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I heard how good a mold god chips are but I don't know how to get one and if I do, how do I know it's an a mold?
Pop out the God chip and check the underside, it will have a molded A7/B7/C7
You can see it underneath without popping it out
A/b/c 7 molds are the a mold chips?
No. A Mold chips are obviously the ones with A
does anyone know which beys usually comes with Mold A Chip?
I think gV comes with A1 god chip
(Jan. 12, 2018  5:48 PM)aggregor941 Wrote: [ -> ]I think gV comes with A1 god chip

Ehh thats why I guys my gV didn't had god chip in that lot lol. Any other? I think aC too has it?
(Jan. 12, 2018  6:07 PM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 12, 2018  5:48 PM)aggregor941 Wrote: [ -> ]I think gV comes with A1 god chip

Ehh thats why I guys my gV didn't had god chip in that lot lol. Any other? I think aC too has it?

I saw a video from 1234 Beyblade that said "how to make mG unburstable" or something like that, he talked about godchips and used a gV godchip, that's the reason I think it's a mold
It seems random. Some people here have said that Sieg Xcalibur has an A mold but mine has a C mold
(Jan. 12, 2018  7:27 PM)MonoDragon Wrote: [ -> ]It seems random. Some people here have said that Sieg Xcalibur has an A mold but mine has a C mold

Mine is an A2 mold
(Jan. 12, 2018  7:55 PM)aggregor941 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 12, 2018  7:27 PM)MonoDragon Wrote: [ -> ]It seems random. Some people here have said that Sieg Xcalibur has an A mold but mine has a C mold

Mine is an A2 mold

Which is why I said it seems random
(Jan. 12, 2018  7:59 PM)MonoDragon Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 12, 2018  7:55 PM)aggregor941 Wrote: [ -> ]Mine is an A2 mold

Which is why I said it seems random

Ok, I see!
If you want a an A# God Chip for sure, try to get the orange or red WBBA ones. I've seen a lot of Japanese bladers on Instagram using those on their tournament combos, and the ones I got had As on their undersides.
(Jan. 13, 2018  12:37 AM)Angry Face Wrote: [ -> ]If you want a an A# God Chip for sure, try to get the orange or red WBBA ones. I've seen a lot of Japanese bladers on Instagram using those on their tournament combos, and the ones I got had As on their undersides.

Thats what I was looking for! Thanks!

I seen those on YJA so I may get em from there
For the record, this is the correct answer (unfortunately): just keep buying God Beys until you get lucky, and make sure to test all of your God Chips with all of your God Layers so you can find what fits tightest with what.

There's no guarantee that any certain God Bey will come with a tight God Chip, and no guarantee that a God Chip with an A# production number will be tighter than a God Chip with a B# or C# production number. The whole myth that a different production number is indicative of a different mold or has any correlation with the part's performance whatsoever was debunked four years ago with Hasbro's Metal Fury Scythe, and I would very much like for it to stay dead where it belongs. Leave the phrase "A Mold God Chip" in 2017.
(Jan. 13, 2018  4:42 AM)Wombat Wrote: [ -> ]For the record, this is the correct answer (unfortunately): just keep buying God Beys until you get lucky, and make sure to test all of your God Chips with all of your God Layers so you can find what fits tightest with what.

There's no guarantee that any certain God Bey will come with a tight God Chip, and no guarantee that a God Chip with an A# production number will be tighter than a God Chip with a B# or C# production number. The whole myth that a different production number is indicative of a different mold or has any correlation with the part's performance whatsoever was debunked four years ago with Hasbro's Metal Fury Scythe, and I would very much like for it to stay dead where it belongs. Leave the phrase "A Mold God Chip" in 2017.

Okay, look man, I let this slide the first time you responded to my initial findings with your own tests, which consisted of fewer trials, contained no measurements, and were conducted using a completely different Layer, because everyone else who attempted to verify my claim subsequently was successful, so I thought you'd drop this. Since you haven't though, I guess I'll just lay it on thick.

