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Quote:The brown and red F230 tracks have shown problems with ware

Ware should be wear.
Genbull isn't really providing any of the Defense on E230 combinations, so mentioning it as a significant part is a bit unnecessary (it basically just provides better balance and overall Stamina, something many wheels can do for Revizer).

I honestly think Death Cygnus F230CF/GCF should be removed from the tier list (I was the one who posted it, but TBH Duo does so much better on the setup, I wouldn't call Death a tier 1 option; actually might've forgotten to make that edit on the new tier list update...). So yah, we could add Death, but I'd like to leave it out if possible.

IIRC we're rerefraining from writing about LTD on the Beywiki at the moment, as it'll be a huge project and will likely take a long, long time, and putting anything in there now would make things confusing, so we should probably leave the Crystal Wheel section alone.

I wasn't talking juwt about Genbull ^2, actually; Revizer Genbull is a top-tier defensive setup, and it works super well. So yah, definitely not limited to Genbull Genbull there.

If we're adding Zero-G customs, I'd like to specify them somehow, but I'm not quite sure how exactly. I'll ask about that.

@N-guy with a bunch of a's and i's in some order I can't remember:

I think I changed that, didn't I?

... Oh wait, TLK's write-up was from the previous draft, haha.
On the topic of Duo and Death, I was playing around with them, handspinning one in left and launching the other normally, and honestly while Death had a slight edge, it is extremely close, so the difference is not huge. As it is, Duo is still better for spinstealing than any of the Dragooon setups anyway, so Death is completely unnecessary given Duo is much better for every other function the two are used for/going to be doing.

As for Limited, I was chatting to the V about how to do it, but now I think about it I don't think I asked about crystal wheels, and unlike older stuff they can't really be separated out from standard by saying "for its time" or whatever (though she did say that things which are exceptional in Limited could have it mentioned). We do still have a ways to go in terms of evaluating many wheels in Limited - the last couple of weeks I spent experimenting with various things definitely made that pretty clear to me (some of it is stuff we missed, others are parts that arrived too late like Metal Flat, especially paired with newer concepts like Tornado Stalling and so on.) We could look at writing about it soon but if we did, I don't think this article is one we could do that in just yet - pretty much every part in this beyblade hasn't been evaluated thoroughly enough in limited from what I've seen from playing around with them (TB might still have a place, F230, while most notable with CF/GCF isn't bad with some other stuff in right spin etc, not sure if anything I've currently tried would be really competitive but I think there's more to look into there. Genbull has a couple of uses that are *probably* competitive, and we've not really looked into Bandid though its relatively light weight isn't promising). So I would not worry about that here.
The Crystal Wheel sections would essentially all say that it can provides good X, fits best with this or that Chrome Wheel, but that Crystal Wheels are all too light to make a difference when in the presence of Synchrom and most 4D Metal Wheels probably.
Alright, I completely looked over the draft and I think this could finally be published on Beywiki except the note below. It is long overdue, we know how great Bandid Genbull F230TB is. All that would be left to do after it has been published is potentially add information about its effet in the Limited format.

The only thing that needs to be improved for certain is that it mentions a movement pattern in the TB section, yet it is never described and technically a Stamina Bottom would not make much movements, so if "movement pattern" was supposed to describe how a combination using TB could stay mostly at the same location in space despite the swaying of the stadium, it needs to be worded.

I will leave this to be commented on in the next week, but if nobody posts, it will be published.


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'''Note:''' Hasbro renamed this Beyblade ''Bandit Genbu F230TB''.

==Stone Face: Genbull==
*'''Weight:''' 1.2 grams
The sticker on this Stone Face represents a comical illustration of a turtle shell with an eye peering from the hole. Genbull is based on Genbu, or Xuan Wu, the black tortoise with a snake coiling around it in Chinese mythology.

==Chrome Wheel: Genbull==
*'''Weight:''' 30.8 grams
Sat atop a very circular base is a mostly hexagonal shape. Four straight lines, two on each side, create a design reminescent of the [[Libra DF145BS|Libra Wheel]]. Another mostly straight edge is built at the top of the Genbull Chrome Wheel, where the Crystal Wheel's orb is inserted. At the bottom, however, there is a small turtle head designed but it does not protrude that much from the overall circular shape of the real bottom of this Chrome Wheel.

Having a concentrated center of gravity, overall above-average weight, rather even weight distribution for a Chrome Wheel, and a relatively symmetrical, circular, smooth shape, Genbull has shown serious competitive use in Stamina customizations in both the Attack Type Beystadium and the Zero-G Attack Type Stadium when used with the TB and CS Bottoms and the TH170/SR200 Tracks (benefiting from TH170/SR200's optimal center of gravity), and possesses considerable defensive potential in tall/mid-height customizations as well.

Genbull's great weight and shape render it superior in the face of other competitive Stamina Metal Wheels such as Duo when used in a Zero-G Attack Type Stadium, for the sake of resisting Zero-G Attack types. Chrome Wheel combinations such as Killerken Genbull and Genbull Genbull dominate the Zero-G metagame as Stamina types go due to the reasons stated above.

This Chrome Wheel's heavy weight, smooth outer edge, and inward focused center of gravity render it a very viable choice for mid-height defensive customizations as well, even out-doing Revizer in some instances. However, Genbull has considerable Recoil from below, and as such would not be an effective selection for the bottom Chrome Wheel on an E230-based defenders.

===When used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom===
Genbull can provide very impressive Stamina when used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom, as well as noticeable defensive properties.

It has notable Stamina when paired with the Chrome Wheels Killerken and Reviser, and can also be utilized in many Defense customs with these two to provide a boost in Stamina, and as such is very competitive in terms of Stamina/Defense when used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom.

===When used as the bottom Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom===
Genbull can provide a minor boost in Spin Velocity on the bottom of a Synchrom, due to its ideal weight distribution and shape, but there is no real competitive use for it outside of spin equalization. Genbull can perform considerably better when used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom or when in Synchrom with itself in conventional Stamina/Defense customizations.

However, the one case where Genbull has shown incredible competitive ability is when used as the bottom Chrome Wheel in Dragooon Spin-Equalizers. Its low Recoil and high Stamina capabilities make it an optimal choice when using a Dragooon Spin-Equalizer, and Genbull has become top-tier in many Dragooon-Based customs. Its circular shape barely protrudes over attack points of the above Chrome Wheel, so it also adds weight evenly around the perimeter of the Synchrom.

