World Beyblade Organization by Fighting Spirits Inc.

Now that I have no reason to hold it a secret that I bought the new Dual Layers, here are my test results for Kaiser Kerbeus:


Kaiser Kerbeus Heavy Defense vs. Deathscyther Spread Gyro
Kaiser Kerbeus: 4 (2 OS, 2 Bursts)
Deathscyther: 6 (OS)

Kaiser Kerbeus Heavy Survive vs. Deathscyther Spread Gyro
Kaiser Kerbeus: 1 (Burst)
Deathscyther: 9 (8 OS, 1 Burst)

Kaiser Kerbeus Heavy Press vs. Deathscyther Spread Gyro
Kaiser Kerbeus: 4 (Bursts)
Deathscyther: 5 (OS)

Kaiser Kerbeus skipped two teeth on average though. It really depended on which was launched first.

Kaiser Kerbeus Heavy Xtreme vs. Deathscyther Spread Gyro
Kaiser Kerbeus: 7 (Bursts, 1 KO)
Deathscyther: 3 (OS, 1 KO-slip out)

Kaiser Kerbeus Heavy Xtreme vs. Wyvern Heavy Press
Kaiser Kerbeus: 0
Wyvern: 5 (OS)
Wyvern had skipped only two teeth on average. I realise how wrong it is to stop now since half of the test could have revealed one win or more for Kaiser Kerbeus, but whatever.



Conclusion:
Overall, Kaiser Kerbeus definitely seemed meh. In the few occasions where it seemed to do OK, it was a matter of which Beyblade had the advantage of being shot second, or obvious cases where a Stamina type should not win against an Attack type, as mediocre as it is.

Keep in mind that I was busy trying to cram as much testing for all those new parts within a few couple of hours, which is why you see only ten rounds or less. Hopefully that at least satiates you until I get the opportunity to complete the testing; it is better than the nothing that has been posted about Kaiser Kerbeus so far.

In general though, all of the Dual Layers are quite disappointing, as I mentioned elsewhere. Their teeth are not strong at all, so they give the overall impression that they unlock way more often, or they simply do not have any Stamina, Attack or Defense abilities. Kaiser Kerbeus, particularly, seemed to be hindered by the fact that two of its wings are just protruding more than all the others and the two levels created by the wings and the chain below appeared to be an ideal target for destabilisation.

I was wondering if press could have any impact as a "burster" driver?

(Apr. 18, 2016  4:02 AM)ridbladebreaker Wrote: [ -> ]I was wondering if press could have any impact as a "burster" driver?

What do you mean by this?

Thanks for the results Kai-V. Definitely agree with your overall impressions.

(Apr. 18, 2016  4:07 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: [ -> ]

(Apr. 18, 2016  4:02 AM)ridbladebreaker Wrote: [ -> ]I was wondering if press could have any impact as a "burster" driver?

What do you mean by this?

Thanks for the results Kai-V. Definitely agree with your overall impressions.

Like how spriggan is on a defensive tip or valkyrie on survive/claw

Kerbeus is intended to be a defense type and has a similar kind of design to Galman. Could it not be worth tring it against and attack type?
Or on a semi-aggro tip as mid stadium Burst attack due to its notched design?

Hm, I tried doing some Attack tests yesterday to go through the new Disks, but unfortunately I am mostly out of mint Valkyrie Layers with good teeth, and Xcalibur was no good, Wyvern just kept winning all the time and even bursting the attacker.

Well I found that D!CE's pink Valkyrie which I exchanged with him was actually still good, oddly, so here we go:


(Done in the same session as the new Disks tests posted. Valkyrie not mint at all but tight.)

Kaiser Kerbeus Gravity Defense vs. Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme
Kaiser Kerbeus: 13 (7 OS, 6 Bursts [1 Burst Priority])
Valkyrie: 7 (1 Burst, 6 KO)



Wow, what? Did we speak too soo? That looks like a top-tier Defense type to me hah. Oops.

Sure, this is the last test I am doing today, not the first, but besides a slight chip of one of Valkyrie's teeth, it does not appear significantly more worn down. Most of the occasions where Valkyrie burst was at the end when it had no stamina anymore anyway.

A difference in three rounds out of 20 is statistically insignificant I think. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Kaiser Kerbeus has roughly the same defensive potential of Wyvern, though; however, I would suspect it has less stamina.

OK, but it is still not useless hah. And I did not mention that it outclassed Wyvern at all.

Thank you for the tests, Kai-V!

