(Sep. 15, 2021 5:11 AM)Beybladedb Wrote: [ -> ]bearing ' lock is orange cap means either these a new type of driver or just a recolor
I thought about that too, perhaps this is like semi tight lock that not as strong as the red one
I guess my prediction about Bearing' is right, Bearing' will just have a normal spring just like its hasbro counterpart.
(Sep. 13, 2021 5:34 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]What are the odds that Phenomeno Pain (name is so extra lol) is phi & hearts brother wouldnt be surprised looks like burst will know PAIN (if you get the joke you get the joke).
I mean look at his tounge (bruh).
He does have a hyde/hearts vibe though.
Since B-190 and 191 has been official announced, can admin unlock the product thread?
Wait is MDr Metal Drift?
I think there was a meme about Bearing' and Metal Drift - well there you go
Confirmed
Dynamite Belial Nexus Venture -2 ver. Gold
Roar Bahamut Karma Metal Drift -6 ver. Violet
In All In One Set
(Sep. 15, 2021 4:17 AM)WickedHero Wrote: [ -> ]
I'm having a little trouble parsing that Overdrive gimmick. Is it pretty much just a rehash of Sh/Rb/Ul, where the tip retracts with loss of rotation speed/centrifugal force, giving it more surface contact?
(Sep. 15, 2021 12:22 PM)Kaizoku Burst Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 15, 2021 4:17 AM)WickedHero Wrote: [ -> ]
I'm having a little trouble parsing that Overdrive gimmick. Is it pretty much just a rehash of Sh/Rb/Ul, where the tip retracts with loss of rotation speed/centrifugal force, giving it more surface contact?
Yep pretty much, i gues overdrive system is also count the burst stopper which is the main selling here
A translated description of All Might from Zankye's latest video:
"The flat shaft tip that rotates freely and the disc part with a bouncing function add endurance and defense to powerful attacks. Furthermore, when shooting powerfully, the shaft tip is fixed and deformed thickly, and the attack type disc integrated driver that dramatically improves mobility."
Does anyone have the website that lists all the new parts and has the descriptions of them?
(Sep. 15, 2021 12:22 PM)Kaizoku Burst Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 15, 2021 4:17 AM)WickedHero Wrote: [ -> ]
I'm having a little trouble parsing that Overdrive gimmick. Is it pretty much just a rehash of Sh/Rb/Ul, where the tip retracts with loss of rotation speed/centrifugal force, giving it more surface contact?
I am afraid not. On official site it says the tip is free spinning to improve stamina and defense, while it will be fixed and the small tip will be retracted if you launch hard enough to create a large flat tip and move faster. It didn't say anything like mid-battle change. So my understand is, soft launch = small flat tip with free-spinning gimmick so it have some stamina and defense other than just attack, hard launch = big flat tip that is fixed and moves aggressively.
(Sep. 15, 2021 3:16 PM)CrazyAries Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 15, 2021 12:22 PM)Kaizoku Burst Wrote: [ -> ]I'm having a little trouble parsing that Overdrive gimmick. Is it pretty much just a rehash of Sh/Rb/Ul, where the tip retracts with loss of rotation speed/centrifugal force, giving it more surface contact?
I am afraid not. On official site it says the tip is free spinning to improve stamina and defense, while it will be fixed and the small tip will be retracted if you launch hard enough to create a large flat tip and move faster. It didn't say anything like mid-battle change. So my understand is, soft launch = small flat tip with free-spinning gimmick so it have some stamina and defense other than just attack, hard launch = big flat tip that is fixed and moves aggressively.
I think you're right, and it seems to line up with this translation:
"The flat shaft tip that rotates freely and the disc part with a bouncing function add endurance and defense to powerful attacks. Furthermore, when shooting powerfully, the shaft tip is fixed and deformed thickly, and the attack type disc integrated driver that dramatically improves mobility."