===When used in Synchrom with itself===
Genbull is a very, very successful Stamina Chrome Wheel when used in a Synchrom with itself. Genbull Genbull has found many uses in Stamina throughout the BB-10 Attack Type BeyStadium and Zero-G Attack Type Stadium metagames, and can also be utilized effectively in mid-height defensive customs and even in Balance. This Chrome Wheel can be an extremely effective tool when paired with the right parts, and as such, has been one of the most competitively useful Chrome Wheels to be released.

===Use in Stamina Customization===
For the various reasons stated in the above paragraphs, Genbull can be utilized to extreme effect in the following Stamina customizations both in the BB-10 Attack Type Beystadium and the Zero-G Attack Type Stadium:

''Genbull Genbull SR200TB/CS''
''Genbull Genbull TH170TB''
''Genbull Genbull SA165TB/CS''

===Use in Spin-Equalization customization===
Genbull, due to its circular shape and its weight, can be utilized very effectively in the following Spin-Equalization and Tornado Staller customs that are top-tier in all competitive stadiums:

''(MSF(-H/L/M)) Genbull Dragooon F230CF/GCF''
''(MSF-H) Genbull Dragooon SA165EWD/BWD (Normal Mode)''
''Genbull Dragooon T125GCF''
''MSF-H Genbull Genbull F230CF/GCF'''

Exclusively for Zero-G, the Genbull Chrome Wheel is useful in the following Spin Equalizer:

''MSF-H Genbull Dragooon BGrin''

==Crystal Wheel: Bandid==
*'''Weight:''' 4.8 grams
A clear derivative of a "bandit", Bandid oddly does not have a design reminiscent of those characters. It vaguely illustrates some longer daggers, but it mostly complements Goreim's shape entirely: like the latter, this Crystal Wheel has block shapes with ridges in them. Its original color is green, however Bandid Genbull's release is navy blue.

As all Crystal Wheels in the Standard or Zero-G format, Bandid is heavily outclassed by the whole Synchrom possibility, and even by Metal Wheels from the Maximum Series and the 4D System. Even in the Limited Format, where it has an opportunity to be useful, other Crystal Wheels are preferred, especially Dark Knight and some heavier Crystal Wheels. Bandid should never be considered for competitive play.

==Track: Free 230==
*'''Weight:''' 4.6 grams
This Track's gimmick is that it is completely free-spinning. It is implied in its marketing that it can make the Wheel it is attached to rotate in the opposite direction to the one it was launched in, simply after a hit with another Beyblade of the same original spin. However, in practice this would both be impossible, and, due to the fact the Beyblade would momentarily be stationary as it changed directions, result in an automatic loss.
F230's core section is larger than regular Tracks such as 145 and 230 to accommodate the free-spinning mechanism, while the end of the Track bears a much larger version of the irregular structure used for the base of most Bottoms. This change in size allows a Blader to grip and stabilize part of the Track in order to securely screw a Bottom onto F230's end, which would otherwise be complex because of its free-spinning nature.


The F230 Track, although shown to be outclassed by 230 in terms of conventional stamina customizations, has shown startling potential in the field of spin-equalization when used with large and circular Bottoms like CF/GCF that make it remain upright and roll. The free-spinning shaft of F230 allows the combination using it to continue rotating after it has fallen onto the wide ridge of CF/GCF, which keeps the Metal/Chrome Wheel from touching the ground as the upper section of the Beyblade spins, providing a very prominent display of LAD capabilities.

The F230CF/GCF setup has proven to contain some of, if not the, highest Life After Death of any Track-Bottom setup ever in the Metal Fight Beyblade series, and as such is extremely useful in spin-equalizing customizations in both BB-10 or Zero-G format.

===IMPORTANT: Mold Variations===
TAKARA-TOMY released this Track in two different Beyblades, one of which was Bandid Genbull F230TB (orange). The second version of the track was released with Thief Saramanda F230SF (brown) in the BBG-26 Random Booster vol. 3. Hasbro also released this Track in the Behemoth Golem Earth Synchrom 2-Pack, with Berserker Behemoth F230TB (red), and in the Bandit Genbu F230TB Starter (orange).

The brown and red F230 Tracks, along with Hasbro's orange F230 have shown problems with wear, and the free-spinning function of the track seems to be hindered, squeaking and scraping, as opposed to the smooth, consistent free-spinning function of the Takara Tomy orange F230, which works very well when applied to spin-equalization. The worse of the four molds is Hasbro's red F230, whose internal mechanism appears to grind against itself, which means it almost requires an outside force to spin.

===Use in Spin-Equalization customization===
The F230 track, for the reasons stated above, can be utilized in the following spin-equalizing customizations if it is the TAKARA-TOMY orange mold.

''Revizer/Genbull/Killerken/Gargole Dragooon F230CF/GCF''
''Duo Cygnus/Cancer F230CF/GCF''
''Genbull Genbull F230CF/GCF''

==Bottom: Twin Ball==
*'''Weight:''' 0.7 grams
TB is simply a Wide Ball Bottom with a smaller ball at its tip. This causes it to wobble slightly.

TB has found potential in Stamina customizations in both the BB-10 Attack Type BeyStadium and the Zero-G Attack Type Stadium. Its movement pattern (what pattern ?) and increased amount of friction with the stadium floor as opposed to D-series Bottoms allows it to resist rotational Recoil more effectively than other conventional Stamina Bottoms. TB is preferred over most Bottoms for Stamina against opponents using the same spin in Zero-G stadiums due to its impressive ability to resist Zero-G Attack types, something which other popular Zero-G stamina bottoms such as BWD/W²D cannot do.

TB can be utilized very effectively when used with SR200 or TH170, allowing it to wobble at an optimal angle and take advantage of a beneficial center of gravity due to the height that naturally makes it remain on its vertical axle longer before even precessing. It also performs notably well when used with the Genbull Chrome Wheel, using its weight and its movement pattern/resistance to rotational Recoil to reduce the opponent's spin velocity by repeatedly inflicting rotational damage.

However, unlike WD or EWD, TB is relatively vulnerable to opposite-spin customizations due to its rounded shape, and one should avoid using it in an opposite-spin match-up whenever possible, as Stamina setups like W145WD are a safer pick in such a scenario to remain upright.

