries. That's even worse, if you know what i mean. I don't understand why they keep selling Hasbro trash stuff then, if they could sell their own products in Europe or USA or name a country of your choice.
Could be an older contractual obligation arranged at the beginning of the Burst line, could be too expensive to produce them here, could be that Hasbro has convinced TT that they know what western audiences want and are fulfilling their needs well. There's a lot of possibilities.
Yeah, absolutely. We haven't an exact reason.
(May. 16, 2021 1:42 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 16, 2021 12:14 PM)Dracieleone Wrote: [ -> ]Takara TOMY does have a bit of a western presence with the TOMY name. Their Thomas trains was super popular, they had the license to distribute Pokémon figures(including their own Moncole stuff), and just last year, they started selling their Tomica cars in western stores. If they wanted to, they could cut ties from Hasbro, and sell the beys, themselves. Additionally, they also own ERTL, in case they need another western hand.
Sure, i know TT is not unknown to the western countries. That's even worse, if you know what i mean. I don't understand why they keep selling Hasbro trash stuff then, if they could sell their own products in Europe or USA or name a country of your choice.
It’s quite simple. Hasbro is big in the toys industry and back then TT wasn’t the most popular but popular enough. In order to boost the sales of beyblade give the rights to Hasbro who can better advertise it and bring people into the game. As more people get into the game via Hasbro they will look to sites like this and other beytubers who make videos on the TT which ultimately means that they will buy the TT in the future since these beytubers are saying go and get this product made by TT. Also I’m going to ignore the part about Hasbro’s products being trash.
(May. 16, 2021 8:19 PM)originalzankye Wrote: [ -> ]
I mean. . .
I like the colour of 2D. No disc or frame have that neon pink. . .
Kudos to Hasbro for not being pink-phobic anymore?
That's it.
Upon watching mah man Zankyes video, all i can say is: Vexing Wall? More like Vexing Fail!
On the positive, at least Mobius has the Free Spin so I guess that somewhat confirms Drift will have it too, cool i guess.
2D-D looks cool too i guess.
(May. 16, 2021 8:24 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 16, 2021 1:42 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, i know TT is not unknown to the western countries. That's even worse, if you know what i mean. I don't understand why they keep selling Hasbro trash stuff then, if they could sell their own products in Europe or USA or name a country of your choice.
It’s quite simple. Hasbro is big in the toys industry and back then TT wasn’t the most popular but popular enough. In order to boost the sales of beyblade give the rights to Hasbro who can better advertise it and bring people into the game. As more people get into the game via Hasbro they will look to sites like this and other beytubers who make videos on the TT which ultimately means that they will buy the TT in the future since these beytubers are saying go and get this product made by TT. Also I’m going to ignore the part about Hasbro’s products being trash.
Hasbro products are trash since they decided to make 2 different lines of beyblades, both have their own issues. Why don't they keep on doing JUST ONE but flawless? You get what i mean? Pro series should be the chosen one, if it was just about Pro Series WITH SLOPES and good plastic nobody would complain. Little by little, releasing all the best TTs with Hasbro usual features (slopes instead of teeth is the main peculiarity) and giving up on Surge speedstorm is by far the best decision for me.
(May. 16, 2021 9:06 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 16, 2021 8:24 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]It’s quite simple. Hasbro is big in the toys industry and back then TT wasn’t the most popular but popular enough. In order to boost the sales of beyblade give the rights to Hasbro who can better advertise it and bring people into the game. As more people get into the game via Hasbro they will look to sites like this and other beytubers who make videos on the TT which ultimately means that they will buy the TT in the future since these beytubers are saying go and get this product made by TT. Also I’m going to ignore the part about Hasbro’s products being trash.
Hasbro products are trash since they decided to make 2 different lines of beyblades, both have their own issues. Why don't they keep on doing JUST ONE but flawless? You get what i mean? Pro series should be the chosen one, if it was just about Pro Series WITH SLOPES and good plastic nobody would complain. Little by little, releasing all the best TTs with Hasbro usual features (slopes instead of teeth is the main peculiarity) and giving up on Surge speedstorm is by far the best decision for me.
If you want TT then buy TT. Let Hasbro do their own thing and stop hating on it because it’s not the TT.
(May. 16, 2021 9:21 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 16, 2021 9:06 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: [ -> ]Hasbro products are trash since they decided to make 2 different lines of beyblades, both have their own issues. Why don't they keep on doing JUST ONE but flawless? You get what i mean? Pro series should be the chosen one, if it was just about Pro Series WITH SLOPES and good plastic nobody would complain. Little by little, releasing all the best TTs with Hasbro usual features (slopes instead of teeth is the main peculiarity) and giving up on Surge speedstorm is by far the best decision for me.
If you want TT then buy TT. Let Hasbro do their own thing and stop hating on it because it’s not the TT.
Oh no, i don't hate Hasbro. I just don't agree with what they've done in the past few years, but absolutely no hate on Hasbro.
