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I made this using Epoxy resin, but since then I've melted them together. Great idea if you put extra weight inside the grip as it helps to get an AMAZING launch. This is a prototype for something I was planning on having in the future, which is a two part launcher with a grip pre-installed, in this case a rev up launcher. It would most likely be made out of stainless steel(Duh, my name stands for Full
Metal (Bey)Blader). If anyone knows someone who could make a CAD for this set-up you could switch the two areas on the side so instead of letting you clip them onto grips, you could let things clip onto that like it's part of the grip, then you could put the LED sight and Angle compass on as well.
If someone could help me with getting these cut or first off a CAD and a 3D printed plastic copy, that would be great. The only real issue is getting the axles and actual gears inside the launcher working, although you could then just make a shell, so you get the shell, unscrew it, put the rev up gears and tongs and what-not in it and do it like that.
Opinions?
Another idea would be to get the electric launcher and replace the inside mechanism with the rev-up's one along with adding a big weight to the bottom half. I'd prefer this idea but it would be much more difficult to replace the mechanism inside it.
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This is a project, essentially, and I need people to help get this started, because if all goes to plan, we could get CADs for all mechanisms in whatever grip and send them off to be 3D printed/machined out of metal and then there wouldn't be any having to buy carp-tons of seperate parts, it could be a one-piece thing with everything on it(minus the angle compass and LED sight)
Pretty cool idea, but you do know electronic launchers are fake, right?
It's actually better that way if you're going to melt the plastic or something, cause sometimes you don't want an original electronic launcher to be ruined... right?
I don't know how you could possibly be able to put in some Rev-up stuff in an Electronic Launcher... unless you literally remove both the Rev-up and Electronic Parts and put both inside a custom chassis. I think you should really learn how that Electronic thing works before you play with it...
Stainless Steel on a 3D printer? Im confused... but is that possible?
(Feb. 02, 2014 5:13 PM)Synth Wrote: [ -> ]It's actually better that way if you're going to melt the plastic or something, cause sometimes you don't want an original electronic launcher to be ruined... right?
I don't know how you could possibly be able to put in some Rev-up stuff in an Electronic Launcher... unless you literally remove both the Rev-up and Electronic Parts and put both inside a custom chassis. I think you should really learn how that Electronic thing works before you play with it...
Stainless Steel on a 3D printer? Im confused... but is that possible?
I don't want the electronic parts at all, I wouldn't just get a launcher. I'd buy one, scan it, take out all the circuitry and whatnot, then make it an empty chassis.
The rev-up stuff would be on its own and it would be more of a grip as opposed to its own rev-up launcher with what I think is a beypointer but am not too sure.
It seems I did confuse you, you can't 3D print metal, there would be two different options.
There would be a 3D Printed plastic chassis with all sorts of coloured plastics, screwholes and gears made, I'm just not sure about the axles and places to fit those.
There will also then, be one that will be made of metal, machined. You can't 3D print metal without having some form of >1000 degree oven/furnace attached on to it and some way to solidify it spontaneously.
Just to clarify, it's a digital launcher, not an electronic one. If that's still fake then I guess I didn't know, no.
This is one cool idea FMB! Also, if I could recall, there is already a way to do this, even without melting them together.
(Feb. 02, 2014 10:14 PM)MidnightLWBO Wrote: [ -> ]This is one cool idea FMB! Also, if I could recall, there is already a way to do this, even without melting them together.
Really?!
There's no slider on the bottom, and it really irks me since it's perfectly possible to add one.
UPDATE: All I need is someone that is able to make a 3D CAD which has holes for screws and for gears and everything else will be possible. I have estimated prices at around £20-£30 for the plastic one and around £40-£60 for the metal one, the more demand, the cheaper they'll be if this thing takes off. My local staples sell 3D printers and whatnot, I'm not going to buy one, they have a 3D printing service, but not a 3D scanning service :I
(Feb. 02, 2014 10:22 PM)FMB Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 02, 2014 10:14 PM)MidnightLWBO Wrote: [ -> ]This is one cool idea FMB! Also, if I could recall, there is already a way to do this, even without melting them together.
Really?!
There's no slider on the bottom, and it really irks me since it's perfectly possible to add one.
UPDATE: All I need is someone that is able to make a 3D CAD which has holes for screws and for gears and everything else will be possible.
Yes. Just turn around the string launcher to make the handle face you.
(Feb. 02, 2014 10:26 PM)MidnightLWBO Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 02, 2014 10:22 PM)FMB Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 02, 2014 10:14 PM)MidnightLWBO Wrote: [ -> ]This is one cool idea FMB! Also, if I could recall, there is already a way to do this, even without melting them together.
Really?!
There's no slider on the bottom, and it really irks me since it's perfectly possible to add one.
UPDATE: All I need is someone that is able to make a 3D CAD which has holes for screws and for gears and everything else will be possible.
Yes. Just turn around the string launcher to make the handle face you.
That doesn't make a difference, so I'm not sure if you're being funny or not, but that doesn't make it comfortable in your hand. Everyone has a different way of launching, this is mine and I'd like to make something out of it.
(Feb. 02, 2014 10:43 PM)FMB Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 02, 2014 10:26 PM)MidnightLWBO Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 02, 2014 10:22 PM)FMB Wrote: [ -> ]Really?!
There's no slider on the bottom, and it really irks me since it's perfectly possible to add one.
UPDATE: All I need is someone that is able to make a 3D CAD which has holes for screws and for gears and everything else will be possible.
Yes. Just turn around the string launcher to make the handle face you.
That doesn't make a difference, so I'm not sure if you're being funny or not, but that doesn't make it comfortable in your hand. Everyone has a different way of launching, this is mine and I'd like to make something out of it.