Despite this fact, as shown by its impressive numbers against same-spin opponents, TB is definitely a competitive Stamina part in any stadium format, and is an essential part to any Blader majoring in Stamina.

===Use in Stamina customizations===
TB, for the reasons stated above, can be utilized effectively in the following Stamina customizations, in replacement of EWD and CS.

''Genbull Genbull SR200/TH170TB''
''Duo Cancer/Cygnus/Hades SR200TB''
''Duo Cancer/Cygnus/Hades SA165TB''

===Use in Zero-G Defense customizations===
With its ability to stay balanced and in place despite the swaying movement of the stadium caused by Zero-G Attack types, TB can be a core part of the following Zero-G Defense combos:

''MSF-H Killerken Revizer E230 TB''
''MSF-H Revizer Revizer/Killerken/Genbull E230 TB''

==Other Versions==
*'''Shinobi Genbull 130W²D''' - BBG-23 Random Booster Vol. 3 Bandid Genbull F230TB (Yellow and blue stickers)

==Gallery==
<gallery>
Image:TrackF230.jpg|Free 230 Track render
Image:BottomTB.jpg|Twin Ball Bottom render
</gallery>

==Overall==
The Genbull Chrome Wheel and TB bottom are both must-have parts for bladers majoring in stamina, and F230 has extremely high LAD capabilities and serious potency when used with spin-equalizing setups. Almost every part on this Beyblade (with the exception of Bandid) is very, very competitive. '''Every seriously competitive Blader should own at least two of this Beyblade.'''

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"Revizer/Genbull/Killerken/Gargole Dragooon F230CF/GCF''
Why Gargoyle?

In the overall, "very, very" is unneeded, just say say "very".
Genbull has some use in limited format.

'''Note:''' Hasbro renamed this Beyblade ''Bandit Genbu F230CF''.
CF? It's TB. Lucky I caught that.
Eh, I think the "very, very" is good to keep in becuase it truly emphasizes how competeive the parts are in this Beyblade.
Okay, I guess... I hope this is posted soon, Kai-V/TBD needs to change that CF typo.
(Jun. 07, 2014  9:54 PM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]The only thing that needs to be improved for certain is that it mentions a movement pattern in the TB section, yet it is never described and technically a Stamina Bottom would not make much movements, so if "movement pattern" was supposed to describe how a combination using TB could stay mostly at the same location in space despite the swaying of the stadium, it needs to be worded.

Quote:[...]

==Bottom: Twin Ball==
*'''Weight:''' 0.7 grams
TB is simply a Wide Ball Bottom with a smaller ball at its tip. This causes it to wobble slightly.

[...]

Is this first sentence really accurate? In the picture below, TB is clearly much wider than WB, and its tip is actually nearly identical to that of a regular Ball Bottom.


[Image: iFxaI2m.jpg]


I don't think "TB is simply a Wide Ball Bottom with a smaller ball at its tip," more precisely "TB is simply shaped like a wide ball with a Ball Bottom at its tip." Or if we're to call it a wide ball, we shouldn't capitalize the words because then that would mean we're directly comparing it to WB, which is obviously different.

Also, since TB's area of contact is almost identical to that of a Ball Bottom's, maybe its movement pattern could be described as being identical to that of a regular Ball Bottom's, but with enhanced precession?
Hm, you are right : the initial description must have been based on vague anime screenshots. From your picture though, it still seems like the smaller ball tip is slightly larger than B.

Could you actually take this photograph with a white background ? It seems like a really good comparison to have on Beywiki.
When will this be published?

PLS SOMEONE ELSE POST
Howdy guys! Sorry I'm a little late, but I think it's time to finish this puppy off:

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| element = Earth
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'''Note:''' Hasbro renamed this Beyblade ''Bandit Genbu F230TB''.

==Stone Face: Genbull==
*'''Weight:''' 1.2 grams
The sticker on this Stone Face represents a comical illustration of a turtle shell with an eye peering from the hole. Genbull is based on Genbu, or Xuan Wu, the black tortoise with a snake coiling around it in Chinese mythology.

==Chrome Wheel: Genbull==
*'''Weight:''' 30.8 grams
Sat atop a very circular base is a mostly hexagonal shape. Four straight lines, two on each side, create a design reminescent of the [[Libra DF145BS|Libra Wheel]]. Another mostly straight edge is built at the top of the Genbull Chrome Wheel, where the Crystal Wheel's orb is inserted. At the bottom, however, there is a small turtle head designed but it does not protrude that much from the overall circular shape of the real bottom of this Chrome Wheel.

Having a distal center of gravity, overall above-average weight, rather even weight distribution for a Chrome Wheel, and a relatively symmetrical, circular, smooth shape, Genbull has shown serious competitive use in Stamina customizations in both the Attack Type Beystadium and the Zero-G Attack Type Stadium when used with the TB and CS Bottoms and the TH170/SR200 Tracks (benefiting from TH170/SR200's optimal center of gravity), and possesses considerable defensive potential in tall/mid-height customizations as well.

Genbull's great weight and shape render it superior in the face of other competitive Stamina Metal Wheels such as Duo when used in a Zero-G Attack Type Stadium, for the sake of resisting Zero-G Attack types. Chrome Wheel combinations such as Killerken Genbull and Genbull Genbull dominate the Zero-G metagame as Stamina types go due to the reasons stated above.

This Chrome Wheel's heavy weight, smooth outer edge, and inward focused center of gravity render it a very viable choice for mid-height defensive customizations as well, even out-doing Revizer in some instances. However, Genbull has considerable Recoil from below, and as such would not be an effective selection for the bottom Chrome Wheel on an E230-based defenders.

===When used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom===
Genbull can provide very impressive Stamina when used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom, as well as noticeable defensive properties.

It has notable Stamina when paired with the Chrome Wheels Killerken and Reviser, and can also be utilized in many Defense customs with these two to provide a boost in Stamina, and as such is very competitive in terms of Stamina/Defense when used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom.

===When used as the bottom Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom===
Genbull can provide a minor boost in Spin Velocity on the bottom of a Synchrom, due to its ideal weight distribution and shape, but there is no real competitive use for it outside of spin equalization. Genbull can perform considerably better when used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom or when in Synchrom with itself in conventional Stamina/Defense customizations.

