As of the rumor part of the thread name, what do you think the hypothetical "battery powered driver" rumor is going to be able to do? I think it will be similar to the Hasbro rc bey's tips in the sense it will increase spin. But it's just a theory, please don't kill me for having an idea...
Has anyone else noticed the blue Ace Ashura 00M. V'. on beybladevcrv.com or is it just me? How is that being released?
(Aug. 10, 2019 6:37 PM)YggdrasilWyvern Wrote: [ -> ]Has anyone else noticed the blue Ace Ashura 00M. V'. on beybladevcrv.com or is it just me? How is that being released?
FIrst time I see it, what a cool gold layer weight!
(Aug. 10, 2019 1:29 AM)Suoh sadboii Wrote: [ -> ]As of the rumor part of the thread name, what do you think the hypothetical "battery powered driver" rumor is going to be able to do? I think it will be similar to the Hasbro rc bey's tips in the sense it will increase spin. But it's just a theory, please don't kill me for having an idea...
I too think that's the case because there has been a copyright of an idea similar to the OG spin engine drivers.
(Aug. 08, 2019 4:38 PM)Spriggan 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 08, 2019 4:37 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ]They should give us one last Valkyrie but a very powerful one, just to end it on a high note.
I was just about to say that....
Yeah, we have too many of those too
(Aug. 13, 2019 3:29 PM)BeymasterLandon Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 08, 2019 4:38 PM)Spriggan 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I was just about to say that....
Yeah, we have too many of those too
YEAH? The only Valkyrie who was actually OP was Chouzetsu Valkyrie. I'll be okay with an upgrade too. Maybe a new base with metal, or a new a Gatinko Chip called Valkyrie 2 with much stronger teeth
(Aug. 13, 2019 4:05 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 13, 2019 3:29 PM)BeymasterLandon Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, we have too many of those too
YEAH? The only Valkyrie who was actually OP was Chouzetsu Valkyrie. I'll be okay with an upgrade too. Maybe a new base with metal, or a new a Gatinko Chip called Valkyrie 2 with much stronger teeth
Cho z valkyrie is/ was far from OP. IMO, none of the valkyries are OP (maybe v2 in classic format, but, that probably doesn't count due to it using dash drivers most of the time which weren't there when the layer was released).
(Aug. 13, 2019 4:28 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 13, 2019 4:05 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ]YEAH? The only Valkyrie who was actually OP was Chouzetsu Valkyrie. I'll be okay with an upgrade too. Maybe a new base with metal, or a new a Gatinko Chip called Valkyrie 2 with much stronger teeth
Cho z valkyrie is/ was far from OP. IMO, none of the valkyries are OP (maybe v2 in classic format, but, that probably doesn't count due to it using dash drivers most of the time which weren't there when the layer was released).
Far from OP how? Probably the best Cho-Z attack layer. Dead Hades has carp recoil, Cho-Z Achilles is fine but it wears down very quickly, it's comparable to Valkyrie when the wings are not open. So yeah how is Cho-Z Valkyrie not OP?
(Aug. 13, 2019 4:32 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 13, 2019 4:28 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: [ -> ]Cho z valkyrie is/ was far from OP. IMO, none of the valkyries are OP (maybe v2 in classic format, but, that probably doesn't count due to it using dash drivers most of the time which weren't there when the layer was released).
Far from OP how? Probably the best Cho-Z attack layer. Dead Hades has carp recoil, Cho-Z Achilles is fine but it wears down very quickly, it's comparable to Valkyrie when the wings are not open. So yeah how is Cho-Z Valkyrie not OP?
I don't know how you define OP. Cho-Z Valkyrie is a good attack bey, but it still have difficulty on battling with Perfect Phoenix, Cho-Z Spriggan or even Hell Salamander combos. Also, Cho-Z Achilles, Judgement Joker and Zwei Longinus sometimes can have advantages in certain cases. So of course Cho-Z Valkyrie is far from OP.
And I don't think an attack type bey can be OP in the very beginning, unless it is used for stamina like Deathsyther or Odin.
