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Lots of people here believe everything (right or wrong) before confirmation. There’s evidence for both sides of the argument, but let’s not jump the gun yet. We probably only have to wait a week or 2, since if 52 is the final Burst episode they’ll probably make a big deal about it.
On the github.io site, the new Belial is fully revealed and there is supposedly an "Evil dragon" L-Gear recolor too. Still nothing on B-198 and the Br+Dr driver fusion... thing?
(Mar. 04, 2022  9:06 PM)GHero Wrote: [ -> ]Lots of people here believe everything (right or wrong) before confirmation. There’s evidence for both sides of the argument, but let’s not jump the gun yet. We probably only have to wait a week or 2, since if 52 is the final Burst episode they’ll probably make a big deal about it.

I saw a lot of evidence which show us no new season Anime but, I've never seen evidence which show us new season Anime.
(Mar. 05, 2022  4:54 PM)marutti Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 04, 2022  9:06 PM)GHero Wrote: [ -> ]Lots of people here believe everything (right or wrong) before confirmation. There’s evidence for both sides of the argument, but let’s not jump the gun yet. We probably only have to wait a week or 2, since if 52 is the final Burst episode they’ll probably make a big deal about it.

I saw a lot of evidence which show us no new season Anime but, I've never seen evidence which show us new season Anime.

There’s evidence for both sides of the argument. As I said on another thread:

“On the other hand, no anime would be horrible for marketing. It’s like making a product and running no ads for it. No manga shouldn’t effect the anime much since it mostly makes original storylines anyways, and if they wanted too they could just get a new staff members. It’s not like those 2 are the only Directors and Sakuga Animators on Earth. TT has done a no anime strategy with their Bottleman franchise, but Bottleman and Beyblade were in entirely different situations, so that doesn’t hold up well.”

Both outcomes could happen, I’m just saying we need to wait for confirmation before making any bold claims. Personally, I also think no anime is slightly more likely, but that’s just a guess. All we have for evidence on both sides is just rumours and circumstantial evidence, so as I said, I think we should just wait for confirmation.
Actually, for no anime we have Hiro Morita quitting working on burst, the manga ending, i'm pretty sure the director of the last few seasons also left or something like that, and the site giving us BU leaks saying no anime or manga (of course we should take that last one with a slight grain of salt). Meanwhile I haven't seen a single piece of evidence for there being an anime other than "advertising". May I remind you of (most of) HMS? And before you say that crashed and burned, it was also an entirely different system than before unlike BU which is just DB again.
I see the manga shouldn't effect the anime cause the anime does go on a original route. It doesnt matter cause the characters are created by the manga writer and the story is not that much different its just anime and manga have a different way to show it. When anime is based on manga whether its lously or not. If the original creater is gone 99% of the time the anime is also gone.
(Mar. 05, 2022  7:13 PM)NoNotYou Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, for no anime we have Hiro Morita quitting working on burst, the manga ending, i'm pretty sure the director of the last few seasons also left or something like that, and the site giving us BU leaks saying no anime or manga (of course we should take that last one with a slight grain of salt). Meanwhile I haven't seen a single piece of evidence for there being an anime other than "advertising". May I remind you of (most of) HMS? And before you say that crashed and burned, it was also an entirely different system than before unlike BU which is just DB again.

Im not trying to argue about what will happen, I’m just saying you guys need to stop jumping to conclusions and pretending like they’ve straight up confirmed the answer already. I’ve already talked about evidence for both sides, and frankly I’m not concerned with the result. (By the way, HMS was featured in G Revolution).

This is how misinformation spreads. All someone has to do make a semi convincing fake leak and unfortunately lots of you guys would probably take it as fact. I’m not saying this is fake, nor am I saying it’s true. I’m just saying believing everything you see on the internet is naive, especially when fake leaks have popped up plenty of times.
(Mar. 05, 2022  7:23 PM)GHero Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 05, 2022  7:13 PM)NoNotYou Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, for no anime we have Hiro Morita quitting working on burst, the manga ending, i'm pretty sure the director of the last few seasons also left or something like that, and the site giving us BU leaks saying no anime or manga (of course we should take that last one with a slight grain of salt). Meanwhile I haven't seen a single piece of evidence for there being an anime other than "advertising". May I remind you of (most of) HMS? And before you say that crashed and burned, it was also an entirely different system than before unlike BU which is just DB again.

