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OK, I noticed how well this has done, and so I though it needed to be tested. Here I go.

Oh yeah, I chose MF-M because the threading in the metal core of my metal face is bad, and refuses to screw into Diablo.

Standard Procedure
Zero G Attack Type Stadium
BeyLauncher LR
Hasbro Launcher Grip
Launcher Rubber


MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230 CS
Note: Sway KOs were not redone, as the point of this combo is to sway

Diablo: 10 wins, all KO
Revizer: 10 wins, 9 OS, 1 KO
Win Rate: 50% 
I really think that it had a 50% win rate because of E230's mode. 

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230 CS

Diablo: 14 wins, 13 KO, 1 OS
Revizer: 6 wins, 3 KO, 3 OS
Win Rate: 70%
I was not surprised about these results. In the other test, I found that E230 was getting in the way of the metal.

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230 RDF

Diablo: 17 wins, all KO
Revizer: 3 wins, 1 OS, 2 KO
Win Rate: 85%
Basically what happened here is that once Diablo started swaying, RDF went crazy.

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230 SB Note SB. Check out my thread for it coming soon. Wink

Revizer: 14 wins, 12 OS, 2 KO
Diablo: 6 wins, 2 KO, 4 OS
Win Rate: 30%
MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MF-L Gravity Perseus (Right Spin) AD145 XF
First Ten Rounds Gravity Launched first, second ten Diablo launched first.

Diablo: 11 wins, 1 KO, 10 OS
Gravity: 9 wins, all OS
Win Rate: 55%
As you can see, it really depended on who was launched first. Let's see how it does in Upper Mode ...


MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MF-L Gravity Perseus (Right Spin) AD145 XF
First Ten Rounds Gravity Launched first, second ten Diablo launched first.

Diablo: 16 wins, all OS
Gravity: 4 wins, 3 OS, 1 KO

As you can see, E230 destabilized like CRAZY. Literally, the battles that were Diablo OS were amazing examples of what destabilization is, haha.

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MF-L Gravity Perseus (Left Spin) AD145 XF
First Ten Rounds Gravity Launched first, second ten Diablo launched first.

Diablo: 10 wins, 5 KO, 3 OS, 2 SKO
Gravity: 10 wins, 9 OS, 1 KO
Diablo Win Rate: 50%

Each battle could have really gone either way.


MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230RS

Diablo: 10 wins, all OS
Revizer: 10 wins, 8 OS, 2 KO
Win Rate: 50%

Hmmm... Kinda disappointed.

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 160SB

Diablo: 6 wins, all OS
Revizer: 14 wins, 9 OS, 5 KO
Win Rate: 30%

Lets see how it does in Lower Mode ...

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 160SB

Diablo: 12 wins, 10 OS, 2 KO
Revizer: 8 wins, all OS
Win Rate: 60%

Interesting ... actually, most of the wins Diablo had were big wins.

Synchrome Comparison (Click to View)
A note on E230's mode in this combo: It should be used in Upper Mode if destabilizing s needed against left spin or Gravity. Lower Mode should be used if destabilizing is not needed/ is not against left spin or Gravity.

So, how is it? Any requests?
Isn't this a regular Zero-G KO combo? Wouldn't a heavier metal wheel like Reviser Reviser be better than this? Or is this some kind of Zero-G+ Regular Attack hybrid.

Besides that, I don't think what you tested against is top tier at all. 230CS is definitely not a defense track+bottom combo. If i'm not wrong 160SB is for defense and AD145B is Stamina and if you can I think you should test against BD because that seems to be dominating right now. So I think that's what your supposed to be testing against.
Other than that, could you please specify whether it was a Sway KO or a Regular KO in your test results please. It helps everyone understand how your combo is suppesd to work better.

For the tests requests, could you please test against MF L-Drago Destroy GB145XF as I don't have Diablo.
Thanks for the Zero-G testing anyways!