(Aug. 13, 2019 5:14 PM)CrazyAries Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 13, 2019 4:32 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ]Far from OP how? Probably the best Cho-Z attack layer. Dead Hades has carp recoil, Cho-Z Achilles is fine but it wears down very quickly, it's comparable to Valkyrie when the wings are not open. So yeah how is Cho-Z Valkyrie not OP?
I don't know how you define OP. Cho-Z Valkyrie is a good attack bey, but it still have difficulty on battling with Perfect Phoenix, Cho-Z Spriggan or even Hell Salamander combos. Also, Cho-Z Achilles, Judgement Joker and Zwei Longinus sometimes can have advantages in certain cases. So of course Cho-Z Valkyrie is far from OP.
And I don't think an attack type bey can be OP in the very beginning, unless it is used for stamina like Deathsyther or Odin.
Judgement is definitely better than Cho-Z Valkyrie. Zwei only same spin.
(Aug. 10, 2019 6:37 PM)YggdrasilWyvern Wrote: [ -> ]Has anyone else noticed the blue Ace Ashura 00M. V'. on beybladevcrv.com or is it just me? How is that being released?
I think it is wbba event exclusive.
(Aug. 13, 2019 6:20 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 13, 2019 5:14 PM)CrazyAries Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know how you define OP. Cho-Z Valkyrie is a good attack bey, but it still have difficulty on battling with Perfect Phoenix, Cho-Z Spriggan or even Hell Salamander combos. Also, Cho-Z Achilles, Judgement Joker and Zwei Longinus sometimes can have advantages in certain cases. So of course Cho-Z Valkyrie is far from OP.
And I don't think an attack type bey can be OP in the very beginning, unless it is used for stamina like Deathsyther or Odin.
Judgement is definitely better than Cho-Z Valkyrie. Zwei only same spin.
Also, while Cho z Valkyrie is not an optimized layer for attack. While ti does have the bistable wings, the wings reduce attack power,C requiring the zenith disc to have any decent attack(and zenith is not that great of a choice for much). While on the other hand, Achilles is a much better choice, due to it's aggressive shape on par or greater than Valkyrie with no unlocked wings, Achilles does not have a noticable difference in attack or shape with the wings out. Not only that, but judgement, zwei, slash, and Cho z Achilles are all better choices than that of Cho z Valkyrie. Though if one has Cho z Valkyrie, it is not a terrible choice, but there are better ones out there.
(Aug. 15, 2019 3:45 AM)Suoh sadboii Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 13, 2019 6:20 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ]Judgement is definitely better than Cho-Z Valkyrie. Zwei only same spin.
Also, while Cho z Valkyrie is not an optimized layer for attack. While ti does have the bistable wings, the wings reduce attack power,C requiring the zenith disc to have any decent attack(and zenith is not that great of a choice for much). While on the other hand, Achilles is a much better choice, due to it's aggressive shape on par or greater than Valkyrie with no unlocked wings, Achilles does not have a noticable difference in attack or shape with the wings out. Not only that, but judgement, zwei, slash, and Cho z Achilles are all better choices than that of Cho z Valkyrie. Though if one has Cho z Valkyrie, it is not a terrible choice, but there are better ones out there.
Do note that Cho-Z Valkyrie can still do some work with a medium launch on a Quick' Driver. The Blitz Disk synergizes well with 超V's shape and is also really heavy. Although it is harder to Burst an opponent when using 超V, it doesn't have to worry about getting KOed as much as Cho-Z Achilles does. Cho-Z Achilles has too much recoil, which is good against Stamina combos and Stamina/Defense hybrids, but is much worse against pure Defense Types than 超V is.
(Aug. 15, 2019 4:04 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 15, 2019 3:45 AM)Suoh sadboii Wrote: [ -> ]Also, while Cho z Valkyrie is not an optimized layer for attack. While ti does have the bistable wings, the wings reduce attack power,C requiring the zenith disc to have any decent attack(and zenith is not that great of a choice for much). While on the other hand, Achilles is a much better choice, due to it's aggressive shape on par or greater than Valkyrie with no unlocked wings, Achilles does not have a noticable difference in attack or shape with the wings out. Not only that, but judgement, zwei, slash, and Cho z Achilles are all better choices than that of Cho z Valkyrie. Though if one has Cho z Valkyrie, it is not a terrible choice, but there are better ones out there.
