You may have seen how well it had done against my Diablo Kerbecs, but you want to see more.
Standard Procedure
Zero G Attack Type Stadium
BeyLauncher LR
Hasbro Launcher Grip
Launcher Rubber
MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230 SB
Revizer: 14 wins, 12 OS, 2 KO
Diablo: 6 wins, 2 KO, 4 OS
SB Win Rate: 70%
1. Revizer OS
2. Diablo KOÂ
3. Revizer OS
4. Revizer KO
5. Revizer OS
6. Diablo OS (huge hits won it)
7. Diablo KO
8. Revizer OS
9. Revizer OS
10. Revizer OS
11. Revizer OS
12. Revizer OS
13. Diablo Self KO Redone; Revizer OS
14. Revizer OS
15. Diablo OS
16. Revizer OS
17. Diablo OS
18. Revizer OS
19. Diablo OS
20. Revizer KO
MF-H Flash Scorpio 160 R2F vs MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230 SB
Revizer: 13 wins, 12 OS, 1 KO
Flash: 7 wins, 6 KO, 1 OS
SB Win Rate: Â 65%
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1. Tie Redone; Revizer OS
2. Revizer OS
3. Revizer OS
4. Revizer OS
5. Â Flash KO
6. Revizer KO
7. Flash KO
8. Flash KO
9. Revizer OS
10. Flash OS
11. Revizer OS
12. Revizer OS
13. Revizer OS
14. Revizer OS
15. Flash KO
16. Revizer OS
17. Flash KO
18. Revizer OS
19. Flash KO
20. Revizer OS
While it is seeming only average, I'm telling you, this thing has potential.
I own SB (but no Zero-G stadium), and the tip itself actually has "balanced" traits in a BB-10.
S-Stamina
B-Defense
B-Slight Attack
Nice tests, though. Maybe try MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 160SB to test the "90 Degree angle" gimmick Takara-Tomy says 160SB can do?
I have done some of my own testing.
Note: All parts are TT other than the Bull clear wheel
Equipment used
Zero-G stadium
Beylauncher LR
Ifraid Ifraid GB145GCF vs MF-H Death Bull 160SB
Ifraid : 9 wins (7 ZA, 1 KO, 1 OS)
SB:
11 wins ( All OS)
SB win :
55%
Ifraid Ifraid GB145GCF vs MF-H Death Bull 160RS(yay for my new RS)
Ifraid : 5 wins ( All ZA)
RS:15 wins (14 OS, 1 ZA)
RS win : 75%
This result was very predictable. RS won more times than SB because of its superior grip on the stadium floor. As a result, it was not swayed out as easily.
Ifraid Ifraid GB145GCF vs MF-H Death Bull 160BS
Ifraid : 10 wins (All ZA)
BS :10 wins (2 ZA, 8OS)
BS win : 55%
This was more or less what I expected. Since BS and SB share similar qualities, the resuls were almost the same
Conclusions
Apparently, the "90 Degree angle" gimmick seemed to have positve effects on SB's performance.
90 degree gimmick theory:
(Jun. 13, 2012 3:41 AM)MyTestsAreLies Wrote: [ -> ]I found something interseting about the 160 SB set-up :
For those whom have been following the CoroCoro posts (very few) would have seen the sneak peek of the Guardian Revizer's "Perfect Balance Counter" feature. This feature enables the Guardian Revizer to stay 'Stationary' in the ZeroG stadium even in high tilt angles.
When the ZeroG Stadium is in stationary status, the Guardian Revizer stays in the center with little to no movement at all.When the ZeroG Stadium is forcefully tilted (in such an odd case by one's hand), the Revizer just seems to keep in the center of the Stadium. It almost does seems like magic but its actually physics.
Here is the actual Physics behind the special 160 SB set-up:
The design of the special 160 Track and SB Bottom allows the Bey to have a 'Perfect' right angle spin point (90 degrees) where the balance is in the center of the Bey.
No matter how high the Tilt is of the Zero G Attack Type Stadium, the combination of the 160 Track and the Sharp Ball Bottom will always have a 90 degree angle that keeps the bey completely contacting the Stadium surface (and thus not being knocked out). This helps the Bey to keep its own Centrifugal Force and its own Spin Rate.
A combo that should be tested to prove this theory is :
MSF Revizer Revizer 160 SB
(I do apologize for this extremely long post.)
(Oct. 16, 2012 8:26 AM)abrakadabralaka Wrote: [ -> ]90 degree gimmick theory:
(Jun. 13, 2012 3:41 AM)MyTestsAreLies Wrote: [ -> ]I found something interseting about the 160 SB set-up :
For those whom have been following the CoroCoro posts (very few) would have seen the sneak peek of the Guardian Revizer's "Perfect Balance Counter" feature. This feature enables the Guardian Revizer to stay 'Stationary' in the ZeroG stadium even in high tilt angles.
When the ZeroG Stadium is in stationary status, the Guardian Revizer stays in the center with little to no movement at all.When the ZeroG Stadium is forcefully tilted (in such an odd case by one's hand), the Revizer just seems to keep in the center of the Stadium. It almost does seems like magic but its actually physics.
Here is the actual Physics behind the special 160 SB set-up:
The design of the special 160 Track and SB Bottom allows the Bey to have a 'Perfect' right angle spin point (90 degrees) where the balance is in the center of the Bey.
No matter how high the Tilt is of the Zero G Attack Type Stadium, the combination of the 160 Track and the Sharp Ball Bottom will always have a 90 degree angle that keeps the bey completely contacting the Stadium surface (and thus not being knocked out). This helps the Bey to keep its own Centrifugal Force and its own Spin Rate.
A combo that should be tested to prove this theory is :
MSF Revizer Revizer 160 SB
(I do apologize for this extremely long post.)
I wouldn't exactly say that Mu would be a good source of information for this. As Kai-V said once, Mu "spits out psuedoscientific carp". Mu didn't really explain how it worked, either. What he said hardly made sense "blablablaspinratecentrifugalforce". Also, his name was changed to "MyTestsAreLies" when he was banned.
I think the reason 160 works so well with Sharp Ball is just because the shape they make together is the right shape and height and keeps itself balanced for that reason. You could compare that to the 230D>230WD argument.
Ah, yes, I tested that theory out, and it actually works, haha. I tilted the stadium extremely, and it always stayed in the center of the part of the stadium that was touching the ground.
(Oct. 19, 2012 9:50 PM)*Ginga* Wrote: [ -> ]Ah, yes, I tested that theory out, and it actually works, haha. I tilted the stadium extremely, and it always stayed in the center of the part of the stadium that was touching the ground.
Yeah, I believed the theory too, I just didn't believe Mu's "explanation". Mu's "explanation" didn't make much sense. It's just the shape/height/balance of the setup.
Oh, quick note on SB, it's defense against Smash SUCKS. If there is not contact, and only major sway, it will be fine. Otherwise its spin would get depleted entirely.
Can someone do any kind of testing for ____ ____ B:D (if you didn't get I want any right syncrom combo with B:D preferably not some attack ones like griff or iraid etc) vs ____ ____ 160SB (same again for the syncrom)
Purpose of this is that I want to see whether SB on a high height will beat B:D.
Most prefered setup would be something like Saramanda Saramanda B:D vs Saramanda Saramada 160SB or the same combos with Reviser in place or Saramanda.
Hmm, I only have Revizer, ifraidx2, and Saramanda. No B
either, sorry.
Could somebody try to test the combo MSF-Phoenic Dragoon 160SB? I'd like to see how 160SB does in left-spin.
How about SB with a 230 track? Is it still balanced against sway attack, or does it become off balance because of a taller height?