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Isnt Mf Flash unicorno 85R2F top tier. I think it deserves to be.
(May. 02, 2016  12:32 AM)GreatgodzeusHD Wrote: [ -> ]Isnt Mf Flash unicorno 85R2F top tier. I think it deserves to be.

There are already a couple Flash variations up there, and I suspect it isn't up there because of how it doesn't line up with Flash.
(May. 02, 2016  12:32 AM)GreatgodzeusHD Wrote: [ -> ]Isnt Mf Flash unicorno 85R2F top tier. I think it deserves to be.
I really hope your not bringing this up because of that one youtuber who likes to use it....
Flash is already pretty bad on LTAC and then your throwing Unicorno which doesn't match up that great on Flash. All the other Flash combinations are a lot better.
It's nice but definitely a Flash with Unicorn on 85 is not very competitive. Thunder Dome said, Unicorn's Weight Distribution and Shape won't match Flash's contact poinst well and 85 is too shot for attacks types of today, as it can KO BD145 and don't even think about E230

I seen it at last event, it can't KO death bd145cs or even Dragoon SA165WD (which is left spin stamina type)

If you want good Flash LTAC. then MF Flash Cetus CH120RF is your best option
(May. 13, 2016  8:47 PM)FIREFIRE Wrote: [ -> ]can anyone know why Bahamadia Dragoon BD145R2F is considered as pure attack?

it seem more like anti-attack. i'm not saying due to BD145 but with correct launch, it's extremely hard to KO + it can KO attack types

i hope this is right thread to ask

@[FIREFIRE] actually brings up a pretty good point here. Why aren't Bahamdia Dragoon BD145 combos considered anti-attack? They're aggressive, they do a pretty good job at bringing down pure attack combos and don't have nearly as much raw attack power as something like Wyvang or Flash.
(May. 13, 2016  9:03 PM)Mitsu Wrote: [ -> ]
(May. 13, 2016  8:47 PM)FIREFIRE Wrote: [ -> ]can anyone know why Bahamadia Dragoon BD145R2F is considered as pure attack?

it seem more like anti-attack. i'm not saying due to BD145 but with correct launch, it's extremely hard o KO + it can KO attack types

i hope this is right thread to ask

@[FIREFIRE] actually brings up a pretty good point here. Why aren't Bahamdia Dragoon BD145 combos considered anti-attack? They're aggressive, they do a pretty good job at bringing down pure attack combos and don't have nearly as much raw attack power as something like Wyvang or Flash.

thanks for showing correct thread.

other then points i and you mentioned. i also think it works pretty well against other anti-attack.

at last event iI used it against Diablo anti-attack. i did pretty good job of withstanding and KOing Diablo but Diablo user won by 3-2

edit:- idk why [)ragon didn;t got good win against anti-attack and left spin defence.


i will do some tests as back up after my parts [which i ordered now] arrive
Would anyone mind considering Pegasus chrome wheel as a very good one for attack? To me this combo performed better than wyvang.. MSF Balro Pegasus W105 RF
(May. 17, 2016  2:27 PM)ronitnath Wrote: [ -> ]Would anyone mind considering Pegasus chrome wheel as a very good one for attack? To me this combo performed better than wyvang.. MSF Balro Pegasus W105 RF
Pegasus, yes it's a pretty good chrome wheel for attack , when paired for Gryph though. Not sure about Balro. And there's a lot of elements to be considered in performance of beyblades.. You should've said the specific combo of the Wyvang Chrome Wheel.
(May. 17, 2016  2:27 PM)ronitnath Wrote: [ -> ]Would anyone mind considering Pegasus chrome wheel as a very good one for attack? To me this combo performed better than wyvang.. MSF Balro Pegasus W105 RF

tbh the person who used it didn't had 2 pegasis.

but really even i think Pegasis ^2 DF105/CH120RF have some potential.

i will do some test once i got my 2nd pegasis as back up
(May. 17, 2016  3:14 PM)FIREFIRE Wrote: [ -> ]
(May. 17, 2016  2:27 PM)ronitnath Wrote: [ -> ]Would anyone mind considering Pegasus chrome wheel as a very good one for attack? To me this combo performed better than wyvang.. MSF Balro Pegasus W105 RF

tbh the person who used it didn't had 2 pegasis.

but really even i think Pegasis ^2 DF105/CH120RF have some potential.

i will do some test once i got my 2nd pegasis as back up

You probably saw my test of Pegasus Pegasus S130 R2F.. It did produce tremendous attacks, but with a very high recoil.

