(Mar. 15, 2018 11:07 PM)Suzaku-X Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm, apparently Toy's R Us died. Wonder how this'll affect Hasbro?
I saw that too. It's worldwide. Here in Australia we may be last to close, but its going to happen. Maybe that's why they haven't restocked anything of late. Selling out all they have.
(Mar. 15, 2018 9:52 PM)bidinga Wrote: [ -> ]jormuntor j2 and garuda g3 are the tightest stock beys for hasbro i mean jail jormungand is TRASH but jormuntor j2 was GODLY before fafnir and garuda came out
https://www.google.com/search?safe=stric...AlYQri4IKg
ultimate reboot is called genesis reboot for hasbro uh idk if they will make it but we will pray!
I'm pretty sure Genesis Reboot is the move God Reboot because ultimate reboot comes like in episode 45.
(Mar. 15, 2018 9:52 PM)bidinga Wrote: [ -> ]jormuntor j2 and garuda g3 are the tightest stock beys for hasbro i mean jail jormungand is TRASH but jormuntor j2 was GODLY before fafnir and garuda came out
https://www.google.com/search?safe=stric...AlYQri4IKg
ultimate reboot is called genesis reboot for hasbro uh idk if they will make it but we will pray!
Genesis Reboot is the name of the special attack in the anime. Idk how you got the name of an attack confused with a part name, considering they only say the name of the Layer (ie. Genesis Valtryek, Kenetic Satomb, etc.) and do not say the name of the Discs and Tips at all in the English dub.
(Mar. 16, 2018 1:45 AM)BeyCrafter Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 15, 2018 9:52 PM)bidinga Wrote: [ -> ]jormuntor j2 and garuda g3 are the tightest stock beys for hasbro i mean jail jormungand is TRASH but jormuntor j2 was GODLY before fafnir and garuda came out
https://www.google.com/search?safe=stric...AlYQri4IKg
ultimate reboot is called genesis reboot for hasbro uh idk if they will make it but we will pray!
Genesis Reboot is the name of the special attack in the anime. Idk how you got the name of an attack confused with a part name, considering they only say the name of the Layer (ie. Genesis Valtryek, Kenetic Satomb, etc.) and do not say the name of the Discs and Tips at all in the English dub.
Actually they changed God Reboot to Genesis Reboot, They haven’t gotten to the ultimate reboot part yet
(Mar. 16, 2018 1:45 AM)BeyCrafter Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 15, 2018 9:52 PM)bidinga Wrote: [ -> ]jormuntor j2 and garuda g3 are the tightest stock beys for hasbro i mean jail jormungand is TRASH but jormuntor j2 was GODLY before fafnir and garuda came out
https://www.google.com/search?safe=stric...AlYQri4IKg
ultimate reboot is called genesis reboot for hasbro uh idk if they will make it but we will pray!
Genesis Reboot is the name of the special attack in the anime. Idk how you got the name of an attack confused with a part name, considering they only say the name of the Layer (ie. Genesis Valtryek, Kenetic Satomb, etc.) and do not say the name of the Discs and Tips at all in the English dub.
why wouldnt they talk about ultimate reboot in the english dub that doesnt make sense
(Mar. 16, 2018 4:24 AM)bidinga Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 16, 2018 1:45 AM)BeyCrafter Wrote: [ -> ]Genesis Reboot is the name of the special attack in the anime. Idk how you got the name of an attack confused with a part name, considering they only say the name of the Layer (ie. Genesis Valtryek, Kenetic Satomb, etc.) and do not say the name of the Discs and Tips at all in the English dub.
why wouldnt they talk about ultimate reboot in the english dub that doesnt make sense -_-
We're not even at Ultimate Reboot yet, that's in the late 40's. They'll talk about it for sure, but not actually say its name.
(Mar. 15, 2018 11:07 PM)Suzaku-X Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm, apparently Toy's R Us died. Wonder how this'll affect Hasbro?