Most of it was SKO, though every once in a while it would hit the opposing bey for a KO.
As for BD, I do not have it, but I battled it and I won most of the time. Basically, if it hits the beyblade with BD, it is a "crushing blow".

I can test against Revizer Saramanda 160SB.
I do not have L Drago Destroy, sadly, but I do have AD145 XF, if that helps.
(Oct. 14, 2012  1:49 PM)Ginga Blader Wrote: [ -> ]Most of it was SKO, though every once in a while it would hit the opposing bey for a KO.
As for BD, I do not have it, but I battled it and I won most of the time. Basically, if it hits the beyblade with BD, it is a "crushing blow".

I can test against Revizer Saramanda 160SB.
I do not have L Drago Destroy, sadly, but I do have AD145 XF, if that helps.
Maybe L-Drago Guardian? Maybe Gravity? Anyways, have you tried this with GCF? I think it should be better for SKO.

I do have Gravity. No GCF, though.
Edited with tests.
Got anything you can do some Synchrome comparative tests with? Things such as (2 Chrome Wheels) E230CF against the combos you tested against.
Is there a reason practically all the combos you tested against are 230CS ones? Never even heard of that being used in the Zero G attack stadium.
It might be just the best Defense Set Up Ginga has, since he is already using E230.
(Oct. 14, 2012  8:09 PM)Raigeko13 Wrote: [ -> ]Got anything you can do some Synchrome comparative tests with? Things such as (2 Chrome Wheels) E230CF against the combos you tested against.
Tommorow I can do Ifraid Ifraid, Ifraid Saramanda, Revizer Ifraid, Revizer Saramanda, and vice versa.

: Pretty much what Billy said, bit some were against RDF and SB.

Sorry for DP, but ...

New tests for Rai!

Synchrome Comparison (Click to View)
Nice results. Could you try Gravity on left spin? I'm convinced this will have a positive effect
I will, but I do not have more than one BeyLauncher. I will have to use a Hasbro RipCord Launcher, which will probably skew results.

MAJOR EDIT: If I take the Launcher out I my grip, I can switch the spin direction fast enough, with 100% power.
New tests!

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MF-L Gravity Perseus (Left Spin) AD145 XF
First Ten Rounds Gravity Launched first, second ten Diablo launched first.

Diablo: 10 wins, 5 KO, 3 OS, 2 SKO
Gravity: 10 wins, 9 OS, 1 KO
Diablo Win Rate: 50%

Each battle could have really gone either way.


MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230RS

Diablo: 10 wins, all OS
Revizer: 10 wins, 8 OS, 2 KO
Win Rate: 50%

Hmmm... Kinda disappointed.








Updated with new tests!


MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 160SB

Diablo: 6 wins, all OS
Revizer: 14 wins, 9 OS, 5 KO
Win Rate: 30%

Lets see how it does in Lower Mode ...

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 160SB

Diablo: 12 wins, 10 OS, 2 KO
Revizer: 8 wins, all OS
Win Rate: 60%

Interesting ... actually, most of the wins Diablo had were big wins.




Couple Notes:
1. 160SB is good against sway, but it has no defense against smash. Those KOs in the first test were Diablo's recoil.

2. A note on E230's mode in this combo: It should be used in Upper Mode if destabilizing s needed against left spin or Gravity. Lower Mode should be used if destabilizing is not needed/ is not against left spin or Gravity.
Would you like for me to do a CF vs GCF for this combo? I can do either MF or a regular face for Diablo and for the Defense type, I can do Revizer, Saramanda, or Orojya (I only have one of each) with a MSF and 160SB.
Should I?
Sorry I didn't see your post.
Yes, that would be nice, though my guess is that CF would do better, as it would not be grinded away.
Perfect! I just finished the testing and will post it (although not in here because I will also do more testing with different combos).
I would prefer it if you did post it here, to be easier to understand. I hope you understand. Smile
I will provide a link to my testing as it will take up A LOT of space.