My takes: (REMEMBER THIS IS JUST FROM WHAT I CAN SEE I DONT HAVE THE PRODUCTS SO I CANT JUDGE)
Dangerous Belial: Now THIS is how you make an evolution. From what I can see, its better than savior by a lot. It looks like it could be good but not super op meta defining. I like how you can use the previous gears and All might (heh) is kind of weird so idk what to think of it. Overall its a good 9/10
Prominence Phoenix: This is what sold me. The layer is so cool and the gimmick is pretty useful. I'm theorizing that it will be compatible with dread and revive armor but then again they might be too small. The layer and owner is hype (bro I thought I was tripping when I saw his name) but the other parts stink. tapered is ok but metal universe is less than ideal. the layer and owner carry a lot of dead weight but I think they have the muscle. 7/10
Savior Perseus: I mean the absolute opposite of phoenix. meh layer (though its nice that you can get an easy Perseus) and amazing disc and driver. Giga is Giga and bearing dash is good so that bearing actually can get some better usage (not saying that its not used a bunch). Overall a 6/10
Overall a really good value pack because it has all you need (including a launcher) and some what looks to be good competitive parts 9/10
(Sep. 15, 2021 5:09 PM)PastaSauce Wrote: [ -> ]My takes: (REMEMBER THIS IS JUST FROM WHAT I CAN SEE I DONT HAVE THE PRODUCTS SO I CANT JUDGE)
Dangerous Belial: Now THIS is how you make an evolution. From what I can see, its better than savior by a lot. It looks like it could be good but not super op meta defining. I like how you can use the previous gears and All might (heh) is kind of weird so idk what to think of it. Overall its a good 9/10
Prominence Phoenix: This is what sold me. The layer is so cool and the gimmick is pretty useful. I'm theorizing that it will be compatible with dread and revive armor but then again they might be too small. The layer and owner is hype (bro I thought I was tripping when I saw his name) but the other parts stink. tapered is ok but metal universe is less than ideal. the layer and owner carry a lot of dead weight but I think they have the muscle. 7/10
Savior Perseus: I mean the absolute opposite of phoenix. meh layer (though its nice that you can get an easy Perseus) and amazing disc and driver. Giga is Giga and bearing dash is good so that bearing actually can get some better usage (not saying that its not used a bunch). Overall a 6/10
Overall a really good value pack because it has all you need (including a launcher) and somewhat looks to be good competitive parts 9/10
bearing is nearly in every single deck in winning combinations Giga is better than over half of the combos because it doesn't scrape saviour is basically the king of right spin attack besides dangerous and Perseus is the heaviest core and has high owd
Man, the b-191 set is just amazing overall. I thought I was broke, turns out after this set release I will be broker (This set has invented a new word). I actually like everything in the b-191 set apart from metal-universe, it's the most meh thing in here. 2nd is tapered, still not sure about all might but it has a good gimmick. Hopefully all turns out well and it doesn't turn out to be like other releases *ahem* Vise Leopard, Blast Jinnius, Slash Valkyrie, Hyperion Burn, and Wizard Fafnir *ahem*, wow lots of dust around here.
(Sep. 15, 2021 5:13 PM)adamslow Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 15, 2021 2:52 PM)CrisisCrusher07 Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone have the website that lists all the new parts and has the descriptions of them?
https://beyblade.takaratomy.co.jp/parts#sectionTop
Here you go, I recommend keeping it bookmarked, that's what I do
Thank you!
So the overdrive gimmick is interesting.
And the burst stopper looks to be part of the Core.
Belial 2 might get some use in meta combos.
I'm not gonna post CoroCoro pics but there is a pic where we can see that the F-Gear, S-Gear, and L-Gear can go on it. But do any of you know if the V-Gear can potentially fit on the All Might Driver?
It can hold the v gear on
(Sep. 15, 2021 5:09 PM)PastaSauce Wrote: [ -> ]My takes: (REMEMBER THIS IS JUST FROM WHAT I CAN SEE I DONT HAVE THE PRODUCTS SO I CANT JUDGE)
Dangerous Belial: Now THIS is how you make an evolution. From what I can see, its better than savior by a lot. It looks like it could be good but not super op meta defining. I like how you can use the previous gears and All might (heh) is kind of weird so idk what to think of it. Overall its a good 9/10
Prominence Phoenix: This is what sold me. The layer is so cool and the gimmick is pretty useful. I'm theorizing that it will be compatible with dread and revive armor but then again they might be too small. The layer and owner is hype (bro I thought I was tripping when I saw his name) but the other parts stink. tapered is ok but metal universe is less than ideal. the layer and owner carry a lot of dead weight but I think they have the muscle. 7/10
Savior Perseus: I mean the absolute opposite of phoenix. meh layer (though its nice that you can get an easy Perseus) and amazing disc and driver. Giga is Giga and bearing dash is good so that bearing actually can get some better usage (not saying that its not used a bunch). Overall a 6/10
Overall a really good value pack because it has all you need (including a launcher) and some what looks to be good competitive parts 9/10
Tapered is still viable, it does not "stink".
Savior is currently a top-tier right-spin attack layer (but that might change after Dangerous), it's not "meh". How can it be 6/10 if it comes with fully meta parts?
(Sep. 20, 2021 3:14 AM)El Diablo :) Wrote: [ -> ]Beyblade burst has come a long way. And has inspired a whole new generation of people into beyblade. But beys are getting heavier and heavier. Most releases are around 70-80 grams in DB. We will definitely be going further in the 80s when dangerous belial and the later releases of the season arrive. If we were to have a new season, beys may weigh around 80 to 90 for most of the releases.
