World Beyblade Organization by Fighting Spirits Inc.

(Feb. 03, 2021  4:57 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Gotta admit I miss the old days when I was new here. The atmosphere was really welcoming compared to now. I don’t know if it’s just me or does anyone else notice that people are getting more and more hostile towards new people? I mean there’s people who expect newcomers to just know anything and when they make a mistake people just coldly tell them that they did something wrong (not even explaining what). What are your thoughts about the atmosphere to those of the rather older members (, , , , )? And to those that have felt unwelcomed what do you think we can do

I agree. Granted im sorta guilty of this but that can tend to happen when you mature and become more and more accustomed to the rules and we all at times tend to want people to follow the rules without slip ups but the thing is that we can't learn from our mistakes if we follow the rules without making a few mistakes along, its part of growing as a site member and a person overall.

And I have noticed a lot of people have become quite hostile (not gonna say who because they know who they are) and its quite sad honestly. Another thing is that there are a carp ton of arguments. Always something negative new happens everyday.

Honestly, ive been here about a year and a half and it keeps getting toxic and toxic everytime i log in and its just awful to see.

Im glad I got this off my chest because ive been holding these feelings for a while.

(Feb. 03, 2021  4:57 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Gotta admit I miss the old days when I was new here. The atmosphere was really welcoming compared to now. I don’t know if it’s just me or does anyone else notice that people are getting more and more hostile towards new people? I mean there’s people who expect newcomers to just know anything and when they make a mistake people just coldly tell them that they did something wrong (not even explaining what). What are your thoughts about the atmosphere to those of the rather older members (, , , , )? And to those that have felt unwelcomed what do you think we can do

(Feb. 03, 2021  5:01 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb. 03, 2021  4:57 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Gotta admit I miss the old days when I was new here. The atmosphere was really welcoming compared to now. I don’t know if it’s just me or does anyone else notice that people are getting more and more hostile towards new people? I mean there’s people who expect newcomers to just know anything and when they make a mistake people just coldly tell them that they did something wrong (not even explaining what). What are your thoughts about the atmosphere?

Yeah, it’s definitely changed. Really missing early 2018 when I’d lurk here and love reading posts, and when I joined I liked being a part of a welcoming and friendly community.

(Feb. 03, 2021  6:00 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb. 03, 2021  4:57 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Gotta admit I miss the old days when I was new here. The atmosphere was really welcoming compared to now. I don’t know if it’s just me or does anyone else notice that people are getting more and more hostile towards new people? I mean there’s people who expect newcomers to just know anything and when they make a mistake people just coldly tell them that they did something wrong (not even explaining what). What are your thoughts about the atmosphere to those of the rather older members (, , , , )? And to those that have felt unwelcomed what do you think we can do

I agree. Granted im sorta guilty of this but that can tend to happen when you mature and become more and more accustomed to the rules and we all at times tend to want people to follow the rules without slip ups but the thing is that we can't learn from our mistakes if we follow the rules without making a few mistakes along, its part of growing as a site member and a person overall.

And I have noticed a lot of people have become quite hostile (not gonna say who because they know who they are) and its quite sad honestly. Another thing is that there are a carp ton of arguments. Always something negative new happens everyday.

Honestly, ive been here about a year and a half and it keeps getting toxic and toxic everytime i log in and its just awful to see.

Im glad I got this off my chest because ive been holding these feelings for a while.

I fully agree, though even I admit that I'm sometimes not as welcoming as I should be. I honestly think it's at least partially due to Covid, everyone's stressed about what will happen next.

But mainly, I think it's a symptom of having very few tournaments/little face-to-face interaction. Before, whenever you went to a tournament you would be reminded of the different people who use the site, whereas now we've been just usernames on a screen for... nearly a year now.

I don't know what exactly to call this phenomenon, but I've noticed it a lot over my years of online gaming. People will oftentimes say and do things online that they'd never do IRL. Or at the very least, there would be repercussions to their actions.

At the end of the day, it's sad, but I truly don't know what could be done to remedy this situation, especially since the pandemic is still an ongoing issue. Perhaps tournament hosting could begin again, but only people who can confirm they've been vaccinated can attend...?

Idk, that's a whole other can of worms that I don't want to get into.