Im not trying to argue about what will happen, I’m just saying you guys need to stop jumping to conclusions and pretending like they’ve straight up confirmed the answer already. I’ve already talked about evidence for both sides, and frankly I’m not concerned with the result. (By the way, HMS was featured in G Revolution).

This is how misinformation spreads. All someone has to do make a semi convincing fake leak and unfortunately lots of you guys would probably take it as fact. I’m not saying this is fake, nor am I saying it’s true. I’m just saying believing everything you see on the internet is naive, especially when fake leaks have popped up plenty of times.

I'm not saying there 100% won't be an anime, of course it's not confirmed yet. I was just pointing out that there's more evidence that there won't be an anime, while you're over here pretending to use educated guesses to even it out. 

And did you even read my full post? I said "take this with a slight grain of salt" to the leak one and "most of" HMS. And nowhere in there did I say it's confirmed there's no anime.

But yeah I agree that we shouldn't really argue here.
(Mar. 05, 2022  7:33 PM)NoNotYou Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 05, 2022  7:23 PM)GHero Wrote: [ -> ]Im not trying to argue about what will happen, I’m just saying you guys need to stop jumping to conclusions and pretending like they’ve straight up confirmed the answer already. I’ve already talked about evidence for both sides, and frankly I’m not concerned with the result. (By the way, HMS was featured in G Revolution).

This is how misinformation spreads. All someone has to do make a semi convincing fake leak and unfortunately lots of you guys would probably take it as fact. I’m not saying this is fake, nor am I saying it’s true. I’m just saying believing everything you see on the internet is naive, especially when fake leaks have popped up plenty of times.

I'm not saying there 100% won't be an anime, of course it's not confirmed yet. I was just pointing out that there's more evidence that there won't be an anime, while you're over here pretending to use educated guesses to even it out. 

And did you even read my full post? I said "take this with a slight grain of salt" to the leak one and "most of" HMS. And nowhere in there did I say it's confirmed there's no anime.

But yeah I agree that we shouldn't really argue here.

I also agree to stop arguing, it I just want to point up coming at an issue with different views is pretending to even out the score or whatever. I’m just thinking about the business perspective, not advertising a product properly would just be kinda strange. Also, I wasn’t addressing you in my post, sorry if it came off that way. I was already in a situation that started a few days ago when you jumped in.

I already speculated on what I think will happen anyways, I literally agree with you.
(Mar. 05, 2022  7:13 PM)NoNotYou Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, for no anime we have Hiro Morita quitting working on burst, the manga ending, i'm pretty sure the director of the last few seasons also left or something like that, and the site giving us BU leaks saying no anime or manga (of course we should take that last one with a slight grain of salt). Meanwhile I haven't seen a single piece of evidence for there being an anime other than "advertising". May I remind you of (most of) HMS? And before you say that crashed and burned, it was also an entirely different system than before unlike BU which is just DB again.

Not to mention, whenever there's been a new season in the past hasn't it usually been leaked by now? Things like plot, characters, episode names, etc? Like, between everything else you listed and the fact that there's been no leaks pertaining to the anime, I'd say it's incredibly likely (not 100% confirmed, but a very high chance) that there won't be a new anime.
Believe me, I'd be pleasantly surprised if there was, but with the way things are adding up right now, I'm more than a little doubtful.
(Mar. 05, 2022  8:59 PM)BladerGem Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 05, 2022  7:13 PM)NoNotYou Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, for no anime we have Hiro Morita quitting working on burst, the manga ending, i'm pretty sure the director of the last few seasons also left or something like that, and the site giving us BU leaks saying no anime or manga (of course we should take that last one with a slight grain of salt). Meanwhile I haven't seen a single piece of evidence for there being an anime other than "advertising". May I remind you of (most of) HMS? And before you say that crashed and burned, it was also an entirely different system than before unlike BU which is just DB again.

Not to mention, whenever there's been a new season in the past hasn't it usually been leaked by now? Things like plot, characters, episode names, etc? Like, between everything else you listed and the fact that there's been no leaks pertaining to the anime, I'd say it's incredibly likely (not 100% confirmed, but a very high chance) that there won't be a new anime.
Believe me, I'd be pleasantly surprised if there was, but with the way things are adding up right now, I'm more than a little doubtful.