(May. 16, 2021 9:06 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: [ -> ]Hasbro products are trash since they decided to make 2 different lines of beyblades,
Hasbro's Burst beys have been inferior to Takara TOMY's stuff since the beginning. The original single and dual layers were more prone to denting, cracking, and breaking, questionable slope choices for certain layers, you couldn't customize god chips without taking the layer apart for Evolution, removing the metal from the Cho-Z beys and not releasing level chips, molding the layer weights into the GT beys, and we still don't have proper launcher grips. However, the worst thing they ever did was remove 2/3 of cross-compatibility with Takara TOMY parts. It wouldn't even have been that difficult to implement. They could've just shortened the lips underneath the slopes and they wouldn't have needed to deepen the "wells" on the drivers. This had never been an issue, before. No matter what decisions Hasbro made(yes, even when they botched Metal Fury), they always maintained cross-compatibility. If you were building a combo that wanted to look as good as it functioned, you could import, and use a combination of both Hasbro and Takara TOMY parts to build your dream combo, and truly make it unique. Customization has always been a cornerstone in the franchise, and the consumer has always had plenty of options to screw around with, but I guess that's too much to ask for Burst.
(May. 16, 2021 10:12 PM)Dracieleone Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 16, 2021 9:06 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: [ -> ]Hasbro products are trash since they decided to make 2 different lines of beyblades,
Hasbro's Burst beys have been inferior to Takara TOMY's stuff since the beginning. The original single and dual layers were more prone to denting, cracking, and breaking, questionable slope choices for certain layers, you couldn't customize god chips without taking the layer apart for Evolution, removing the metal from the Cho-Z beys and not releasing level chips, molding the layer weights into the GT beys, and we still don't have proper launcher grips. However, the worst thing they ever did was remove 2/3 of cross-compatibility with Takara TOMY parts. It wouldn't even have been that difficult to implement. They could've just shortened the lips underneath the slopes and they wouldn't have needed to deepen "wells" on the drivers. This had never been an issue, before. No matter what decisions Hasbro made(yes, even when they botched Metal Fury), they always maintained cross-compatibility. If you were building a combo that wanted to look as good as it functioned, you could import, and use a combination of both Hasbro and Takara TOMY parts to build your dream combo, and truly make it unique. Customization has always been a cornerstone in the franchise, and the consumer has always had plenty of options to screw around, but I guess that's too much to ask for Burst.
Honestly.. Couldn't have said it better myself.
I've never broken a single part from a Hasbro layer, so i don't think they're that fragile at all. Metal God chips couldn't add much weight to the beys (standard plastic God chips 0.40 grams, Metal God chips 1.10 grams), so that's never been a dramatic issue. But i absolutely agree about Hasbro's downfall since Turbo.
Is that true, though? TT single layers had extremely fragile teeth and far more breakage issues in Single/Dual layers (e.g., Xeno Xcalibur and Victory Valkyrie). Hasbro had them reinforced from the get-go (while TT had to release some of their layers or reinforce them in RB/sets). Slopes being weak versus strong really depends on the Beyblade, as well. TT gave some Beyblades horrific teeth for absolutely no reason and it was boosted by them having slopes.
I hated their paint jobs, but I think the consensus is they had less breakage and lasted longer.
(May. 16, 2021 10:55 PM)KinkoUsagi Wrote: [ -> ]Is that true, though? TT single layers had extremely fragile teeth and far more breakage issues in Single/Dual layers (e.g., Xeno Xcalibur and Victory Valkyrie). Hasbro had them reinforced from the get-go (while TT had to release some of their layers or reinforce them in RB/sets). Slopes being weak versus strong really depends on the Beyblade, as well. TT gave some Beyblades horrific teeth for absolutely no reason and it was boosted by them having slopes.
I hated their paint jobs, but I think the consensus is they had less breakage and lasted longer.
Exactly, that's what i said. Maybe somebody hit the beys with a hammer before using them? Tt single and dual layers have always had breakage issues (Teeth on most part of the single layers, Storm Spriggan or Victory Valkyrie had to be reinforced several times before they were actually fixed etc...).
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(May. 16, 2021 11:46 PM)originalzankye Wrote: [ -> ]
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Your suppose to post this on beyblade videos not here I suggest that next time you don’t
(May. 16, 2021 11:49 PM)JJustice Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 16, 2021 11:46 PM)originalzankye Wrote: [ -> ]
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Your suppose to post this on beyblade videos not here I suggest that next time you don’t
I've been posting news coverage that is new related to Hasbro here for the longest time for 7 years, it has been relevant to the topic so I suggest next time you don't mini mod.
(May. 16, 2021 10:12 PM)Dracieleone Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 16, 2021 9:06 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: [ -> ]Hasbro products are trash since they decided to make 2 different lines of beyblades,
Hasbro's Burst beys have been inferior to Takara TOMY's stuff since the beginning. The original single and dual layers were more prone to denting, cracking, and breaking, questionable slope choices for certain layers, you couldn't customize god chips without taking the layer apart for Evolution, removing the metal from the Cho-Z beys and not releasing level chips, molding the layer weights into the GT beys, and we still don't have proper launcher grips. However, the worst thing they ever did was remove 2/3 of cross-compatibility with Takara TOMY parts. It wouldn't even have been that difficult to implement. They could've just shortened the lips underneath the slopes and they wouldn't have needed to deepen the "wells" on the drivers. This had never been an issue, before. No matter what decisions Hasbro made(yes, even when they botched Metal Fury), they always maintained cross-compatibility. If you were building a combo that wanted to look as good as it functioned, you could import, and use a combination of both Hasbro and Takara TOMY parts to build your dream combo, and truly make it unique. Customization has always been a cornerstone in the franchise, and the consumer has always had plenty of options to screw around with, but I guess that's too much to ask for Burst.