I was actually playing around with a stock K2 yesterday after watching Episode 3 after hearing about the "chains spreading the energy from the hits". I did add Gravity Revolve to it, and it wasn't bad from what I saw. I will try to test K2GR tonight if I can

Yeah it seems really resistant to burst from the limited amount of playing around that I have done with it. Maybe the best for stationary defense even. It's stamina just seems pretty awful somehow. I don't really understand why though, since it's pretty round.
But yeah, definitely miles better than what I thought when I first saw that it was a Bakushin-Oh look-alike. Lol. I will do some tests too at some point. Still keeping the dual layers near mint for that purpose. Just need to find the time

I've used K2 for a while now. I can honestly say that against attack types, it's quite godly. I've tried to burst it with V2, Xcalibur, Minoboros, and O2 using different disks, quake, Xtreme, Accel, and assault. No matter what combo I use, K2 almost never bursts.
It's great against attack, but against stamina or defence itll lose all the time

Yo why are there four replies saying they knew about this but nobody ever posted test results on this in the last three weeks hahah. The community needs to know these things.

None of my 'testings' were formal, along with just using random/stock combos against K2GR.

I am actually going to do a little bit of testing right now!

Awesome, thank you hah.

I just finished up the Testings and here are the results:

Victory Valkryie Heavy Xtreme vs Kaizer Kerbeus Gravity Revolve
V2HX: Nada
K2GR: 9 OS, 1 BF

It was obvious who the winner was. Don't know if it is just that V2 is bad, K2 is great or both.

Xcalibur Force Xtreme vs Kaizer Kerbeus Gravity Revolve
XHX: 6 BF (2 Burst Priority), 1 KO
K2GR: 3 BF, 9 OS, 1 KO

K2 did good against Xcalibur, and I saw that if Xcalibur didn't have a solid hit/hitting it with the main contact point within the first few hits, it had a small chance of winning.

Kaizer Kerbeus is good, having good Defense, but only decent stamina. I don't know if I would choose this over Wyvern because of its stamina, but K2 does have great KO Defense, and decent Burst Defense.

I do not know if you have time or can just estimate your average, but what is your benchmark with Wyvern against Xcalibur?

(Apr. 22, 2016  2:27 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]I do not know if you have time or can just estimate your average, but what is your benchmark with Wyvern against Xcalibur?

Ah, I don't. I read this after I finished re-doing my V2HX tests, as I used a different Xtreme for my XHX tests. The one from my first Xcalibur is slower than my second one (the one uses on XHX), and is not one I would want to use during Competitve play.

Victory Valkryie Heavy Xtreme vs. Kaizer Kerbeus Gravity Revolve
V2HX: 1 BF, 1 KO
K2GR: 2 BF (1 Burst Priority), 6 OS

V2 did a little better here, and the Xtreme did make a difference in the results, but K2 still did better.

I will try to do Wyvern Gravity Revolve vs Xcalibur Heavy Xtreme tomorrow!

Is anyone able to do K2GR vs WGR? I know Wyvern probably has way better stamina but I'd like to see how it would turn out anyway.

I only have one Revolve.



Against stationary Attack.

The "Attack" type was always launched second, to give it a chance.

Kaiser Kerbeus Gravity Defense vs. Valkyrie Heavy Revolve
Kaiser Kerbeus: 9 (7 OS, 2 Bursts)
Valkyrie: 1 (OS)

Kaiser Kerbeus Gravity Defense vs. Valkyrie Heavy Survive
Kaiser Kerbeus: 8 (OS, 1 Burst)
Valkyrie: 2 (1 Burst, 1 OS)

Benchmark with Wyvern
Wyvern Heavy Gyro vs. Valkyrie Heavy Survive
Wyvern: 10 (OS, 2 Bursts)
Valkyrie: 0

Wyvern Gravity Defense vs. Valkyrie Heavy Survive
Wyvern: 10 (OS, 1 Burst)
Valkyrie: 0

Wyvern had skipped on average two teeth more than Kaiser Kerbeus though. All in all, I do not see how Wyvern is absolutely better against non-traditional Attack types.



Against Stamina.

Launches always alternated.

Kaiser Kerbeus Gravity Defense vs. Deathscyther Heavy Revolve
Kaiser Kerbeus: 0
Deathscyther: 5 (OS)

Wyvern Gravity Defense vs. Deathscyther Heavy Revolve
Wyvern: 4 (Bursts, 1 KO)
Deathscyther: 6 (OS, 1 Burst)

That was clearer hah. Then again though, Deathscyther had the upper hand most of the time, and mine's teeth may have been slightly worn unfortunately... So, a coin toss with Wyvern, but probably a loss with Kaiser Kerbeus unless the other Blader has a considerably weaker launch.



All that being on the table, I eagerly await others' test results too. I never get anything good with Xcalibur as opposed to Valkyrie.

Oh, thanks! I didn't need Revolve sepecifically but I figured since it was pretty much the best stamina Driver so far.

Why Defense over Press? Is it better? Or are you going to test that next?

Defence is already known to be top tier whereas Press is untested.

Here is a first to 5 points battle testing out K2HO vs VGX

K2HO was weak launched in this video to add extra defense.

Hm, perhaps a tip other than Orbit would have more grip on the stadium.