Watch them cancel beyblade in th U.S.
Toys r us going under won't hurt Hasbro too much. It just means no more toys r us exclusives thank God. Also, as far as Jormuntor J2 being "godly", You do understand no two Hasbro energy layers are the same right? You might have one J2 that has a tight slope and another that's super loose. I have duplicates of many Hasbro beys. I know this for a fact. And as far as ultimate reboot goes, of course it will show up in the US dub, but Hasbro actually making it is another story.
Hello! I've been on a long hiatus but after midterms I opted to get a new beyblade, I picked up the Hasbro Chronos C3 and noticed the launcher felt better, the old one from Roktovor R3 skipped and felt terribad, looking at it the new one has a number stamped opn the bottom and the old one does not, I don't know if this has been noted before so I'm noting it here, Nice to be back and I hope y'all are doing well!
Hard to tell int he picture but the number is 73531
https://imgur.com/a/NRQbv
(Mar. 16, 2018 2:31 PM)BeyHunter_Yura Wrote: [ -> ]Toys r us going under won't hurt Hasbro too much. It just means no more toys r us exclusives thank God. Also, as far as Jormuntor J2 being "godly", You do understand no two Hasbro energy layers are the same right? You might have one J2 that has a tight slope and another that's super loose. I have duplicates of many Hasbro beys. I know this for a fact. And as far as ultimate reboot goes, of course it will show up in the US dub, but Hasbro actually making it is another story.
literally all j2 are tight but ok dude whatever makes u sleep at night
Sure, there might be some Hasbro J2 that are loose but it's most likely that they're more commonly good or tight layers, and is why many say it's "Godly".
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literally all j2 are tight but ok dude whatever makes u sleep at night
Sure ok. So you must own a couple hundred J2's and can prove me wrong then?
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(Mar. 16, 2018 6:59 PM)BeyHunter_Yura Wrote: [ -> ][quote pid='1424676' dateline='1521210883']
literally all j2 are tight but ok dude whatever makes u sleep at night
Sure ok. So you must own a couple hundred J2's and can prove me wrong then?
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let me rephrase that literally all j2 *i have seen* are tight all youtube videos about j2 are tight which is a couple hundred so yea
(Mar. 16, 2018 6:59 PM)BeyHunter_Yura Wrote: [ -> ][quote pid='1424676' dateline='1521210883']
literally all j2 are tight but ok dude whatever makes u sleep at night
Sure ok. So you must own a couple hundred J2's and can prove me wrong then?
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(Mar. 16, 2018 7:37 PM)bidinga Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 16, 2018 6:59 PM)BeyHunter_Yura Wrote: [ -> ][quote pid='1424676' dateline='1521210883']
literally all j2 are tight but ok dude whatever makes u sleep at night
Sure ok. So you must own a couple hundred J2's and can prove me wrong then?
let me rephrase that literally all j2 *i have seen* are tight all youtube videos about j2 are tight which is a couple hundred so yea
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Lol ok sure. All I know is that I have multiples of certain beys in hand, not on YouTube, and I can tell when ones tighter than the other. You're literally the only person I've seen that doesn't realize that all slopes aren't the same. Mold difference, quality control, production issues, etc all play parts in the final product. TT has the same issues.
EITHER WAY, the buff to J2 has given its shape some use and can be viable for competitive use. Even if it's tight or loose, I think we can agree that J2 is probably better than average in terms of defense. We don't need an argument over the tightness of J2s
That some products can present failures, and therefor every single other product is a failure is a pretty silly point to make or defend. Yes, we literally cannot reproduce an exact copy of a model down to an infinity accuaracy, which is why when you talk about the quality of a product you talk about the overall specs of it and what your own production is aiming for.
With this made clear, I'm sure you can agree that with the model of J2 they were going for a thicker slope for a tighter grip. That you have a faulty one doesn't mean that then entire batch is faulty and useless. That's not how production and quality control works, which is why we use tolerances, and statistics.