Cross compatibility was removed because the toy team wanted to make their style of beyblade and not TT’s. Metal from cho-z was removed due to budget (same thing for layer weights). Also they made up for metal fury by releasing hyperblades which were better than the TT for the most part. It really sounds like your hating on Hasbro for trying to be unique and unlike the TT. Why does Hasbro have to be the TT for it to be considered good?
(May. 16, 2021 11:46 PM)originalzankye Wrote: [ -> ]
news video
Where are the links?
(May. 16, 2021 11:58 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 16, 2021 10:12 PM)Dracieleone Wrote: [ -> ]Hasbro's Burst beys have been inferior to Takara TOMY's stuff since the beginning. The original single and dual layers were more prone to denting, cracking, and breaking, questionable slope choices for certain layers, you couldn't customize god chips without taking the layer apart for Evolution, removing the metal from the Cho-Z beys and not releasing level chips, molding the layer weights into the GT beys, and we still don't have proper launcher grips. However, the worst thing they ever did was remove 2/3 of cross-compatibility with Takara TOMY parts. It wouldn't even have been that difficult to implement. They could've just shortened the lips underneath the slopes and they wouldn't have needed to deepen the "wells" on the drivers. This had never been an issue, before. No matter what decisions Hasbro made(yes, even when they botched Metal Fury), they always maintained cross-compatibility. If you were building a combo that wanted to look as good as it functioned, you could import, and use a combination of both Hasbro and Takara TOMY parts to build your dream combo, and truly make it unique. Customization has always been a cornerstone in the franchise, and the consumer has always had plenty of options to screw around with, but I guess that's too much to ask for Burst.
Cross compatibility was removed because the toy team wanted to make their style of beyblade and not TT’s. Metal from cho-z was removed due to budget (same thing for layer weights). Also they made up for metal fury by releasing hyperblades which were better than the TT for the most part. It really sounds like your hating on Hasbro for trying to be unique and unlike the TT. Why does Hasbro have to be the TT for it to be considered good?
Show me your sources where you got the information that the team wanted to make it their own, and metal was removed for budget. I want an actual source and not you creating facts out of thin air for the sake of debate
Jet Wyvron was massacred. ZERO redeeming qualities for this release.
I actually don't mind Achilles? For some reason, it kind of looks nice to me. It's annoying the gimmick was removed for removable sword (and I assumed Shield would be on a different achilles) but the rest looks decent to me.
World Evo Helios was SO close to be a really nice recolour. If only it had a bit more red-violet on it
Right now, it's overwhelmed by the teal. However, I like the parts it comes with.
Why does World Evo Helios H6 have the right-side World? I thought it would be the left version.
(May. 17, 2021 12:17 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 16, 2021 11:58 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Cross compatibility was removed because the toy team wanted to make their style of beyblade and not TT’s. Metal from cho-z was removed due to budget (same thing for layer weights). Also they made up for metal fury by releasing hyperblades which were better than the TT for the most part. It really sounds like your hating on Hasbro for trying to be unique and unlike the TT. Why does Hasbro have to be the TT for it to be considered good?
Show me your sources where you got the information that the team wanted to make it their own, and metal was removed for budget. I want an actual source and not you creating facts out of thin air for the sake of debate
Well for the metal being removed for budget my source was a event back in 2019 I believe (don’t know the exact year, but it was some time back). As for the team wanting to make it their own I got from a peer who interviewed their parents (if you don’t want to believe it then you don’t have to, but I’m pretty sure that I’m telling the truth).
(May. 17, 2021 12:17 AM)KinkoUsagi Wrote: [ -> ]Jet Wyvron was massacred. ZERO redeeming qualities for this release.
I actually don't mind Achilles? For some reason, it kind of looks nice to me. It's annoying the gimmick was removed for removable sword (and I assumed Shield would be on a different achilles) but the rest looks decent to me.
World Evo Helios was SO close to be a really nice recolour. If only it had a bit more red-violet on it Right now, it's overwhelmed by the teal. However, I like the parts it comes with.
Wave 4 is just Hasbro with again repeated issues they've been on a downwards spiral for a long time now, only here or there some parts were good.
At least Wyvern kept its gimmick and I don't really care about the missing rubber as it didn't really do much anyway but holy mother of god, they really butchered the combo didn't they?
Infinite looks fine, not really surprised with how they handled the sword gimmick and I definitely won't be surprised if Dimension doesn't keep the gimmick either.
Not impressed with World Helios. To me it looks ugly as hell and its not even Left World either so thats an L, at least it has Ωuter which is a nice disk and Charge Metal-SPM which might be a good part