As one of the people who took measurements of their Scythe Metal Wheels and led the charge to tear down that myth, that performance of Metal Fury Scythe molds could be differentiated by letter-number stamps on their undersides, perpetrated by Ryuzaki, I'm fully aware of the importance of collecting data to identify correlations in parts' performances. The conclusion we reached back then, based on repeated trials and measurements, was that little to no correlation existed between the mold stamps and stamina prowess, but that a correlation did exist between weight and performance in mirror matches.

This time around, I followed the exact same procedure; I conducted multiple trials (i.e. tried 11 God Chips (even more since then) on the same Layer, dF) and measured the heights of those God Chips with a digital pair of calipers. Based on my measurements and the resistance I felt in unlocking the dF Layer from various Drivers using different God Chips, I observed a noticable increase in tightness of dF combos when the God Chips used with them were those with A# codes on their undersides. The measurements I provided also indicated that there was a measurable difference in the height ranges of the A# code God Chips to those of either the B# or C# ones.

There was never any myth about mold stamps indicating differences in performance in parts until somebody made claims based on falsified data. We've since done well to rectify the damage that was done by combating those unsubstantiated claims with facts. Unlike the previous circumstance, however, the increased burst-resistance offered by A# God Chips has been supported by both physical measurements, repeated trials, and affirmed by multiple other users than yourself. While it's true that letter-number codes of different factory molds are typically not indicative of any worthwhile information regarding a part's performance, there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary in this particular case, and only in this case.
Was there a difference in the numbers or is the letter the only thing that matters?
(Jan. 13, 2018  7:21 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: [ -> ]Was there a difference in the numbers or is the letter the only thing that matters?

Based on my (and most others') observations, it's just the letter that matters.
(Jan. 13, 2018  6:48 AM)Angry Face Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 13, 2018  4:42 AM)Wombat Wrote: [ -> ]For the record, this is the correct answer (unfortunately): just keep buying God Beys until you get lucky, and make sure to test all of your God Chips with all of your God Layers so you can find what fits tightest with what.

There's no guarantee that any certain God Bey will come with a tight God Chip, and no guarantee that a God Chip with an A# production number will be tighter than a God Chip with a B# or C# production number. The whole myth that a different production number is indicative of a different mold or has any correlation with the part's performance whatsoever was debunked four years ago with Hasbro's Metal Fury Scythe, and I would very much like for it to stay dead where it belongs. Leave the phrase "A Mold God Chip" in 2017.

Okay, look man, I let this slide the first time you responded to my initial findings with your own tests, which consisted of fewer trials, contained no measurements, and were conducted using a completely different Layer, because everyone else who attempted to verify my claim subsequently was successful, so I thought you'd drop this. Since you haven't though, I guess I'll just lay it on thick.

As one of the people who took measurements of their Scythe Metal Wheels and led the charge to tear down that myth, that performance of Metal Fury Scythe molds could be differentiated by letter-number stamps on their undersides, perpetrated by Ryuzaki, I'm fully aware of the importance of collecting data to identify correlations in parts' performances. The conclusion we reached back then, based on repeated trials and measurements, was that little to no correlation existed between the mold stamps and stamina prowess, but that a correlation did exist between weight and performance in mirror matches.

This time around, I followed the exact same procedure; I conducted multiple trials (i.e. tried 11 God Chips (even more since then) on the same Layer, dF) and measured the heights of those God Chips with a digital pair of calipers. Based on my measurements and the resistance I felt in unlocking the dF Layer from various Drivers using different God Chips, I observed a noticable increase in tightness of dF combos when the God Chips used with them were those with A# codes on their undersides. The measurements I provided also indicated that there was a measurable difference in the height ranges of the A# code God Chips to those of either the B# or C# ones.