(May. 17, 2016  3:12 PM)Es Iratus Wrote: [ -> ]
(May. 17, 2016  2:27 PM)ronitnath Wrote: [ -> ]Would anyone mind considering Pegasus chrome wheel as a very good one for attack? To me this combo performed better than wyvang.. MSF Balro Pegasus W105 RF
Pegasus, yes it's a pretty good chrome wheel for attack , when paired for Gryph though. Not sure about Balro. And there's a lot of elements to be considered in performance of beyblades.. You should've said the specific combo of the Wyvang Chrome Wheel.

Yes definitely. I was talking about wyvang dragoon SA165 combo. Frankly speaking, Balro did very well when paired with Pegasus, I should write a test of it. But for Pegasus^2, it has high recoil. Tried Pegasus Dragooon S130 RF, which also met upto my expectations.
(May. 17, 2016  3:40 PM)ronitnath Wrote: [ -> ]
(May. 17, 2016  3:14 PM)FIREFIRE Wrote: [ -> ]
(May. 17, 2016  2:27 PM)ronitnath Wrote: [ -> ]Would anyone mind considering Pegasus chrome wheel as a very good one for attack? To me this combo performed better than wyvang.. MSF Balro Pegasus W105 RF

tbh the person who used it didn't had 2 pegasis.

but really even i think Pegasis ^2 DF105/CH120RF have some potential.

i will do some test once i got my 2nd pegasis as back up

You probably saw my test of Pegasus Pegasus S130 R2F.. It did produce tremendous attacks, but with a very high recoil.

(May. 17, 2016  3:12 PM)Es Iratus Wrote: [ -> ]
(May. 17, 2016  2:27 PM)ronitnath Wrote: [ -> ]Would anyone mind considering Pegasus chrome wheel as a very good one for attack? To me this combo performed better than wyvang.. MSF Balro Pegasus W105 RF
Pegasus, yes it's a pretty good chrome wheel for attack , when paired for Gryph though. Not sure about Balro. And there's a lot of elements to be considered in performance of beyblades.. You should've said the specific combo of the Wyvang Chrome Wheel.

Yes definitely. I was talking about wyvang dragoon SA165 combo. Frankly speaking, Balro did very well when paired with Pegasus, I should write a test of it. But for Pegasus^2, it has high recoil. Tried Pegasus Dragooon S130 RF, which also met upto my expectations.

yeah it had very good attack but still it couldn't KO that Death defence [which is common in synchome as they don't have as large contact point to KO bey with such a smooth surface]. though Pegasis DF105RF did KOed with no eforts


btw if you have time. can you formally test that combo vs top-tier defence 20 rounds?

use this app it will make easier https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&...9774,d.dGY

if you need any help in testing. feel free to whatsapp me

edit:- i guess you didn't got good win with wyvang dragoon because you're not used to launching left spin attack types [whicn is very hard and need lot of practice]

i usually get 70% against Reviser BD145RDF. only thing was better was Bahamadia Dragoon which always got 100% or 90% if my launch not good
Yes, it is better to test it. They wouldn't add it to the list without formal tests and other people's confirmation. Plus as FIREFIRE said. It also goes down to how you launched it.. would be good to list down what accessories you used and the stadium aswell. Also, the condition of the parts that you are using.
did anyone thought to put MSF-M Bahamadia Dragoon BD145R2F/LRF to balance?

isn't it's more of an Anti-Attack? from what seen at events and from my test, it was able to take hits from Mid and High attackers thought it had problem handling LTAC but that problem is with Diablo/Wyvang Dragoon/Behemoth BD145RF too. of course it can KO too lol [attacking and defending from attackers. thats what anti-attackers should do right?]

i know i posted this before, but i stupidly posted some unneeded stuff with it. [sorry for that]
Anything for a Blitz combo?
Look at the archive section blitz used to be top tier
(Jun. 10, 2016  2:21 AM)Beybladerocx2 Wrote: [ -> ]Anything for a Blitz combo?