Surprisingly, I'm not trying to be funny. That's just my way of launching. And yes, from my experience, it feels pretty good in my hands.
(Feb. 02, 2014 10:48 PM)MidnightLWBO Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 02, 2014 10:43 PM)FMB Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 02, 2014 10:26 PM)MidnightLWBO Wrote: [ -> ]Yes. Just turn around the string launcher to make the handle face you.
That doesn't make a difference, so I'm not sure if you're being funny or not, but that doesn't make it comfortable in your hand. Everyone has a different way of launching, this is mine and I'd like to make something out of it.
Surprisingly, I'm not trying to be funny. That's just my way of launching. And yes, from my experience, it feels pretty good in my hands.
To each their own, I guess.
So I notice you've found Lowen93. Good move. His all-metal laser-cut launcher was really impressive. Your price estimate for a laser-cut version of your idea might be a little conservative but there's nothing wrong with paying good money for good quality. I'd really like to see this become a reality.
Some notes on the Rev-Up launcher...
This is my launcher of choice. The gear setup from the first version (blue with orange gears) is better than the second version (maroon with yellow gears) because of a slight change to the plastic ingredients of the gears. The chassis from each is identical in performance: after I made my original launcher into a left-spin version, I ported the old gears to the new chassis and observed no difference in performance at all. The new version also has a safety lip around the port for the string - which is a good addition because it protects the string handle from shattering. The B/W versions are also based on the second version - never used them.
Your problem with a laser-cut rev launcher chassis will be the spring axel. The axel is like a peg at one end and fits over a tab moulded into the chassis. This component is crucial to the design. You'd have to include an extra layer of cut metal in the chassis to replicate the shape of this tab. But then, doing so would likely mess up the interaction between the layers and the gears themselves. I can imagine it working - but you're looking at a design quite a bit more complex than just replicating the existing chassis.
3D printing is probably not an option. Even in plastic. The cost will be astronomical but more importantly, the ABS plastic is probably not going to hold the extreme force of the gears. 3D printing plastic ranges from sand-glued-together to glass-sheets-glued-together in quality but you really need something cast or injection moulded to make best use of plastic.
My feeling is you'd be better off cutting the chassis the way you want then completely rebuilding the gear system (with gears from a robot shop or similar) without using a spring. Let's face it: no one ever "revs" the launcher anyway. The spring is just to make reloading easier. Once you've got your chassis idea, check out TheMechanicPapa's launchers on this forum and on youtube to see how you might get a good gear system going.
Good luck, FMB. This is going to be wild when you make it happen!
That would be a good idea, since then we could get gear multipliers or something, and though I have taken a look at Lowen, since when has he made an all-metal launcher?
Yeah man, pays to read the whole thread sometimes. Buried in there deep. One of the reasons I don't like putting images in spoilers. The launcher I'm referring to isn't a Rev Launcher (it's a plastic-gen launcher) but it shows how your idea is entirely possible.
(Feb. 02, 2014 9:13 PM)FMB Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 02, 2014 5:13 PM)Synth Wrote: [ -> ]It's actually better that way if you're going to melt the plastic or something, cause sometimes you don't want an original electronic launcher to be ruined... right?
I don't know how you could possibly be able to put in some Rev-up stuff in an Electronic Launcher... unless you literally remove both the Rev-up and Electronic Parts and put both inside a custom chassis. I think you should really learn how that Electronic thing works before you play with it...
Stainless Steel on a 3D printer? Im confused... but is that possible?
I don't want the electronic parts at all, I wouldn't just get a launcher. I'd buy one, scan it, take out all the circuitry and whatnot, then make it an empty chassis.
The rev-up stuff would be on its own and it would be more of a grip as opposed to its own rev-up launcher with what I think is a beypointer but am not too sure.
It seems I did confuse you, you can't 3D print metal, there would be two different options.
There would be a 3D Printed plastic chassis with all sorts of coloured plastics, screwholes and gears made, I'm just not sure about the axles and places to fit those.
There will also then, be one that will be made of metal, machined. You can't 3D print metal without having some form of >1000 degree oven/furnace attached on to it and some way to solidify it spontaneously.
Just to clarify, it's a digital launcher, not an electronic one. If that's still fake then I guess I didn't know, no.
I think it's called Laser Sintering, metal in a very fine powder form is dropped onto the bed like plastic is, then it is "welded" together with a laser, but not as strong as a solid block of metal. My experience with 3D printing is where low stress prototyping is ideal but they haven't quite caught up with the strength and durability of injection moulded parts,
yet. I have come across a company in London that offers an online quoting service, upload the STL file and it tells you the cost, it's a reasonable price I think but only comes in white nylon but the quality seems there as they have specialised in it. But structurally I think printing is still a few years off from being able to replace current manufacturing methods in my opinion as it's only recently started dropping in price, atleast 3D gears would be a waste but casing not so much of an issue.
(Feb. 03, 2014 8:55 AM)FMB Wrote: [ -> ]That would be a good idea, since then we could get gear multipliers or something, and though I have taken a look at Lowen, since when has he made an all-metal launcher?
Well, kinda, here's as far as it got:
It was mainly to see if I was able to get gears laser cut as it's much cheaper than buying metal gears and machining them narrower to fit and plastic industrial gears are still plastic gears. The gear and rack worked well (and so did the cable ties for quick disassembly!) just I made my mechanism for releasing too gentle to launch as I wanted to reduce the rpm loss of launching. It was all stainless steel, bearings, the lot, and weighed around 500grams from what I remember, good proof of concept just needed developing to make it launch reliably then upgrading etc. Span fairly quick with a decent pull as it only has 8 teeth.
It's all possible
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