Leaks are usually just Corocoro images obtained early, so it would only be characters and beys for the most part. The Corocoro with this info is usually released this month or next month. Either way it releases in around 10 days, and leaks are way closer to the release date.

The massive amount of info you’re referring to would come with an official reveal most likely, that would hypothetically take place early April.

Marutti’s leaks specifically release every 9th and 14th (JST).
(Mar. 05, 2022  7:00 PM)GHero Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 05, 2022  4:54 PM)marutti Wrote: [ -> ]I saw a lot of evidence which show us no new season Anime but, I've never seen evidence which show us new season Anime.

There’s evidence for both sides of the argument. As I said on another thread:

“On the other hand, no anime would be horrible for marketing. It’s like making a product and running no ads for it. No manga shouldn’t effect the anime much since it mostly makes original storylines anyways, and if they wanted too they could just get a new staff members. It’s not like those 2 are the only Directors and Sakuga Animators on Earth. TT has done a no anime strategy with their Bottleman franchise, but Bottleman and Beyblade were in entirely different situations, so that doesn’t hold up well.”

Both outcomes could happen, I’m just saying we need to wait for confirmation before making any bold claims. Personally, I also think no anime is slightly more likely, but that’s just a guess. All we have for evidence on both sides is just rumours and circumstantial evidence, so as I said, I think we should just wait for confirmation.

It's your opinion not evidence or proof.
Actually in Japan anyone don't watch beyblade Anime.
And making Anime is just wasting money.
In Japan anime fan and toy fan is totally defferent.
Toy fan buy toy but, don't watch anime. Anime fan watch Anime but don't buy toy.
About oversea? They don't need to take care.
90% of sells number of beyblade are in Japan.other countries are only 10%.
If they make anime for 10% it'll be defecit.

About why HMS was failure?
I played Bakuten on time. And I collected Ultimate Dragoon to end of G series.
 In that time, TT stop compatibility.
And most of people lost their interesting.
Actually HMS is biggest failure for TT.
(Mar. 06, 2022  12:07 AM)marutti Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 05, 2022  7:00 PM)GHero Wrote: [ -> ]There’s evidence for both sides of the argument. As I said on another thread:

“On the other hand, no anime would be horrible for marketing. It’s like making a product and running no ads for it. No manga shouldn’t effect the anime much since it mostly makes original storylines anyways, and if they wanted too they could just get a new staff members. It’s not like those 2 are the only Directors and Sakuga Animators on Earth. TT has done a no anime strategy with their Bottleman franchise, but Bottleman and Beyblade were in entirely different situations, so that doesn’t hold up well.”

Both outcomes could happen, I’m just saying we need to wait for confirmation before making any bold claims. Personally, I also think no anime is slightly more likely, but that’s just a guess. All we have for evidence on both sides is just rumours and circumstantial evidence, so as I said, I think we should just wait for confirmation.

It's your opinion not evidence or proof.
Actually in Japan anyone don't watch beyblade Anime.
And making Anime is just wasting money.
In Japan anime fan and toy fan is totally defferent.
Toy fan buy toy but, don't watch anime. Anime fan watch Anime but don't buy toy.
About oversea? They don't need to take care.
90% of sells number of beyblade are in Japan.other countries are only 10%.
If they make anime for 10% it'll be defecit.

About why HMS was failure?
I played Bakuten on time. And I collected Ultimate Dragoon to end of G series.
 In that time, TT stop compatibility.
And most of people lost their interesting.
Actually HMS is biggest failure for TT.

I've stated I don't want to argue, but I will respond somce I don't want to be rude.

1.I didn't bring up HMS.

2. The anime being a total waste of money must be false to an extent as least. Your logic just doesn't make sense. If Burst was doing so good with only toys, why did they bother with an anime? They could've could had the Manga only, but they felt the need to have a anime for EVERY single season, meaning they decided to make around 2x more seasons that normal. Plenty of Takara Tomy anime just have a Manga for Media, so why Beyblade?

The answers simple, it's popular enough for one. Respectfully, I can't just take your statistics at no value since it they have no source.