(Feb. 03, 2021  4:57 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Gotta admit I miss the old days when I was new here. The atmosphere was really welcoming compared to now. I don’t know if it’s just me or does anyone else notice that people are getting more and more hostile towards new people? I mean there’s people who expect newcomers to just know anything and when they make a mistake people just coldly tell them that they did something wrong (not even explaining what). What are your thoughts about the atmosphere to those of the rather older members (, , , , )? And to those that have felt unwelcomed what do you think we can do

Definitely seemed to be different in the older days. It was also far more populated and livid in those days as well. I believe that the decline in tournaments due to corona has a play in it. Another thing (as other people have mentioned) is that the site was particularly more light hearted back then. These days it has gotten a fair bit more toxic and serious.

Has it really? I really do not see that much toxicity or seriousness. To be honest; just because a few people are like that does not mean that the entire site is more toxic and serious. I do believe that this generalization is completely incorrect. Although I have joined (formally) a year ago. I do remember the times in the hiatus as well as during MFB being similar to the current times. Yes, one could argue that some seriousness has creeped in; but that is just the natural byproduct of the growth of any website. Not everyone on this site is a child anymore( I certainly am not) and I do welcome some serious discussions these days lol.

(Feb. 03, 2021  5:01 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb. 03, 2021  4:57 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Gotta admit I miss the old days when I was new here. The atmosphere was really welcoming compared to now. I don’t know if it’s just me or does anyone else notice that people are getting more and more hostile towards new people? I mean there’s people who expect newcomers to just know anything and when they make a mistake people just coldly tell them that they did something wrong (not even explaining what). What are your thoughts about the atmosphere?

Yeah, it’s definitely changed. Really missing early 2018 when I’d lurk here and love reading posts, and when I joined I liked being a part of a welcoming and friendly community.

Early to mid 2018 was nostalgia omg.

As someone who's been in this community for almost a decade, it's hard to say whether the community is more toxic or hostile to newcomers now than it was when I first joined. There's definitely been a change in atmosphere over the years, but it has really been mostly the same since March of 2018, and I think that it has more to do with this style of forum just not being suited to the typical post-modern user.

Back when I first joined, the WBO was way more authoritarian, for lack of a better word, than it is now. We had basically outsourced moderation to some redpilled lowlife who didn't actually have any interest in the hobby itself, just moderation - so between his undeserved power and inability to relate to other users on the common ground that's literally the foundation of this website, you can probably guess how toxic and hostile he was to newcomers. Many of the current generation of Staff members grew up with this piece of carp, and as a result, we've all tried to be more lenient and understanding with new users in comparison, though that's inadvertently led to a different kind of toxicity where people feel like they can get away with posting just about anything.

From what I've seen, most of the new users that have joined in 2018 or later (new compared to me at least, I kind of get whiplash seeing some of them called "older" haha) use the WBO like a chat room. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, because it's a natural way to communicate, but it's just not the WBO's intended function. All of these back and forth conversations generate tons of posts that, while they technically don't break any rules, lack any meaningful content. That's why we created a Discord Server, a literal chatroom where you can have all the back and forth, one line discussions you need. If you don't want to or can't use Discord for whatever reason, we happen to have a handy PM system that I'm pretty sure has a group message functionality, so use that instead.

The attitude has done almost a complete 180 from "do not post unless you have something worth posting" to "post just for the sake of posting", and it's gotten to the point where some people will actively exploit this by creating multiple alt accounts to have conversations with themselves or create two threads for just random opposing off topic things (something like, i dunno, "favorite carrot recipes" and "least favorite carrot recipes"). I think the worst example is that one user that created like 5 different accounts, and their cover story for one was "this is my non-blader friend from real life" and all they ever did was get into arguments with their other alts and other users about things that had nothing to do with Beyblade, or even anything else (and people were defending them? Really?). At what point does this just become straight up spam, or trolling? This isn't reddit, there's no karma or reward you get for making lots of posts or getting lots of likes. Like, if you've made more posts in the past year than I have in my entire 9 year existence on the WBO, dial it back a little. Please.

This puts the mods in a tough spot though, because while we want to promote Beyblade discussion and keep people on topic, if we delete these kinds of posts and warn or ban these kinds of users, we'll be seen as the toxic ones. I've definitely gotten some backlash for doing this in the past (even WITHIN THE PAST HOUR OMG), and the guy before me, yall basically cyberbullied him into stepping down from the position. Trying to address the problem doesn't really help either, which is why you hardly see any of the mods doing it. This is probably just going to get like 10 likes, 3 different quote replies that say some variation of "i agree, nice post" (and nothing else) and change absolutely nothing about the overall outlook of people use the WBO.