(Mar. 17, 2018 2:14 AM)Floriano Wrote: [ -> ]That some products can present failures, and therefor every single other product is a failure is a pretty silly point to make or defend. Yes, we literally cannot reproduce an exact copy of a model down to an infinity accuaracy, which is why when you talk about the quality of a product you talk about the overall specs of it and what your own production is aiming for.
With this made clear, I'm sure you can agree that with the model of J2 they were going for a thicker slope for a tighter grip. That you have a faulty one doesn't mean that then entire batch is faulty and useless. That's not how production and quality control works, which is why we use tolerances, and statistics.
What are you talking about? Who ever said "every single other product is a failure "? Your understanding is flawed. For the umpteenth time, not every energy layer Hasbro produces is the same. One energy layer may be tight, while another copy of the same layer, may or may not have the same amount of tension in its slope. Like I said, I have many duplicates and know from first hand experience. I'll use my two Drain Fafnir F3's as an example. The first one I bought has a good slope with a very snug fit, I've yet to see it burst in battle. F3 #2, the newer one, both are the wave 1 versions of course, has a mediocre slope with a pretty weak fit. It burst in its first test battle. Saying all versions of a layer are great because this one specific copy you have is good, or vice versa, doesn't in any way mean that they're all of the same quality. That's a pretty weak argument to make or defend.
So what you are trying tell me is that hasbro deliberately produces different molds for the same product, with different specs? Why for? If not, then what I already told you proves a good counter argument already.
(Mar. 17, 2018 6:19 AM)Floriano Wrote: [ -> ]So what you are trying tell me is that hasbro deliberately produces different molds for the same product, with different specs? Why for? If not, then what I already told you proves a good counter argument already.
The amount of molds makes no difference. If you have any knowledge of plastic injection molding you'd know that. Anyone that's ever worked in that kind of position can tell you that not every piece made by the same Mold is 100% identical. One may be a good quality part while another may have a crack or a short shot, excess flash, deformities, discoloration, etc. The smaller the piece the easier it is to miss any irregularities. Why is it so hard for you to comprehend what I'm saying?
Which is exactly what I told you. Go back to my first comment about the topic and understand it.
I understand fine. You're claiming you're making the same point as I am, however you're arguing with me and the differences in Hasbro's slopes. Somewhere you got confused about what you were talking about. If you agree that the same Mold can produce parts of varying quality then you should obviously agree that not all Hasbro's Beyblades are created equal. There's an obvious level of inconsistency between the same energy layers. Understand that, since that's what you're claiming your first point was.
Once again, while it is true that the molds won't ever be consistently good or bad, when people say a part is good, it's normally because a majority of the molds are that, and that it is seen as commonly good or commonly bad.
However, if you both want to keep discussing it, either be more civil about it or take it to Private Messages.
I don't see how we are been uncivil. Please don't confuse this argument.
What you deny to understand is that every single piece will always vary but it will always be under certain tolerances to a mold. It seems to me than you still don't understand my first argument, I completely understand it but what confuses me is you. It's impossible to make perfectly similar pieces, but the differences will still fall in line. This tolerances apply not only to plastic injection but to any other process of manufacturing. From mechanical, to other types of process. This is commonly known as standards, kept on the industry to guarantee a certain degree of quality. Simply put, the pieces are all made to certain specifications with some variability withing them.
"Simply put, the pieces are all made to certain specifications with some variability withing them."
That's exactly what I've been saying since my first post. So why are you continuing to debate me. English is clearly not your first language I'm guessing, that's where the confusion is coming from on your part. We're literally making the same point and yet you're trying to say I'm wrong. I'll leave it at that. I'm done with this conversation.
Before anyone responds by firing back, mold difference ARE a thing and it CAN affect a bey's performance. The thing about it is that the differences are almost always very slight, nothing too dramatic.
I don't think this matter needs to be debated on any longer, it has already been solved. So if you all will, lets get back on track...