However, the one case where Genbull has shown incredible competitive ability is when used as the bottom Chrome Wheel in Dragooon Spin-Equalizers. Its low Recoil and high Stamina capabilities make it an optimal choice when using a Dragooon Spin-Equalizer, and Genbull has become top-tier in many Dragooon-Based customs. Its circular shape barely protrudes over attack points of the above Chrome Wheel, so it also adds weight evenly around the perimeter of the Synchrom.

===When used in Synchrom with itself===
Genbull is a very, very successful Stamina Chrome Wheel when used in a Synchrom with itself. Genbull Genbull has found many uses in Stamina throughout the BB-10 Attack Type BeyStadium and Zero-G Attack Type Stadium metagames, and can also be utilized effectively in mid-height defensive customs and even in Balance. This Chrome Wheel can be an extremely effective tool when paired with the right parts, and as such, has been one of the most competitively useful Chrome Wheels to be released.

===Use in Stamina Customization===
For the various reasons stated in the above paragraphs, Genbull can be utilized to extreme effect in the following Stamina customizations both in the BB-10 Attack Type Beystadium and the Zero-G Attack Type Stadium:

''Genbull Genbull SR200TB/CS''
''Genbull Genbull TH170TB''
''Genbull Genbull SA165TB/CS''

===Use in Spin-Equalization customization===
Genbull, due to its circular shape and its weight, can be utilized very effectively in the following Spin-Equalization and Tornado Staller customs that are top-tier in all competitive stadiums:

''(MSF(-H/L/M)) Genbull Dragooon F230CF/GCF''
''(MSF-H) Genbull Dragooon SA165EWD/BWD (Normal Mode)''
''Genbull Dragooon T125GCF''
''MSF-H Genbull Genbull F230CF/GCF'''

Exclusively for Zero-G, the Genbull Chrome Wheel is useful in the following Spin Equalizer:

''MSF-H Genbull Dragooon BGrin''

==Crystal Wheel: Bandid==
*'''Weight:''' 4.8 grams
A clear derivative of a "bandit", Bandid oddly does not have a design reminiscent of those characters. It vaguely illustrates some longer daggers, but it mostly complements Goreim's shape entirely: like the latter, this Crystal Wheel has block shapes with ridges in them. Its original color is green, however Bandid Genbull's release is navy blue.

As all Crystal Wheels in the Standard or Zero-G format, Bandid is heavily outclassed by the whole Synchrom possibility, and even by Metal Wheels from the Maximum Series and the 4D System. Even in the Limited Format, where it has an opportunity to be useful, other Crystal Wheels are preferred, especially Dark Knight and some heavier Crystal Wheels. Bandid should never be considered for competitive play.

==Track: Free 230==
*'''Weight:''' 4.6 grams
This Track's gimmick is that it is completely free-spinning. It is implied in its marketing that it can make the Wheel it is attached to rotate in the opposite direction to the one it was launched in, simply after a hit with another Beyblade of the same original spin. However, in practice this would both be impossible, and, due to the fact the Beyblade would momentarily be stationary as it changed directions, result in an automatic loss.
F230's core section is larger than regular Tracks such as 145 and 230 to accommodate the free-spinning mechanism, while the end of the Track bears a much larger version of the irregular structure used for the base of most Bottoms. This change in size allows a Blader to grip and stabilize part of the Track in order to securely screw a Bottom onto F230's end, which would otherwise be complex because of its free-spinning nature.

The F230 Track, although shown to be outclassed by 230 in terms of conventional stamina customizations, has shown startling potential in the field of spin-equalization when used with large and circular Bottoms like CF/GCF that make it remain upright and roll. The free-spinning shaft of F230 allows the combination using it to continue rotating after it has fallen onto the wide ridge of CF/GCF, which keeps the Metal/Chrome Wheel from touching the ground as the upper section of the Beyblade spins, providing a very prominent display of LAD capabilities.

The F230CF/GCF setup has proven to contain some of, if not the, highest Life After Death of any Track-Bottom setup ever in the Metal Fight Beyblade series, and as such is extremely useful in spin-equalizing customizations in both BB-10 or Zero-G format.

TAKARA-TOMY released this Track in two different Beyblades, one of which was Bandid Genbull F230TB (orange). The second version of the track was released with Thief Saramanda F230SF (brown) in the BBG-26 Random Booster vol. 3. Hasbro also released this Track in the Behemoth Golem Earth Synchrom 2-Pack, with Berserker Behemoth F230TB (red), and in the Bandit Genbu F230TB Starter (orange).

The brown and red F230 Tracks, along with Hasbro's orange F230 have shown problems with wear, and the free-spinning function of the track seems to be hindered, squeaking and scraping, as opposed to the smooth, consistent free-spinning function of the Takara Tomy orange F230, which works very well when applied to spin-equalization. The worse of the four molds is Hasbro's red F230, whose internal mechanism appears to grind against itself, which means it almost requires an outside force to spin.

===Use in Spin-Equalization customization===
The F230 track, for the reasons stated above, can be utilized in the following spin-equalizing customizations if it is the TAKARA-TOMY orange mold.

''Genbull Dragooon F230CF/GCF''
''Duo Cygnus/Cancer F230CF/GCF''
''Genbull Genbull F230CF/GCF''

==Bottom: Twin Ball==
*'''Weight:''' 0.7 grams
TB is simply half of a sphere with a protruding ball at its tip identical in diameter to the tip of B.

TB has found potential in Stamina customizations in both the BB-10 Attack Type BeyStadium and the Zero-G Attack Type Stadium. Its slightly aggressive movement pattern and increased amount of friction with the stadium floor as opposed to D-series Bottoms allows it to resist rotational Recoil more effectively than other conventional Stamina Bottoms. Due to it's spherical shape, TB also has an unusual ability to wobble at extreme angles for an extended period of time when used on taller Tracks (specifically 230, where this attribute can be utilized to its fullest), similar to MB, although arguably even more effectively, as the period of time for which it can precess is typically longer than MB's precession time. TB is preferred over most Bottoms for Stamina against opponents using the same spin in Zero-G stadiums due to its impressive ability to resist Zero-G Attack types, something which other popular Zero-G stamina bottoms such as BWD/W²D cannot do.

TB can be utilized very effectively when used with SR200, TH170, or 230, allowing it to wobble at a wide angle and take advantage of the optimal center of gravity such heights provide. It also performs notably well when used with the Genbull Chrome Wheel, using its weight and its movement pattern/resistance to rotational Recoil to reduce the opponent's spin velocity by repeatedly inflicting rotational damage.

