Jun. 27, 2014 11:31 PM
MSF-L Dragooon Genbull 230BSF
Concept:
It's designed to destablaoze the combo from poweful hits from above. It's done so effectively by a combination of the shape of Dragooon's heads ans BSF's aggresive movement.
Parts Choice:
MSF-L- Lessens recoil and gives outer weight distribution. This can determine whether you OS certain things or not. If you use a MSF or regular face it won't be able to OS certain things.
Genbull- To give much needed Stamina to the custom. As well as an outer weight distribution.
Dragooon- To grind your opponent with the slopes of Dragooon's heads. It did better than Balro, Girago, Killerken, and Gryph.
230- You need height to deliver powerful attack from above.
BSF- Has good aggression annd decent Stamina. And has a surprising amount of precession.
Attack Testing
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Vs. MSF Balro Balro H145R2F
DG: 11(All OS)
BB: 9(All KO)
Ties: 0
Dragooon Genbull: 55%
Defense Testing
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Vs. MSF Reviser Reviser BD145CS
DG: 9(All OS)
BB: 1(All OS)
Ties: 1
Dragooon Genbull: 90%
Vs. MSF Reviser Reviser E230CS
DG: 10(All OS)
BB: 0
Ties: 0
Dragooon Genbull: 100%
Stamina Testing:
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Vs. Duo Cancer SA165WD
DG: 9(All OS)
DC: 1(All OS)
Ties: 1
Dragooon Genbull: 90%
Vs. MSF Reviser Dragooon SA165WD
DG: 0
RD: 10(All OS)
Ties: 3
Dragooon Genbull: 0%
Vs. Duo Cnacer W145WD
DG: 10(All OS)
DC: 0
Ties: 2
Dragooon Genbull: 100%
Vs. Phantom Cancer 230D
DG: 17(3KO, 14OS)
PC: 3(All OS)
Ties: 0
Dragooon Genbull: 85%
Vs. Duo Cancer 230D
DG: 0
DC: 10
Ties: 0
Dragooon Genbull: 0%
Vs. Phantom Cancer W145WD
DG: 18(All OS)
PC: 2(All OS)
Ties: 2
Dragooon Genbull: 90%
Balance Testing:
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Vs. Phantom Cancer 90CF
DG: 10(All OS)
PC: 0(All OS)
Ties: 0
Dragooon Genbull: 100%
Vs. MSF Girago Wyvang BD145RSF
DG: 10(All OS)
GW: 10(4 KO, 6OS)
Ties: 1
Dragooon Genbull: 50%
Vs. Duo Cancer F230CF
DG: 8(All OS)
DC: 2(All OS)
Ties: 2
Dragooon Genbull: 80%
Vs.Wyvang Dragooon F230CF
DG: 0
WD: 10(All OS)
Ties: 4
Dragooon Genbull: 0%
Vs. Killerken Girago E230MB
DG: 15(3 KO, 12OS)
KG: 5(3KO, 2OS)
Ties: 3
Dragooon Genbull win percentage: 75%
Benchmark:
Duo Cancer 230MB Vs. Duo Cancer 230D
MB: 0(All OS)
D: 10(All OS)
Ties: 7
Duo Cancer 230MB Vs. Duo Cancer SA165WD
MB: 10(All OS)
WD: 0(All OS)
Ties: 5
Testing from other users:
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(Jun. 28, 2014 1:17 AM)Kuroyukihime Wrote: [ -> ]I decided to do some of the tests you did in the OP my self to compare. We had different results. I did 50 rounds for each test.
