Jan. 02, 2014 4:58 PM
Extra thanks to Th!nk. You helped me with this buddy!
::[LTD] Wyvang Discussion::
th!nk Wrote:Wyvang is renowned in Standard and Zero G for its impressive Smash Attack as well as the fact it is the heaviest Chrome Wheel released by Takara. These key traits mean it is hurt noticeably less than many other Chrome Wheels by the loss of Synchrom in their collective transition to Limited, where it still remains among the heavier wheels, with enough weight to even do serious damage to Tall Track Defense given a suitable Crystal Wheel.
In addition to this, Wyvang has access to Dark Knight (at a cost of about 2g total combo weight compared to the heavier Right Spin Crystal Wheels) and is heavy enough to be usable with lighter tracks, most notably CH120.
Of course, Wyvang isn't without its flaws, particularly notable is the massive recoil caused by the chin of the Wyvern design on the Chrome Wheel when hitting lower opponents. This can be mitigated quite effectively by using a track which juts out in that direction, such as R145 or GB145, or using a lower track (eg CH120) to prevent access to at that angle altogether.
The other issue is its rather poor balance as a result of being a Zero G Wheel, resulting in poor Stamina even when compared to other Attack Wheels. R145 in particular can be used to either reduce this issue when oriented suitably, but even this won't let Wyvang outspin anything of note.
Overall, Wyvang is a powerful and rather versatile Attack Chrome Wheel, but also one which requires greater than normal care when choosing parts for Customization.
Fake tests' (Click to View)
Testing
My Tests:Benchmark:
MF-H Gravity Perseus R145RF (Right Spin) vs MF-H Earth Aquario 230RSF
Gravity: 10 wins (0 OS'S, 10 KO'S)
Earth: 10 wins (10 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Gravity Win Rate: 50%
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang R145RF (Crystal Up)
Orient R145 so one of its Wings sits under the hole in Wyvang.
Concept (Click to View)
Requested by th!nk: Gladiator used instead of Samurai to hopefully improve attack against taller opponents (as it's roughly equal in weight to Samurai and more aggressively designed) as well as R145 to improve Wyvang's Balance (if oriented the other way, it exaggerates the imbalance resulting in slight "hopping") and add weight.
Tests (Click to View)
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang R145RF vs MF-H Earth Aquario 230RSF
Wyvang: 12 wins (0 OS'S, 12 KO'S)
Earth: 8 wins (8 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 60%
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang R145RF vs MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF
Wyvang: 14 wins (0 OS'S, 14 KO'S)
Earth: 6 wins (6 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 70%
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang R145RF vs MF-H Earth Aquario 230CS
Wyvang: 13 wins (0 OS'S, 13 KO'S)
Earth: 7 wins (7 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 65%
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang R145RF vs MF-H Earth Aquario TH170RSF
Wyvang: 13 wins (0 OS'S, 13 KO'S)
Earth: 7 wins (7 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 65%
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang R145RF vs MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Wyvang: 8 wins (0 OS'S, 8 KO'S)
Bakushin: 12 wins (11 OS'S, 1 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 40%
Wyvang: 12 wins (0 OS'S, 12 KO'S)
Earth: 8 wins (8 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 60%
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang R145RF vs MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF
Wyvang: 14 wins (0 OS'S, 14 KO'S)
Earth: 6 wins (6 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 70%
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang R145RF vs MF-H Earth Aquario 230CS
Wyvang: 13 wins (0 OS'S, 13 KO'S)
Earth: 7 wins (7 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 65%
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang R145RF vs MF-H Earth Aquario TH170RSF
Wyvang: 13 wins (0 OS'S, 13 KO'S)
Earth: 7 wins (7 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 65%
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang R145RF vs MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Wyvang: 8 wins (0 OS'S, 8 KO'S)
Bakushin: 12 wins (11 OS'S, 1 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 40%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang R145RF (Crystal Up)
Orient R145 so one of its Wings sits under the hole in Wyvang.
Tested for comparison with Gladiator.