However, unlike WD or EWD, TB is relatively vulnerable to opposite-spin customizations due to its rounded shape, and one should avoid using it in an opposite-spin match-up whenever possible, as Stamina setups like W145WD are a safer pick in such a scenario to remain upright.

Despite this fact, as shown by its impressive numbers against same-spin opponents, TB is definitely a competitive Stamina part in any stadium format, and is an essential part to any Blader majoring in Stamina.

===Use in Stamina customizations===
TB, for the reasons stated above, can be utilized effectively in the following Stamina customizations.

''Genbull Genbull SR200/TH170TB''
''Duo Cancer/Cygnus/Hades SA165/230/SR200TB''


===Use in Zero-G Defense customizations===
With its ability to stay balanced and in place despite the swaying movement of the stadium caused by Zero-G Attack types, TB can be a core part of the following Zero-G Defense combos:

''MSF-H Killerken Revizer E230 TB''
''MSF-H Revizer Revizer/Killerken/Genbull E230 TB''

==Other Versions==
*'''Shinobi Genbull 130W²D''' - BBG-23 Random Booster Vol. 3 Bandid Genbull F230TB (Yellow and blue stickers)

==Gallery==
<gallery>
Image:TrackF230.jpg|Free 230 Track render
Image:BottomTB.jpg|Twin Ball Bottom render
</gallery>

==Overall==
The Genbull Chrome Wheel and TB bottom are both must-have parts for bladers majoring in stamina, and F230 has extremely high LAD capabilities and serious potency when used with spin-equalizing setups. Almost every part on this Beyblade (with the exception of Bandid) is very, very competitive. '''Every seriously competitive Blader should own at least two of this Beyblade.'''

[[Category:Metal Fight Beyblade]]
[[Category:Beyblade]]
[[Category:Zero-G]]
[[Category:Must-buy Beyblades]]

I made a couple of edits. One was a description of TB's appearance (thanks Angry), and one insert discussing TB's ability to precess on a tall Track for long periods of time (Check the Duo Cancer 230 TB testing thread for reference).

I also removed this little line:
Quote:TB can be utilized very effectively when used with SR200 or TH170, allowing it to wobble at an optimal angle and take advantage of a beneficial center of gravity due to the height that naturally makes it remain on its vertical axle longer before even precessing.

Now, I still disagree flatly with any insert on center of gravity, but I respect the V's opinion and I'm not gonna argue against it (I got out of line last time I did that and I'm certainly not proud of the way I behaved). What I am going to say, though, is that this line seems to indicate that, because of the optimal center of gravity heights 170-230 provide, TB is allowed to stay upright longer than normal.

I would disagree with that. Taller Beyblades always begin to wobble sooner than shorter ones (provided they are using the same parts aside from the Track, of course), and TB follows the same principal. TB will begin wobbling sooner on 230 than it will on W145, just like any other Bottom. I don't think an optimal center of gravity (which I'm pretty sure doesn't exist for several reasons, but assuming it does) would magically cause the Bottom to remain upright for longer. Lower center of gravity = less top-heavy, which means the Beyblade will remain upright for longer. This is why Tracks 170 and above can't be used for spin-equalization.

I may also be misunderstanding the line, though. If I am, I would recommend we re-word it, because it seems a bit difficult to understand.

In the Stamina section for TB, I compressed the combinations (as in I put SA165/SR200/230 together like so, rather than listing one combination for each one), and added 230 to Duo (since it is top-tier now).

I also removed the banner that says "Important - Mold Variations" from the descriptions of the F230 color/brand differences, since IIRC we never confirmed that it's actually a mold discrepancy (maybe we did and I just didn't see it, though - if there's a source we have for confirming the existence of multiple molds It would be sweet if somebody could point me to it).

Lastly, I changed the word "concentrated" to "distal" in the Genbull description. After looking at the Wheel more closely, I agree with what th!nk posted a while back.

I would say it is definitely ready for publishing (pending any edits Kai-V wants to make, of course).
(Jul. 14, 2014  9:51 PM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]Could you actually take this photograph with a white background ? It seems like a really good comparison to have on Beywiki.

Are either of these okay?


I can try again tomorrow if necessary, I just didn't have much time today.

EDIT: Tomorrow came:

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(Jul. 29, 2014  10:53 PM)TheBlackDragon Wrote: [ -> ]I also removed the banner that says "Important - Mold Variations" from the descriptions of the F230 color/brand differences, since IIRC we never confirmed that it's actually a mold discrepancy (maybe we did and I just didn't see it, though - if there's a source we have for confirming the existence of multiple molds It would be sweet if somebody could point me to it).

I'm pretty sure Aɴɢʀʏ Fᴀᴄᴇ posted some pictures and the axles were different. One had like a sharp edge and another had a more rounded edge or something.

EDIT: found it. Although right after th!nk said it could have just been natural variation, so who really knows.

EDIT 2: Also, should we add Zirago to one of the bottom wheel choices on Dragooon F230? Although Genbull is supposedly the best on that setup, if Gargole is on there then Zirago should definitely be.
Well, yes, Angry was on to something it seems, but like th!nk said, his orange Takara F230 is a depressed cone (as are both of mine), and we don't have enough data to confirm that the "mold difference" is causing any change in performance. On top of that, we don't know of any mold variation between the other three kinds of F230, and I'm not sure pictures from one user are enough to warrant an insert in the article.

Fact is, we don't know that the mold difference is what's causing the variation in performance. The axles of mine all have the same conic shape (2 Takara and 2 Hasbro), and yet they perform in completely different ways.

Ah yes, I will update the listed combinations (I didn't actually look over those). I'll probably just list Genbull to keep things simple.

EDIT: Oh! I just figured out why that insert on "remaining longer on its vertical axis" was in there. Kai-V, from your solo-spin times a few pages back, it would seem that TB began precessing later into the match when used with SR200/TH170.

However, if you'll look closely, you can see that 230 did not share the same attribute, and yet Duo 230 is one of the most effective combinations for TB to be used in. I was thinking you meant TB is able to remain on its vertical axis at lower RPMs, but that is clearly not what you meant (or said for that matter).