Do note that Cho-Z Valkyrie can still do some work with a medium launch on a Quick' Driver. The Blitz Disk synergizes well with 超V's shape and is also really heavy. Although it is harder to Burst an opponent when using 超V, it doesn't have to worry about getting KOed as much as Cho-Z Achilles does. Cho-Z Achilles has too much recoil, which is good against Stamina combos and Stamina/Defense hybrids, but is much worse against pure Defense Types than 超V is.
Cho-Z Valkyrie has a higher win ratio against Perfect Phoenix than Cho-Z Achilles. From my tests, Valkyrie has higher Burst attack while Achilles has higher Smash attack. In that sense they are both equal.
(Aug. 13, 2019 4:32 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 13, 2019 4:28 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: [ -> ]Cho z valkyrie is/ was far from OP. IMO, none of the valkyries are OP (maybe v2 in classic format, but, that probably doesn't count due to it using dash drivers most of the time which weren't there when the layer was released).
Far from OP how? Probably the best Cho-Z attack layer. Dead Hades has carp recoil, Cho-Z Achilles is fine but it wears down very quickly, it's comparable to Valkyrie when the wings are not open. So yeah how is Cho-Z Valkyrie not OP?
The fact that the contact points wear down doesn't change the fact that it is better than cho z valkyrie in terms of attack. And, I don't think dH is worse than cho z valkyrie.
(Aug. 15, 2019 7:08 AM)MGoldZeo Wrote: [ -> ]Cho-Z Valkyrie has a higher win ratio against Perfect Phoenix than Cho-Z Achilles. From my tests, Valkyrie has higher Burst attack while Achilles has higher Smash attack. In that sense they are both equal.
That's because pP is same spin as both of them and I think cho z valkyrie has better spin retention than cho z achilles. And, btw what combo did you use for both of the layers? Try out cho z achilles 0 proof destroy.
(Aug. 15, 2019 10:14 AM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 13, 2019 4:32 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ]Far from OP how? Probably the best Cho-Z attack layer. Dead Hades has carp recoil, Cho-Z Achilles is fine but it wears down very quickly, it's comparable to Valkyrie when the wings are not open. So yeah how is Cho-Z Valkyrie not OP?
The fact that the contact points wear down doesn't change the fact that it is better than cho z valkyrie in terms of attack. And, I don't think dH is worse than cho z valkyrie.
Only when the Cho-Z Wings are activated, if none of them activate they are comparable.
(Aug. 15, 2019 2:49 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 15, 2019 10:14 AM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: [ -> ]The fact that the contact points wear down doesn't change the fact that it is better than cho z valkyrie in terms of attack. And, I don't think dH is worse than cho z valkyrie.
Only when the Cho-Z Wings are activated, if none of them activate they are comparable.
But cho z achilles can be launched hard (which is an advantage in almost every situation) without worrying about having lesser attack when launched hard or being burstable when launched slowly for having better attack power like cho z valkyrie.
Guys, kinda getting off topic here?
And, let's stop talking about this debate in this thread. There is already a thread for cho z valkyrie vs achilles.
(Aug. 15, 2019 2:59 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 15, 2019 2:49 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ]Only when the Cho-Z Wings are activated, if none of them activate they are comparable.
But cho z achilles can be launched hard (which is an advantage in almost every situation) without worrying about having lesser attack when launched hard or being burstable when launched slowly for having better attack power like cho z valkyrie.
On tips like Xtreme' you wont need to launch hard.
Sorry if I’m heading into a dead subject...
But has there been more information that has been released concerning the (alleged) Odin?
The swords (with the diamond shape that Odin usually has) is on the new Union Achilles speed mode. Pretty sure it was just Achilles.