There was never any myth about mold stamps indicating differences in performance in parts until somebody made claims based on falsified data. We've since done well to rectify the damage that was done by combating those unsubstantiated claims with facts. Unlike the previous circumstance, however, the increased burst-resistance offered by A# God Chips has been supported by both physical measurements, repeated trials, and affirmed by multiple other users than yourself. While it's true that letter-number codes of different factory molds are typically not indicative of any worthwhile information regarding a part's performance, there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary in this particular case, and only in this case.

You want to try rewording that post a bit? I wasn't aware that reporting findings that didn't match up with yours was something that needed to be "let slide", or "dropped". I'm not disagreeing with you just for the sake of being stubborn, that would be stupid. I just think it's unwise to jump to conclusions that follow the majority opinion without first testing things out for yourself and encouraging others to do so as well.

Remember, while the Scythe myth may have originated from Ryuzaki/Galaxy/Crescent/Kaneki/whatever's testing, it was th!nk who was the primary culprit for perpetuating it - even though he was suspicious of it at first (and rightly so), his own testing supported it since he was getting his AA2 Scythe to win matchups his AA3 could not. Yes, it turned out that the real reason for the discrepancies between Scythe performances was weight (IIRC his AA2 Scythe was ~2g heavier than most others), but the fact remains that influential members can unintentionally use their influence to spread information that could be less than the truth.

If you need me to stoop to your level in order for you to acknowledge my findings as valid, I will - I just ordered some calipers for myself and will be posting measurements of my God Chips once they arrive, as well as conducting actual testing over Spring Break to see if the A# God Chips make combos burst less (since tightness of fit/assembly isn't very easy to measure numerically). Though, if I continue to get results that disagree with yours you'll probably just disregard as confirmation bias anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(Jan. 13, 2018  9:31 AM)Wombat Wrote: [ -> ]You want to try rewording that post a bit? I wasn't aware that reporting findings that didn't match up with yours was something that needed to be "let slide", or "dropped". I'm not disagreeing with you just for the sake of being stubborn, that would be stupid. I just think it's unwise to jump to conclusions that follow the majority opinion without first testing things out for yourself and encouraging others to do so as well.  

There's nothing wrong with being skeptical, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and multiple other reputable individuals with the ability to verify the initial observer's impression find that it's a duck, it's most likely a duck.

(Jan. 13, 2018  9:31 AM)Wombat Wrote: [ -> ]Remember, while the Scythe myth may have originated from Ryuzaki/Galaxy/Crescent/Kaneki/whatever's testing, it was th!nk who was the primary culprit for perpetuating it - even though he was suspicious of it at first (and rightly so), his own testing supported it since he was getting his AA2 Scythe to win matchups his AA3 could not. Yes, it turned out that the real reason for the discrepancies between Scythe performances was weight (IIRC his AA2 Scythe was ~2g heavier than most others), but the fact remains that influential members can unintentionally use their influence to spread information that could be less than the truth.

To be fair, nobody, not just th!nk, had any reason to not believe Ryuzaki's falsified data because there was no precedent for it; nobody had ever falsified so great a quantity of tests in the WBO's history. There were also not that many people at that time who could easily test the theory that AA2 Scythes were in some way superior to others except by those few with multiples, which led to its persistence. As I said before, that's not the case here.

(Jan. 13, 2018  9:31 AM)Wombat Wrote: [ -> ]If you need me to stoop to your level in order for you to acknowledge my findings as valid, I will - I just ordered some calipers for myself and will be posting measurements of my God Chips once they arrive, as well as conducting actual testing over Spring Break to see if the A# God Chips make combos burst less (since tightness of fit/assembly isn't very easy to measure numerically). Though, if I continue to get results that disagree with yours you'll probably just disregard as confirmation bias anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you think this new trend that's been observed is actually just a series of coincidences, like a couple members' Scythes having been made in AA2 molds and just happening to be heavier, then by all means test that theory. If stooping to my level means increasing the rigor of your tests, then there should be no reason to not discuss your findings and reevaluate the status quo if your results and the experiences of others clash with it afterward.