MSF-L Dragooon Genbull 230 BSF vs Duo Cancer SA165 WD
Genbull:21 (6 OS 15 KO)
Duo:29 (26 OS 3 KO)
Genbull Win Percentage:42%
MSF-L Dragooon Genbull 230 BSF vs MSF-H Balro Balro H145 RF
Genbull:7 (6 OS 1 KO)
Balro:43 (40 KO 3 OS)
Genbull Win percentage:14%
MSF-L Dragooon Genbull 230 BSF vs Duo Cancer 230 D
Genbull:12 (3 OS 9KO)
Duo:38 (36 OS 2 KO)
Genbull win percentage: 24%
Detail Results
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Detailed results to come. Duo got a few lucky KOs and Genbull had to get a KO or hope to bang it around enough for an OS, but most of the time Duo could live longer (as you see by the tests). Ill try to get the Gryph^2 E230 BSF comparisons soon.
(Jun. 29, 2014 2:32 AM)MidnightGFX Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't finish my regular testings (discluding the battle utilizing MSF-H Girago Girago BD145RF), however, I did manage to find the time to finish the comparison testings:
Note: Keep in mind that throughout all of these testings, the other Beyblades being tested with Dragoon Genbull are launched before it the first ten times, and then launched second, the next ten rounds. You should also remember that these testings are in comparison to Echizen's, as well.
MSF-L Dragoon Genbull 230BSF vs Phantom Cancer W145WD (WD used once, or twice):
Dragoon: (0 OS'S, 4 KO'S)
Cancer: (14 OS'S, 2 KO'S)
Dragoon win percentage: 20%
MSF-L Dragoon Genbull 230BSF vs MF-L Duo Cancer SA165EWD (EWD slightly used):
Dragoon: (4 OS'S, 2 KO'S)
Cancer: (14 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Dragoon win percentage: 30%
MSF-L Dragoon Genbull 230BSF vs Duo Cancer W145WD (Same WD as Phantom Cancer's testings):
Dragoon: (2 OS'S, 9 KO'S)
Cancer: (7 OS'S, 2 KO'S)
Dragoon win percentage: 55%
MSF-L Dragoon Genbull 230BSF vs MSF-H Girago Girago BD145RF (RF almost considered worn):
Dragoon: (5 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Girago: (2 OS'S, 13 KO'S)
Dragoon win percentage: 25%
MSF-L Dragoon Genbull 230BSF vs MF-L Phantom Cancer CH120GCF:
Dragoon Genbull: (2 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Phantom Cancer: (16 OS'S, 2 KO'S)
Genbull Dragoon win percentage: 10%
These tests were in comparison to Echizen's Phantom Cancer 90CF testings.
I swapped out CF to GCF, as GCF shows more potential for stall than CF, from what I know of.
I used a CH120 rather than a 90 because, since I added GCF, as well, it would start to scrape more than ever, having it be used on a low track.
I decided to include a MF-L, as it was originally used on the considerably better MF-L Phantom Cygnus 85MF.
MSF-L Dragoon Genbull 230BSF vs Phantom Cancer 230D:
Dragoon Genbull: (0 OS'S, 4 KO'S)
Phantom Cancer: (15 OS'S, 1 KO)
Dragoon Genbull win percentage: 20%
The D tip was slightly used, and should just about be considered mint.
MSF-L Dragoon Genbull 230BSF vs Duo Cancer 230D:
Dragoon Genbull: (0 OS'S, 1 KO)
Duo Cancer: (18 OS'S, 1 KO)
Dragoon Genbull win percentage: 5%
The D tip was the same slightly used one from the Phantom Cancer 230D tests above.
- MSF-L Dragoon Genbull 230BSF vs MSF-H Genbull Dragoon T125GCF:
Dragoon Genbull: (0 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Genbull Dragoon: (2 OS'S, 8 KO'S)
Dragoon Genbull win percentage: 0%
- I added a MSF-H just to contribute towards to a possible knockout. That rarely happened, however, when it did occur, adding it probably didn't contribute to the two wins whatsoever, as it really only put on two, or so grams more.
After seeing the tests with both the MF-L Phantom Cancer CH120GCF, as well as this one, it's quite clear to me that stall can kill this thing, though I should've realized that earlier, as BSF is terribly unbalanced, haha.