But we won't be seeing beyblade burst for much longer. The heavier a bey is, the more dangerous it becomes, and would increase the chances of injuring a person. So far, beys with 90 grams are still considered to be safe. So we may have 1 or 2 more seasons before beyblade burst is forced to stop.
But even so, that doesn't completely ensure that takara tomy will create a new season for beyblade burst. So i just wanna ask for your opinions on what you guys think, will there be a new season? (Would gladly appreciate it if you guys can send rumours , speculations and leaked info)
(Sep. 20, 2021 4:46 AM)BeybladeFanOff Wrote: [ -> ]According to an old ADK post, Beyblade will be still alive during this decade.
It is not any matter if they have more then six season, but Takara Tomy is unpredictable now, so it will suck from January to March or April until Beyblade burst Something release in corocoro. Does any body still can wait from January to March for the next season with passion? This kind of will training is really hard.
(Sep. 15, 2021 5:09 PM)PastaSauce Wrote: [ -> ]My takes: (REMEMBER THIS IS JUST FROM WHAT I CAN SEE I DONT HAVE THE PRODUCTS SO I CANT JUDGE)
Dangerous Belial: Now THIS is how you make an evolution. From what I can see, its better than savior by a lot. It looks like it could be good but not super op meta defining. I like how you can use the previous gears and All might (heh) is kind of weird so idk what to think of it. Overall its a good 9/10
Prominence Phoenix: This is what sold me. The layer is so cool and the gimmick is pretty useful. I'm theorizing that it will be compatible with dread and revive armor but then again they might be too small. The layer and owner is hype (bro I thought I was tripping when I saw his name) but the other parts stink. tapered is ok but metal universe is less than ideal. the layer and owner carry a lot of dead weight but I think they have the muscle. 7/10
Savior Perseus: I mean the absolute opposite of phoenix. meh layer (though its nice that you can get an easy Perseus) and amazing disc and driver. Giga is Giga and bearing dash is good so that bearing actually can get some better usage (not saying that its not used a bunch). Overall a 6/10
Overall a really good value pack because it has all you need (including a launcher) and some what looks to be good competitive parts 9/10
Perseus and longinus are the current heaviest cores right now. They both have metal fused onto them and are 10 grams ish, while the average core is 5 grams.
Bearing'. I dont even know what takara tomy is thinking right now. The most i can tolerate is a normal spring bearing, but a dash version of bearing? Does takara tomy still care about balancing adjustments for the meta these days? Saviour also has potential to be a good right spin attack type ring. Giga is the second best disc in the meta right now and can only be obtained through random boosters. Saviour perseus is full of competitive parts. A 6/10 is just unfair in terms of performance, i would give it a 10/10.
Prominence phoenix is going to be good. Metal universe will not be game-changing. Ball shaped tips were used in tournaments as a counter against sharp tip drivers in same spin matchups. Universe doesn't have the stamina or LAD required to beat the meta drivers. Moment is the best ball shaped tip for now in my opinion. Would be kinda sad to see stock combo phoenix losing in same spin matchups considering that same spin matchup was revive and dread phoenix's greatest strength. im ok with your 7/10 rating.
I don't like the aesthetics of dangerous belial. But i'm rating all of these in terms of performance. If you think about it, dangerous belial's gimmick is just a fusion of cho-z burst stoppers and a gt bulky driver (lacks creativity in my opinion. But because its a driver with a fused disc, i don't have high hopes for the burst resistance, my guess is that its burst resistance would be like master diabolos' ,pretty good but not the tightest, so burst resistance would still be a little concerning.
And the launcher. It has the valkyrie motif chip on it. The valkyrie chip ( i dunno wut its called), has a smaller gear than the normal db launcher chip. With an equal amount of force, a smaller gear rotates more than a bigger gear. Which means this valkyrie motif does increase launch power because of the extra rotations. So yea, its perfect for tryhards.
Overall, nice set. But i don't like it. So i won't be buying it.