Pease don't feel the need to respond to me. This is going way past my original intent. All I said is that we shouldn't jump to conclusions until they release official news, but everyone took that as a challenge I guess. I just want everyone to not believe every leak without evidence, since fake ones can appear. My point was to respond to those taking this seriously, not you guys. I'm talking to the people that said they were quitting Beyblade or harming themselves because of this, just because of a rumor.
(Mar. 06, 2022  12:15 AM)GHero Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 06, 2022  12:07 AM)marutti Wrote: [ -> ]It's your opinion not evidence or proof.
Actually in Japan anyone don't watch beyblade Anime.
And making Anime is just wasting money.
In Japan anime fan and toy fan is totally defferent.
Toy fan buy toy but, don't watch anime. Anime fan watch Anime but don't buy toy.
About oversea? They don't need to take care.
90% of sells number of beyblade are in Japan.other countries are only 10%.
If they make anime for 10% it'll be defecit.

About why HMS was failure?
I played Bakuten on time. And I collected Ultimate Dragoon to end of G series.
 In that time, TT stop compatibility.
And most of people lost their interesting.
Actually HMS is biggest failure for TT.

I've stated I don't want to argue, but I will respond somce I don't want to be rude.

1.I didn't bring up HMS.

2. The anime being a total waste of money must be false to an extent as least. Your logic just doesn't make sense. If Burst was doing so good with only toys, why did they bother with an anime? They could've could had the Manga only, but they felt the need to have a anime for EVERY single season, meaning they decided to make around 2x more seasons that normal. Plenty of Takara Tomy anime just have a Manga for Media, so why Beyblade?

The answers simple, it's popular enough for one. Respectfully, I can't just take your statistics at no value since it they have no source.

Pease don't feel the need to respond to me. This is going way past my original intent. All I said is that we shouldn't jump to conclusions until they release official news, but everyone took that as a challenge I guess. I just want everyone to not believe every leak without evidence, since fake ones can appear. My point was to respond to those taking this seriously, not you guys. I'm talking to the people that said they were quitting Beyblade or harming themselves because of this, just because of a rumor.

"I just want everyone to not believe every leak without evidence"

NoNotYou: gives evidence and also said "take this with a grain of salt" when mentioning the leak source

also last I remember you're the same person who tried arguing that the hasbro criticism wasn't fair, so honestly your opinions shouldn't be taken seriously at this point.
(Mar. 06, 2022  12:26 AM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 06, 2022  12:15 AM)GHero Wrote: [ -> ]I've stated I don't want to argue, but I will respond somce I don't want to be rude.

1.I didn't bring up HMS.

2. The anime being a total waste of money must be false to an extent as least. Your logic just doesn't make sense. If Burst was doing so good with only toys, why did they bother with an anime? They could've could had the Manga only, but they felt the need to have a anime for EVERY single season, meaning they decided to make around 2x more seasons that normal. Plenty of Takara Tomy anime just have a Manga for Media, so why Beyblade?

The answers simple, it's popular enough for one. Respectfully, I can't just take your statistics at no value since it they have no source.

Pease don't feel the need to respond to me. This is going way past my original intent. All I said is that we shouldn't jump to conclusions until they release official news, but everyone took that as a challenge I guess. I just want everyone to not believe every leak without evidence, since fake ones can appear. My point was to respond to those taking this seriously, not you guys. I'm talking to the people that said they were quitting Beyblade or harming themselves because of this, just because of a rumor.

"I just want everyone to not believe every leak without evidence"

NoNotYou: gives evidence and also said "take this with a grain of salt" when mentioning the leak source

also last I remember you're the same person who tried arguing that the hasbro criticism wasn't fair, so honestly your opinions shouldn't be taken seriously at this point.

I said multiple times I wasn’t talking about you guys. In the post you responded to, I said “I'm talking to the people that said they were quitting Beyblade or harming themselves because of this, just because of a rumor.” I was addressing people like that guy that said he was gonna commit self harm, not you guys. Why is this even a debate in the first place?

I’m not even giving an opinion on what I think is going to happen, so I don’t understand your last point. Everyone here has misunderstood me for some reason.

To be clear: I was just saying that we should wait until news is officially confirmed. It’s that simple, so I don’t really get why an argument happened at all.
Actually if there isn't new season.
News will not come forever.

News doesn't come means confirmed No new season
(Mar. 06, 2022  3:21 AM)marutti Wrote: [ -> ]Actually if there isn't new season.
News will not come forever.