However, as the overall higher spin times for said Tracks were higher, and 230, with a lower spin time, did not share the same attribute, I'm inclined to believe it was just due to the natural Stamina the Tracks gave the combination (thereby allowing it to spin longer overall, and pushing the point of precession further out as a result).
Just because we do not know exactly what it is does not mean that there is no mould difference ... Clearly, tbere has to be a physical difference somewhere for there to be such constant variations.
Yes, but we don't know what that mold difference is or what it's doing, or even if it exists.

TBH, from taking F230s apart and comparing the pieces, it seems to just be the quality of the plastic. The material the orange Takara F230 is made of seems to be much smoother/more slippery than that of the Hasbro Tracks.

And keep in mind that there is random variation between Tracks. I've seen brown F230s that stomp on Takara orange ones. If it truly was a mold difference causing the discrepancy, variation that radical would be difficult to explain.

The fact is, we really don't know, so I think we should explain the differences in performance between the brands/colors, and leave it be. Wouldn't want to publish something about a mold difference that we haven't confirmed is real.
The difference cannot not exist ... If it does not exist physically, then how do you think it exists ? There are only so many dimensions of this world you can invoke ... "IMPORTANT : Mold Variation" is the title we essentially always use, and since variations in F230 are so crucial, it definitely deserves that subtitle even if you think the difference is not physical.
How could the difference not be physical? My f230 is the brown hasbro version, and I definitely feel some sticking when it turns. I believe it is from use of inferior plastics,so some f230s have bad plastic would be a decent thing to put. And the reason some hasbro ones may work is because the actual track is slightly thinner, it has happened before, as much as people try to make copies mistakes are made. But any mold variation is important, because different molds are better or do different things.
(Jul. 31, 2014  12:54 PM)Thumbnail Wrote: [ -> ]How could the difference not be physical? My f230 is the brown hasbro version, and I definitely feel some sticking when it turns. I believe it is from use of inferior plastics,so some f230s have bad plastic would be a decent thing to put. And the reason some hasbro ones may work is because the actual track is slightly thinner, it has happened before, as much as people try to make copies mistakes are made. But any mold variation is important, because different molds are better or do different things.

There is no Brown Hasbro mold, though. Tongue_out

You can't really say that they have different/ "inferior plastics" since that is far from being confirmed, the only thing we really know and can say for sure is that a mold variation may exist.
(Jul. 31, 2014  5:50 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]The difference cannot not exist ... If it does not exist physically, then how do you think it exists ? There are only so many dimensions of this world you can invoke ... "IMPORTANT : Mold Variation" is the title we essentially always use, and since variations in F230 are so crucial, it definitely deserves that subtitle even if you think the difference is not physical.

Of course the difference has to be physical - what else could it possibly be? Haha.

I'm just saying that I think it may have something to do with inconsistencies in the material the Tracks are made of, rather than a molding difference that alters the actual shape of the Track's parts (especially because of what th!nk was on to before he left involving his little experiment).

I could definitely be wrong, though. I think, if we want the article published now, we should just leave it out, and then do some research and open up some F230s and whatnot and perhaps, if we find a mold difference, we can add it in later.

It would be quite strange to write about a mold difference, when we can't explain in the article what that mold difference is, you know what I mean?

Or we could just delay posting the article until we confirm that mold differences are/aren't there, but I would kind of like to have it up sooner than later, and make the update in the future if we need to.

I know it's a crucial piece of information, but saying that F230 "deserves" that subtitle is debatable. We don't really know if it's a geometric molding difference, or what that mold difference is. My suspicion, again, is that it's something having to do with the material, since I can feel the difference between my Hasbro and Takara orange F230s, and the plastic itself has a totally different consistency. That said, we thoroughly cover performance differences in the article, so the information is definitely still there. We're not missing anything, so I wouldn't recommend adding something in that we don't know for sure is true (especially since we know so little about it).

There is definitely a more or less consistent difference between brands and colors. We just don't know for sure what's causing the difference, and until we investigate further, I don't think we should just assume that it's a visible geometric molding issue. It could very well be something else (or it could be a mold difference - that's a very believable answer, but I think we should at least try to find it and figure out what it is before we write about it).

Do we know of any members with multiples of all 4 kinds of F230 who would be willing to spend some time disassembling them and taking pictures? One problem is, there could be different molds for each color (IE two possible molds for Brown, 2 possible molds for Takara orange, a mold for red, and then like 2 molds for Hasbro Orange or something), sine there are major performance discrepancies between Tracks of the same color+brand (like geetster99's brown F230, for instance, or the brown F230 Thunder Dome used to have, or the Hasbro orange Dark just got recently - they're all worlds better than they should be judging by the color+brand).

I think, since the mold difference(s) (assuming it/they exist(s) in a visible form) is likely subtle (since none of us have found it yet), it will take as many people as we can get to figure it out, and it would likely take a while.
(Jul. 31, 2014  1:06 PM)Leone19 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 31, 2014  12:54 PM)Thumbnail Wrote: [ -> ]How could the difference not be physical? My f230 is the brown hasbro version, and I definitely feel some sticking when it turns. I believe it is from use of inferior plastics,so some f230s have bad plastic would be a decent thing to put. And the reason some hasbro ones may work is because the actual track is slightly thinner, it has happened before, as much as people try to make copies mistakes are made. But any mold variation is important, because different molds are better or do different things.

There is no Brown Hasbro mold, though. Tongue_out

You can't really say that they have different/ "inferior plastics" since that is far from being confirmed, the only thing we really know and can say for sure is that a mold variation may exist.

I don't know anymore, I'm talking about the one that comes in the sync pack, the red one. Sorry.

But I think that if we can't tell for sure, then we should just state "there are unconfirmed mold variation in this piece" and then list the molds. Or we could just wait until we understand the mold difference. (But I am also pretty sure the difference is due to bad plastic)
OK, on the topic of what is causing F230 to perform differently between brands/colors, apparently, before th!nk left, he relayed his theory to Angry Face, who in turn forwarded it to me a couple days ago during this discussion.

th!nk actually theorized that there may be some sort of dry lubricant applied to the inside of the Track that allows the plastic to spin more freely (specifically plastic-safe silicone, or, as we call it here in the US, WD40). Angry Face is trying an experiment sometime soon, so I'll leave the details to him, but it looks promising.
This is something I would be ready to approve for publication :

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| beyblade type = [[Stamina]]
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'''Note:''' Hasbro renamed this Beyblade ''Bandit Genbu F230TB''.