(Sep. 15, 2021 5:18 PM)Beybladedb Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 15, 2021 5:09 PM)PastaSauce Wrote: [ -> ]My takes: (REMEMBER THIS IS JUST FROM WHAT I CAN SEE I DONT HAVE THE PRODUCTS SO I CANT JUDGE)
Dangerous Belial: Now THIS is how you make an evolution. From what I can see, its better than savior by a lot. It looks like it could be good but not super op meta defining. I like how you can use the previous gears and All might (heh) is kind of weird so idk what to think of it. Overall its a good 9/10
Prominence Phoenix: This is what sold me. The layer is so cool and the gimmick is pretty useful. I'm theorizing that it will be compatible with dread and revive armor but then again they might be too small. The layer and owner is hype (bro I thought I was tripping when I saw his name) but the other parts stink. tapered is ok but metal universe is less than ideal. the layer and owner carry a lot of dead weight but I think they have the muscle. 7/10
Savior Perseus: I mean the absolute opposite of phoenix. meh layer (though its nice that you can get an easy Perseus) and amazing disc and driver. Giga is Giga and bearing dash is good so that bearing actually can get some better usage (not saying that its not used a bunch). Overall a 6/10
Overall a really good value pack because it has all you need (including a launcher) and somewhat looks to be good competitive parts 9/10
bearing is nearly in every single deck in winning combinations Giga is better than over half of the combos because it doesn't scrape saviour is basically the king of right spin attack besides dangerous and Perseus is the heaviest core and has high owd
Thats not OWD. That is inwards weight distribution, the core is located at the centre of the bey, remember?
(Sep. 20, 2021 1:04 PM)El Diablo Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 15, 2021 5:09 PM)PastaSauce Wrote: [ -> ]My takes: (REMEMBER THIS IS JUST FROM WHAT I CAN SEE I DONT HAVE THE PRODUCTS SO I CANT JUDGE)
Dangerous Belial: Now THIS is how you make an evolution. From what I can see, its better than savior by a lot. It looks like it could be good but not super op meta defining. I like how you can use the previous gears and All might (heh) is kind of weird so idk what to think of it. Overall its a good 9/10
Prominence Phoenix: This is what sold me. The layer is so cool and the gimmick is pretty useful. I'm theorizing that it will be compatible with dread and revive armor but then again they might be too small. The layer and owner is hype (bro I thought I was tripping when I saw his name) but the other parts stink. tapered is ok but metal universe is less than ideal. the layer and owner carry a lot of dead weight but I think they have the muscle. 7/10
Savior Perseus: I mean the absolute opposite of phoenix. meh layer (though its nice that you can get an easy Perseus) and amazing disc and driver. Giga is Giga and bearing dash is good so that bearing actually can get some better usage (not saying that its not used a bunch). Overall a 6/10
Overall a really good value pack because it has all you need (including a launcher) and some what looks to be good competitive parts 9/10
Perseus and longinus are the current heaviest cores right now. They both have metal fused onto them and are 10 grams ish, while the average core is 5 grams.
Bearing'. I dont even know what takara tomy is thinking right now. The most i can tolerate is a normal spring bearing, but a dash version of bearing? Does takara tomy still care about balancing adjustments for the meta these days? Saviour also has potential to be a good right spin attack type ring. Giga is the second best disc in the meta right now and can only be obtained through random boosters. Saviour perseus is full of competitive parts. A 6/10 is just unfair in terms of performance, i would give it a 10/10.
Prominence phoenix is going to be good. Metal universe will not be game-changing. Ball shaped tips were used in tournaments as a counter against sharp tip drivers in same spin matchups. Universe doesn't have the stamina or LAD required to beat the meta drivers. Moment is the best ball shaped tip for now in my opinion. Would be kinda sad to see stock combo phoenix losing in same spin matchups considering that same spin matchup was revive and dread phoenix's greatest strength. im ok with your 7/10 rating.
I don't like the aesthetics of dangerous belial. But i'm rating all of these in terms of performance. If you think about it, dangerous belial's gimmick is just a fusion of cho-z burst stoppers and a gt bulky driver (lacks creativity in my opinion. But because its a driver with a fused disc, i don't have high hopes for the burst resistance, my guess is that its burst resistance would be like master diabolos' ,pretty good but not the tightest, so burst resistance would still be a little concerning.
And the launcher. It has the valkyrie motif chip on it. The valkyrie chip ( i dunno wut its called), has a smaller gear than the normal db launcher chip. With an equal amount of force, a smaller gear rotates more than a bigger gear. Which means this valkyrie motif does increase launch power because of the extra rotations. So yea, its perfect for tryhards.
Overall, nice set. But i don't like it. So i won't be buying it.
(Sep. 15, 2021 5:18 PM)Beybladedb Wrote: [ -> ]bearing is nearly in every single deck in winning combinations Giga is better than over half of the combos because it doesn't scrape saviour is basically the king of right spin attack besides dangerous and Perseus is the heaviest core and has high owd
Thats not OWD. That is inwards weight distribution, the core is located at the centre of the bey, remember?
Bearing’ has a normal spring
(Sep. 20, 2021 2:18 PM)Hellafraid Wrote: [ -> ]Bearing’ has a normal spring
Is this actually confirmed? It would still make Bearing’ more versatile, but is there info saying that it has the spring of a normal driver?