News doesn't come means confirmed No new season
So divine is a faker!

Someone on the fanon wiki says the images of divine are out, but I don’t see them here. Are they faked?
(Mar. 06, 2022  12:07 AM)marutti Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 05, 2022  7:00 PM)GHero Wrote: [ -> ]There’s evidence for both sides of the argument. As I said on another thread:

“On the other hand, no anime would be horrible for marketing. It’s like making a product and running no ads for it. No manga shouldn’t effect the anime much since it mostly makes original storylines anyways, and if they wanted too they could just get a new staff members. It’s not like those 2 are the only Directors and Sakuga Animators on Earth. TT has done a no anime strategy with their Bottleman franchise, but Bottleman and Beyblade were in entirely different situations, so that doesn’t hold up well.”

Both outcomes could happen, I’m just saying we need to wait for confirmation before making any bold claims. Personally, I also think no anime is slightly more likely, but that’s just a guess. All we have for evidence on both sides is just rumours and circumstantial evidence, so as I said, I think we should just wait for confirmation.

It's your opinion not evidence or proof.
Actually in Japan anyone don't watch beyblade Anime.
Kids may love it
I dunno if this is a real image of Divine, but this guy made a vid about it.

His ytber name is Freestyle Blader, and you can watch it on his new vid on his channel.

Again, i dunno if this is real.
So...is Divine fake then? If so, does that mean DB is the end of Burst? I mean, technically having corocoro leaks this early would normally not happen, and seeing the photos of Divine Belial out there, on one hand they obviously aren’t within a corocoro magazine, but on the other if this was photoshopped it would be a very convincing one since I don’t see anything that implies a photoshop aside from similarities to other Beyblade parts (like ultimate).
Given the promo image of three Beyblades in the cage in the last CoroCoro and all, there's definitely new product, and I'm pretty sure Divine is real. One of the silhouettes definitely looks like it.

It could be fake, but I doubt it. Fakes usually tend to be a lot less convincing.
(Mar. 06, 2022  12:07 AM)marutti Wrote: [ -> ]Toy fan buy toy but, don't watch anime. Anime fan watch Anime but don't buy toy.
About oversea? They don't need to take care.
90% of sells number of beyblade are in Japan.other countries are only 10%.
If they make anime for 10% it'll be defecit.

Do you have a source to back up the 90%/10% ratio? Seems kind of low for overseas sales, considering Hasbro has seen sales growth in 2021 with their Beyblades. Hasbro covers a large western market and sells hundreds of thousands of units so it's not impossible that the ratio is much lower.

It's not unheard of for Hasbro (and other western toy companies) to make their own cartoons to sell toys in their own markets. They did try to prolong the Metal Series lifespan with BeyWheelz and BeyWarriors, but that primarily failed because the toy wasn't Beyblade. While BeyWheelz and BeyWarriors didn't do that well, I could definitely see Hasbro spinning-off the Burst anime overseas and making their own low-budget animation specifically to sell more Beyblades.

If Takara Tomy won't continue the anime, I think Hasbro might do their own thing for the sake of the foreign segment.
Another thing i found interesting is that on the product listing on the github site, it said the following:

"The new regulations are only for Blade and Driver"

Basically what i'm getting from this is that for upcoming BU releases, the only new parts we're getting is just new Blades and Drivers which i would assume is just the common theme for the rest of the season.

That basically means if we get a Ragnaruk Evolution, it'll most definitely use Ragnaruk1 or if we get Bahamut, it'll just use Bahamut1. (This part is a joke, do not take it seriously!)
(Mar. 07, 2022  3:23 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: [ -> ]"The new regulations are only for Blade and Driver"

Basically what i'm getting from this is that for upcoming BU releases, the only new parts we're getting is just new Blades and Drivers which i would assume is just the common theme for the rest of the season.

It's only talking about the new Belial, not the series as a whole.
(Mar. 07, 2022  5:19 AM)TrainiacJ Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 07, 2022  3:23 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: [ -> ]"The new regulations are only for Blade and Driver"

Basically what i'm getting from this is that for upcoming BU releases, the only new parts we're getting is just new Blades and Drivers which i would assume is just the common theme for the rest of the season.

It's only talking about the new Belial, not the series as a whole.

I think he meant “season” as in the
“Product Season”.