==Stone Face: Genbull==
*'''Weight:''' 1.2 grams
The sticker on this Stone Face represents a comical illustration of a turtle shell with an eye peering from the hole. Genbull is based on Genbu, or Xuan Wu, the black tortoise with a snake coiling around it in Chinese mythology.

==Chrome Wheel: Genbull==
*'''Weight:''' 30.8 grams
Sat atop a very circular base is a mostly hexagonal shape. Four straight lines, two on each side, create a design reminescent of the [[Libra DF145BS|Libra Wheel]]. Another mostly straight edge is built at the top of the Genbull Chrome Wheel, where the Crystal Wheel's orb is inserted. At the bottom, however, there is a small turtle head designed but it does not protrude that much from the overall circular shape of the real bottom of this Chrome Wheel.

Having a distal center of gravity, overall above-average weight, rather even weight distribution for a Chrome Wheel, and a relatively symmetrical, circular, smooth shape, Genbull has shown serious competitive use in Stamina customizations in both the Attack Type Beystadium and the Zero-G Attack Type Stadium when used with the TB and CS Bottoms and the TH170/SR200 Tracks (benefiting from TH170/SR200's optimal center of gravity), and possesses considerable defensive potential in tall/mid-height customizations as well.

Genbull's great weight and shape render it superior in the face of other competitive Stamina Metal Wheels such as Duo when used in a Zero-G Attack Type Stadium, for the sake of resisting Zero-G Attack types. Chrome Wheel combinations such as Killerken Genbull and Genbull Genbull dominate the Zero-G metagame as far as Stamina types go due to the reasons stated above.

This Chrome Wheel's heavy weight, smooth outer edge, and inward focused center of gravity render it a very viable choice for mid-height defensive customizations as well, even out-doing Revizer in some instances. However, Genbull has considerable Recoil from below, and as such would not be an effective selection for the bottom Chrome Wheel on an E230-based defenders.

===When used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom===
Genbull can provide very impressive Stamina when used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom, as well as noticeable defensive properties.

It has notable Stamina when paired with the Chrome Wheels Killerken and Reviser, and can also be utilized in many Defense customs with these two to provide a boost in Stamina, and as such is very competitive in terms of Stamina/Defense when used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom.

===When used as the bottom Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom===
Genbull can provide a minor boost in Spin Velocity on the bottom of a Synchrom, due to its ideal weight distribution and shape, but there is no real competitive use for it outside of spin equalization. Genbull can perform considerably better when used as the top Chrome Wheel in a Synchrom or when in Synchrom with itself in conventional Stamina/Defense customizations.

However, the one case where Genbull has shown incredible competitive ability is when used as the bottom Chrome Wheel in Dragooon Spin-Equalizers. Its low Recoil and high Stamina capabilities make it an optimal choice when using a Dragooon Spin-Equalizer, and Genbull has become top-tier in many Dragooon-Based customs. Its circular shape barely protrudes over attack points of the above Chrome Wheel, so it also adds weight evenly around the perimeter of the Synchrom.

===When used in Synchrom with itself===
Genbull is a very, very successful Stamina Chrome Wheel when used in a Synchrom with itself. Genbull Genbull has found many uses in Stamina throughout the BB-10 Attack Type BeyStadium and Zero-G Attack Type Stadium metagames, and can also be utilized effectively in mid-height defensive customs and even in Balance. This Chrome Wheel can be an extremely effective tool when paired with the right parts, and as such, has been one of the most competitively useful Chrome Wheels to be released.

===Use in Stamina Customization===
For the various reasons stated in the above paragraphs, Genbull can be utilized to extreme effect in the following Stamina customizations both in the BB-10 Attack Type Beystadium and the Zero-G Attack Type Stadium:

''Genbull Genbull SR200TB/CS''
''Genbull Genbull TH170TB''
''Genbull Genbull SA165TB/CS''

===Use in Spin-Equalization customization===
Genbull, due to its circular shape and its weight, can be utilized very effectively in the following Spin-Equalization and Tornado Staller customs that are top-tier in all competitive stadiums:

''(MSF(-H/L/M)) Genbull Dragooon F230CF/GCF''
''(MSF-H) Genbull Dragooon SA165EWD/BWD (Normal Mode)''
''Genbull Dragooon T125GCF''
''MSF-H Genbull Genbull F230CF/GCF'''

Exclusively for Zero-G, the Genbull Chrome Wheel is useful in the following Spin Equalizer:

''MSF-H Genbull Dragooon B:D''

==Crystal Wheel: Bandid==
*'''Weight:''' 4.8 grams
A clear derivative of a "bandit", Bandid oddly does not have a design reminiscent of those characters. It vaguely illustrates some longer daggers, but it mostly complements Goreim's shape entirely: like the latter, this Crystal Wheel has block shapes with ridges in them. Its original color is green, however Bandid Genbull's release is navy blue.

As all Crystal Wheels in the Standard or Zero-G format, Bandid is heavily outclassed by the whole Synchrom possibility, and even by Metal Wheels from the Maximum Series and the 4D System. Even in the Limited Format, where it has an opportunity to be useful, other Crystal Wheels are preferred, especially Dark Knight and some heavier Crystal Wheels. Bandid should never be considered for competitive play.

==Track: Free 230==
*'''Weight:''' 4.6 grams
This Track's gimmick is that it is completely free-spinning. It is implied in its marketing that it can make the Wheel it is attached to rotate in the opposite direction to the one it was launched in, simply after a hit with another Beyblade of the same original spin. However, in practice this would both be impossible, and, due to the fact the Beyblade would momentarily be stationary as it changed directions, result in an automatic loss.
F230's core section is larger than regular Tracks such as 145 and 230 to accommodate the free-spinning mechanism, while the end of the Track bears a much larger version of the irregular structure used for the base of most Bottoms. This change in size allows a Blader to grip and stabilize part of the Track in order to securely screw a Bottom onto F230's end, which would otherwise be complex because of its free-spinning nature.

The F230 Track, although shown to be outclassed by 230 in terms of conventional stamina customizations, has shown startling potential in the field of spin-equalization when used with large and circular Bottoms like CF/GCF that make it remain upright and roll. The free-spinning shaft of F230 allows the combination using it to continue rotating after it has fallen onto the wide ridge of CF/GCF, which keeps the Metal/Chrome Wheel from touching the ground as the upper section of the Beyblade spins, providing a very prominent display of LAD capabilities.