Tests (Click to View)
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang R145RF (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Earth Aquario 230RSF
Samurai: 12 wins (0 OS'S, 12 KO'S)
Earth: 8 wins (8 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Samurai Wyvang Win Rate: 60% vs 60% for Gladiator
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang R145RF (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF
Wyvang: 13 wins (0 OS'S, 13 KO'S)
Earth: 7 wins (7 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Samurai Win Rate: 65% vs 70% for Gladiator
Samurai: 12 wins (0 OS'S, 12 KO'S)
Earth: 8 wins (8 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Samurai Wyvang Win Rate: 60% vs 60% for Gladiator
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang R145RF (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF
Wyvang: 13 wins (0 OS'S, 13 KO'S)
Earth: 7 wins (7 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Samurai Win Rate: 65% vs 70% for Gladiator
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up)
Thread: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-MSF-Samu...Crystal-Up
Tests (Click to View)
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Earth Aquario 230RSF
Wyvang: 12 wins (0 OS'S, 12 KO'S)
Earth: 8 wins (8 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 60%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Cosmic Lynx TH170R2F
Wyvang: 14/20 (1 OS, 13 KO's)
Cosmic: 6/20 (0 OS's, 6 KO's)
Wyvang Win Rate: 70%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Beat Lynx H145R2F
Wyvang: 15/20 (0 OS's, 15 KO's)
Beat: 5/20 (3 OS's, 2 KO's)
Wyvang Win Rate: 75%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Gravity Perseus R145R2F (Left)
Wyvang: 12/20 ( 4 OS's 8 KO's)
Gravity: 8/20 (6 OS's, 2 KO's)
Wyvang Win Rate: 60%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF
Wyvang: 16/20 (3 OS's, 13 KO's)
Earth: 4/20 (4 OS's, 0 KO's)
Wyvang Win Rate: 80%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-HEarth Aquario GB145CS
Wyvang: 10/20 ( 1 OS, 9 KO'S)
Earth: 10/20 (10 OS's, 0 KO's)
Wyvang Win Rate: 50%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Wyvang: 7 wins (0 OS, 7 KO)
Bakushin: 13 wins (10 OS, 3 KO)
Wyvang Win Rate: 35%
Wyvang: 12 wins (0 OS'S, 12 KO'S)
Earth: 8 wins (8 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Wyvang Win Rate: 60%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Cosmic Lynx TH170R2F
Wyvang: 14/20 (1 OS, 13 KO's)
Cosmic: 6/20 (0 OS's, 6 KO's)
Wyvang Win Rate: 70%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Beat Lynx H145R2F
Wyvang: 15/20 (0 OS's, 15 KO's)
Beat: 5/20 (3 OS's, 2 KO's)
Wyvang Win Rate: 75%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Gravity Perseus R145R2F (Left)
Wyvang: 12/20 ( 4 OS's 8 KO's)
Gravity: 8/20 (6 OS's, 2 KO's)
Wyvang Win Rate: 60%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF
Wyvang: 16/20 (3 OS's, 13 KO's)
Earth: 4/20 (4 OS's, 0 KO's)
Wyvang Win Rate: 80%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-HEarth Aquario GB145CS
Wyvang: 10/20 ( 1 OS, 9 KO'S)
Earth: 10/20 (10 OS's, 0 KO's)
Wyvang Win Rate: 50%
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F (Crystal Up) vs MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Wyvang: 7 wins (0 OS, 7 KO)
Bakushin: 13 wins (10 OS, 3 KO)
Wyvang Win Rate: 35%
Other Users' Tests:
Coach (Click to View)
(Jan. 01, 2014 6:50 PM)Coach Wrote: [ -> ]MSF-H Samurai Wyvang (crystal mode up) GB145R2F vs. MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Wyvang: 7 wins (0 OS, 7 KO)
Bakushin: 13 wins (10 OS, 3 KO)
Wyvang Win Rate: 35%
GB145 didn't have as much problem as the R145 did with this combo but it still wasn't the greatest. Wyvang needed to hit it up out of the middle then hit it again to KO it otherwise there were recoil issues. One of Bakushins KO's actually put Wyvang up over a wall. Yet like I said if Wyvang hit it where it needed to it could send Bakushin 5 feet away from the stadium.
Quote:MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang CH120R2F vs MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Wyvang CH120: 11 wins (0 OS, 11 KO)
Bakushin: 9 wins (6 OS, 3 KO0
Wyvang CH120 win %: 55%
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang H145R2F vs MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Wyvang H145: 10 wins (0 OS, 10 KO)
Bakushin: 10 wins (9 OS, 1 KO)
Wyvang H145 win %: 50%
MSF-H Gladiator Wyvang R145R2F vs MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Wyvang R145: 8 wins (0 OS, 8 KO)
Bakushin: 12 wins (11 OS, 1 KO)
Wyvang R145 win %: 40%
From Leone19's thread, I tested for him.
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F vs. Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Wyvang GB145: 7 wins (0 OS, 7 KO)
Bakushin: 13 wins (10 OS, 3 KO)
Wyvang GB145 win %: 35%
Tri (Click to View)
(Jan. 01, 2014 7:28 PM)Tri Wrote: [ -> ]If anything, I love Archer with Wyvang the most but I did some tests with Samurai. I do like this combo!
Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F vs. Earth Aquario GB145CS
Samurai Wyvang: 12 wins (All KO)
Earth Aquario: 8 wins (All OS)
Samurai Wyvang win percentage: 60%
Samurai Wyvang GB145R2F vs. Bakushin Leone 85RSF
Samurai Wyvang: 9 wins (All KO)
Bakushin Leone: 11 wins (2 KO, 9 OS)
Samurai Wyvang win percentage: 45%
Against Bakushin, use a lower track guys! Maybe CH120 or lower.
Kaizer (Click to View)
(Jan. 01, 2014 9:13 PM)Kaizer Wrote: [ -> ]MSF-H Samurai Wyvang(Crystal Up)H145R2F VS. Burn Gasher W145WD
WS: 10(All KO)
BG: 0
Ties: 0
MSF-H Samurai Wyvang(Crystal Up)H145R2F VS. Libra(Mold 3)W145WD
WS: 14(All KO
BG: 6(1KO, 5OS)
Ties: 0
Needs Further Testing:
Other Crystal Wheels, especially Dark Knight
Other Tracks: CH120, DF105, 85
RSF setups ala MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang BD145RSF in standard.