(Feb. 03, 2021  4:57 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Gotta admit I miss the old days when I was new here. The atmosphere was really welcoming compared to now. I don’t know if it’s just me or does anyone else notice that people are getting more and more hostile towards new people? I mean there’s people who expect newcomers to just know anything and when they make a mistake people just coldly tell them that they did something wrong (not even explaining what). What are your thoughts about the atmosphere to those of the rather older members (, , , , )? And to those that have felt unwelcomed what do you think we can do

Echoing the thoughts above, I’d definitely say that the WBO and its atmosphere have changed greatly since when I joined back in late 2018. I’ll admit that I was probably a nuisance to the more experienced members when I first joined. However, rather than responding in a hostile manner, they helped explain the rules to me and, overall, they shaped my views on what an online forum and community should look like. I’d definitely like to help make newer members feel more welcomed, so if there’s anything I could do to help with that, please feel free to inform me.

I always figured was secretly the god of the beyblade universe. They all said I was crazy, but I knew.

Me who’s spent 2 1/2 years getting my post count:
Everyone else who’s spent over 2 years getting a high post count:

EarthHelios: Splish splash your post count is trash

Everyone’s making such a big deal over EarthHelios’ post count. Like it really doesn’t matter who has the highest post count.

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:29 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Everyone’s making such a big deal over EarthHelios’ post count. Like it really doesn’t matter who has the highest post count.

To be honest it’s a pretty big flex on the wbo🤷‍♂️. If it really didn’t matter nobody would be making a big deal over it.

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:30 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:29 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Everyone’s making such a big deal over EarthHelios’ post count. Like it really doesn’t matter who has the highest post count.

To be honest it’s a pretty big flex on the wbo🤷‍♂️. If it really didn’t matter nobody would be making a big deal over it.

But why is it such a big flex (besides I have an even larger flex about this site).

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:31 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:30 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]To be honest it’s a pretty big flex on the wbo🤷‍♂️. If it really didn’t matter nobody would be making a big deal over it.

But why is it such a big flex (besides I have an even larger flex about this site).

Because high post count lol. Anyways what is your flex.

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:31 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:30 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]To be honest it’s a pretty big flex on the wbo🤷‍♂️. If it really didn’t matter nobody would be making a big deal over it.

But why is it such a big flex (besides I have an even larger flex about this site).

dw, imma make you have the largest notification count in this site by liking all of your comments.

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:33 PM)Pixi Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:31 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]But why is it such a big flex (besides I have an even larger flex about this site).

dw, imma make you have the largest notification count in this site by liking all of your comments.

Dang that is the biggest flex on this site. You and 🌍Helios should have a battle to see who the true most powerful deity is.

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:29 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Everyone’s making such a big deal over EarthHelios’ post count. Like it really doesn’t matter who has the highest post count.

It’s not a big deal, it’s just funny and strange because with members like Kei who has been here since before the WBO was even called the WBO and have made posts over the last 13 years, EH just comes in and beats that in a matter of months.

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:35 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:29 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Everyone’s making such a big deal over EarthHelios’ post count. Like it really doesn’t matter who has the highest post count.

It’s not a big deal, it’s just funny and strange because with members like Kei who has been here since before the WBO was even called the WBO and have made posts over the last 13 years, EH just comes in and beats that in a matter of months.

Well when you’re the god of the beyblade universe you don’t even need to make an effort to make thousands of posts in short time.

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:34 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:33 PM)Pixi Wrote: [ -> ]dw, imma make you have the largest notification count in this site by liking all of your comments.

Dang that is the biggest flex on this site. You and 🌍Helios should have a battle to see who the true most powerful diet is.

Might I remind you of my 12,373 notifications?

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:37 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:34 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Dang that is the biggest flex on this site. You and 🌍Helios should have a battle to see who the true most powerful diet is.

Might I remind you of my 12,373 notifications?

God, that definitely outclasses EarthHelios.

oh dang helios has 17k posts

I wonder how much time it took him to get that much in a month.

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:49 PM)Free... Hoya Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder how much time it took him to get that much in a month.

Doing the approximate calculations, Helios has spent over 19 days and 7 hours making posts here

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:49 PM)Free... Hoya Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder how much time it took him to get that much in a month.

It was more like 5 months.

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:58 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb. 04, 2021  4:49 PM)Free... Hoya Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder how much time it took him to get that much in a month.

Doing the approximate calculations, Helios has spent over 19 days and 7 hours making posts here

If you are talking straight then that's Unreasonable. However there's a reason he's not making that rate anymore. Remember back when he just joined And he kept making post that we're just "lol." I think that's where he get some of his post count.

Nowadays he no longer does that as much and still has ridiculous growth so it’s definitely beyond the simple pointless posts. He had 15k posts mid January and they now sit around 17k