The F230CF/GCF setup has proven to contain some of, if not the, highest Life After Death of any Track-Bottom setup ever in the Metal Fight Beyblade series, and as such is extremely useful in spin-equalizing customizations in both BB-10 or Zero-G format.

===IMPORTANT: Mold Variations===
TAKARA-TOMY released this Track in two different Beyblades, one of which was Bandid Genbull F230TB (orange). The second version of the track was released with Thief Saramanda F230SF (brown) in the BBG-26 Random Booster vol. 3. Hasbro also released this Track in the Behemoth Golem Earth Synchrom 2-Pack, with Berserker Behemoth F230TB (red), and in the Bandit Genbu F230TB Starter (orange).

The brown and red F230 Tracks, along with Hasbro's orange F230 have shown problems with wear, and the free-spinning function of the track seems to be hindered, squeaking and scraping, as opposed to the smooth, consistent free-spinning function of the Takara Tomy orange F230, which works very well when applied to spin-equalization. The worse of the four molds is Hasbro's red F230, whose internal mechanism appears to grind against itself, which means it almost requires an outside force to spin.

===Use in Spin-Equalization customization===
The F230 track, for the reasons stated above, can be utilized in the following spin-equalizing customizations if it is the TAKARA-TOMY orange mold.

''Genbull Dragooon F230CF/GCF''
''Duo Cygnus/Cancer F230CF/GCF''
''Genbull Genbull F230CF/GCF''

==Bottom: Twin Ball==
*'''Weight:''' 0.7 grams
TB is simply half of a sphere with a protruding ball at its tip identical in diameter to the tip of B.

TB has found potential in Stamina customizations in both the BB-10 Attack Type BeyStadium and the Zero-G Attack Type Stadium. Its slightly aggressive movement pattern and increased amount of friction with the stadium floor as opposed to D-series Bottoms allow it to resist rotational Recoil more effectively than other conventional Stamina Bottoms. Due to its spherical shape, TB also has an unusual ability to wobble at extreme angles for an extended period of time when used on taller Tracks (specifically 230, where this attribute can be utilized to its fullest), similar to MB, although arguably even more effectively, as the period of time for which it can precess is typically longer than MB's precession time. TB is preferred over most Bottoms for Stamina against opponents using the same spin in Zero-G stadiums due to its impressive ability to resist Zero-G Attack types, something which other popular Zero-G stamina bottoms such as BWD/W²D cannot do.

TB can be utilized very effectively when used with SR200, TH170, or 230, allowing it to wobble at a wide angle and take advantage of the optimal center of gravity such heights provide to that Bottom's balance which makes it wobble later, depending on the Wheel(s) used. It also performs notably well when used with the Genbull Chrome Wheel, using its weight and its movement pattern/resistance to rotational Recoil to reduce the opponent's spin velocity by repeatedly inflicting rotational damage.

However, unlike WD or EWD, TB is relatively vulnerable to opposite-spin customizations due to its rounded shape, and one should avoid using it in an opposite-spin match-up whenever possible, as Stamina setups like W145WD are a safer pick in such a scenario to remain upright.

Despite this fact, as shown by its impressive numbers against same-spin opponents, TB is definitely a competitive Stamina part in any stadium format, and is an essential part to any Blader majoring in Stamina.

===Use in Stamina customizations===
TB, for the reasons stated above, can be utilized effectively in the following Stamina customizations.

''Genbull Genbull SR200/TH170TB''
''Duo Cancer/Cygnus/Hades SA165/230/SR200TB''

===Use in Zero-G Defense customizations===
With its ability to stay balanced and in place despite the swaying movement of the stadium caused by Zero-G Attack types, TB can be a core part of the following Zero-G Defense combos:

''MSF-H Killerken Revizer E230 TB''
''MSF-H Revizer Revizer/Killerken/Genbull E230 TB''

==Other Versions==
*'''Shinobi Genbull 130W²D''' - BBG-23 Random Booster Vol. 3 Bandid Genbull F230TB (Yellow and blue stickers)

==Gallery==
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Image:TrackF230.jpg|Free 230 Track render
Image:BottomTB.jpg|Twin Ball Bottom render
</gallery>

==Overall==
The Genbull Chrome Wheel and TB bottom are both must-have parts for bladers majoring in stamina, and F230 has extremely high LAD capabilities and serious potency when used with spin-equalizing setups. Almost every part on this Beyblade (with the exception of Bandid) is immensely competitive. '''Every seriously competitive Blader should own at least two of this Beyblade.'''

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[[Category:Must-buy Beyblades]]


According to my tests ages ago, while it could be true that taller Beyblades start wobbling earlier, it was certainly not true except with 230, but all those that started wobbling first were Tracks from 160 and shorter. I therefore re-added a part of the sentence about (Track)TB wobbling later, but I also specified that it of course depended on the Wheel used with it. I am also not even certain, personally, that smaller Beyblades should not start wobbling earlier, but whatever; it always depends what other parts you are using, but for those usually combined to TB, I think it is true that they wobble later.

Furthermore, I did re-add the "IMPORTANT: Mold Variations" title, because even if there are of course slight variations within each colour category, the differences between the four possible F230 are so flagrant that we should still mention it, and we will eventually find out, thanks to Aɴɢʀʏ Fᴀᴄᴇ probably, exactly what is causing this, physically. It may not be the traditional sense of the word "mould" that we have in F230's case, but it will do.


Also yes, Aɴɢʀʏ Fᴀᴄᴇ, that picture is awesome to show the differences. Thank you.
Alright. As far as the wobbling thing goes, I'm inclined to believe, as I stated earlier, that the pure endurance of the Tracks merely pushes the point of Precession farther out as a result, and center of gravity has nothing to do with it.

But we both know where you stand on that, so it doesn't really matter, haha.

I'm still iffy about adding mold variations. We really don't know if they are there, and regardless of whether you put the subtitle in or not, we still mention that the Tracks perform differently, so the information is there. If we add the subtitle, however, we are saying "these variations are caused by a mold difference between Tracks," which I would caution against, just because we aren't sure if that's an accurate statement.

I would personally write "Performance Variations" rather than "Mold Variations," just to avoid putting misinformation in the article.

But, I would be fine with what you have (super excited, actually!); a little bit uneasy about the whole mold thing, but hey, any article is better than none.
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