MSF-L Dragoon Genbull 230BSF vs MF-L Flash Pegasis GB145RF:
Dragoon Genbull: (10 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Flash Pegasis: (3 OS'S, 7 KO'S)
Dragoon Genbull win percentage: 50%
MSF-L Dragoon Genbull 230BSF vs MSF-H Reviser Killerken E230RSF:
Dragoon Genbull: (6 OS'S, 1 KO)
Reviser Killerken: (2 OS'S, 1 KO)
Dragoon Genbull win percentage: 70%
MSF-L Dragoon Genbull 230BSF vs MSF-H Killerken Dragoon BD145GF:
- I decided to do two types of ten battle testings throughout these matches. They were both ''Launched Regularly'', and ''Launched Lightly'', as they were.
Launched Regularly:
Dragoon Genbull: (0 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Killerken Dragoon: (9 OS'S, 1 KO)
Dragoon Genbull win percentage: 0%
Launched Lightly:
Dragoon Genbull: (0 OS'S, 1 KO)
Killerken Dragoon: (7 OS'S, 2 KO'S)
Dragoon Genbull win percentage: 10%
These two testings weren't surprising to me whatsoever, hah.
Not only is Killerken Dragoon a left-spin tank, though it's a spin equalizer, as well.
(Jul. 02, 2014 9:26 PM)AÉ´É¢Ê€Ê Fᴀᴄᴇ Wrote: [ -> ]Equipment: (Click to View)Launcher Rubber
Beylauncher
Red SK Attack Stadium
Conditions: (Click to View)Takara 230BSF, BD145, SA165, WD, and MF
Hasbro W145
Duo's in Stamina Mode
SA165's in Normal Mode
E230 in "Boost Mode" or upper
MB is used, but still calm
WD's slightly used (same one I used in these tests)
Testing: (Click to View)MSF-L Dragoon Genbu 230BSF vs Duo Gasher SA165WD:
- Duo Gasher always launched first
- Dragoon Genbu's launch always banked
Dragoon Genbu: 8 (5 KO, 3 OS)
Duo Gasher: 22 (1 KO, 21 OS)
Ties: 1
Dragoon Genbu Win Rate: 26.7%
MSF-L Dragoon Genbu 230BSF vs Duo Gasher W145WD:
- Duo Gasher always launched first
- Dragoon Genbu's launch always banked
Dragoon Genbu: 12 (5 KO, 7 OS)
Duo Gasher: 18 (1 KO, 17 OS)
Ties: 0
Dragoon Genbu Win Rate: 40%
MSF-L Dragoon Genbu 230BSF vs Kraken Genbu E230MB:
- Duo Gasher always launched first
- Dragoon Genbu's launch always banked
DG: 6 (3 KO, 3 OS)
KG: 24 (11 KO, 13 OS)
Ties: 0
Dragoon Genbu Win Rate: 20%
MSF-L Dragoon Genbu 230BSF vs Balro Balro BD145MF:
- Dragoon Genbu always launched first
- Balro Balro's launch always banked
DG: 11 (6 KO, 5 OS)
BB: 19 (16 KO, 3 OS)
Ties: 2
Dragoon Genbu Win Rate: 36.7%
This was really easy to knock out, even for me, due to all of Dragoon's topside/underside recoil. I can't even KO Duo Stamina this consistently, lol.
Benchmark:
(Jul. 02, 2014 2:20 AM)AÉ´É¢Ê€Ê Fᴀᴄᴇ Wrote: [ -> ]MSF-F Balro Balro BD145MF vs MSF-H Leviathan Kraken E230CS:
- Leviathan Kraken always launched first
- Balro Balro's launch always banked
BB: 5 (3 KO, 2 OS)
LK: 25 (2 KO, 23 OS)
Ties: 1
BD145 Win Rate: 16.7%
It's a little better than I expected, but I'm gonna keep playing with TH170R2F/RF Force/Force Smash Attack combos.
Videos:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=yout...2EALR7T2GQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=yout...17DpxKY8_U
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9zotUX5s0...ata_player
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=yout...aNA4u3MZTY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AWOMAMrbRZ...ata_player