Blitz is very hiigh recoil and light weight compared todays zero-g attacker, so it's very hard to KO with it [experinced user can KO with it though] but it will mostly trashed by heavier attacker

Flash is top-tier as it has more smash compared to blitz but it also can be used against synchorm attackers [don't get me wrong. even flash have lots of problem agains heavier sychrom attacker but if your launch is good then flash can give them a tough fight]
you guys should try RB(rubber ball) instead of rubber flat it is always making impact with the ground so that it is even crazier!!!!!!!!
(Feb. 19, 2017  6:54 PM)bigdaddy4o Wrote: [ -> ]you guys should try RB(rubber ball) instead of rubber flat it is always making impact with the ground so that it is even crazier!!!!!!!!

Actually, a ball always has only one point of contact with the floor, if you think about it.
Had we considered to add Death wheel to Stadium section? I know Death is really tier 2 for stamina but seeing Duo getting exceedingly rare and new bladers to MFB should have 1 second easier to get option which still servers as pretty useable alternative to Duo. Even when in Mumbai, if someone don't have Duo (aka 98.35% of time lol) and want to use a good stamina type, we recommend em to use Death instead and it goes pretty well through event and has placed several times too (eh not that BD145CS one lol).
(Jul. 16, 2017  6:51 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: [ -> ]Had we considered to add Death wheel to Stadium section? I know Death is really tier 2 for stamina but seeing Duo getting exceedingly rare and new bladers to MFB should have 1 second easier to get option which still servers as pretty useable alternative to Duo. Even when in Mumbai, if someone don't have Duo (aka 98.35% of time lol) and want to use a good stamina type, we recommend em to use Death instead and it goes pretty well through event and has placed several times too (eh not that BD145CS one lol).

part rarity shouldn't be a factor when talking top tier list if death is not up to par with those other stamina wheels then it should not be their
@[ronitnath] k1mboslice1305's partner combo is Pegasis Pegasis S130R2F. He has experience with it. Maybe you can ask him. :)
(Jul. 16, 2017  7:40 AM)mj9 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2017  6:51 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: [ -> ]Had we considered to add Death wheel to Stadium section? I know Death is really tier 2 for stamina but seeing Duo getting exceedingly rare and new bladers to MFB should have 1 second easier to get option which still servers as pretty useable alternative to Duo. Even when in Mumbai, if someone don't have Duo (aka 98.35% of time lol) and want to use a good stamina type, we recommend em to use Death instead and it goes pretty well through event and has placed several times too (eh not that BD145CS one lol).

part rarity shouldn't be a factor when talking top tier list if death is not up to par with those other stamina wheels then it should not be their

Though Death is still not far behind and if you see there's only 1 option for stamina (Genbu SR200 is really a balance type/wobblier) and as this list is meant to help new members to be competitive. But at the movement there is just one option and which is getting harder to get. If someone doesn't doesn't know about Death and doesn't have Duo they won't have any option to play stamina then maybe Phantom (which you know recoil eats it)
(Jul. 16, 2017  9:26 AM)TL14 Wrote: [ -> ]@[ronitnath] k1mboslice1305's partner combo is Pegasis Pegasis S130R2F. He has experience with it. Maybe you can ask him. Smile

Ahh thats my combo too. It has great smash attacks. But sadly sometimes outclassed by wyvang and balro...
(Jul. 16, 2017  6:51 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: [ -> ]Had we considered to add Death wheel to Stadium section?

Death was on the list for a while before Duo eclipsed it.

(Jul. 16, 2017  9:32 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: [ -> ]this list is meant to help new members to be competitive.

That's not really its main purpose. This thread simply enumerates the best of the best.

Death's only real unique use is to counter Dragooon. To quote [)ragon...

(Jul. 01, 2013  2:48 AM)[)ragon Wrote: [ -> ]It's not overwhelmingly top-tier for conventional same-spin stamina types, but it stomps on spin stealers pretty bad.

Reviser Dragooon BD145RDF vs. Duo Cygnus W145WD
Kinda sorta worn RDF. New-ish WD.
Dragooon: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Cygnus: wins, 0/10
Dragoon win rate: 100%

Reviser Dragooon BD145RDF vs. Death Cygnus W145WD
Kinda sorta worn RDF. New-ish WD.
Dragooon: wins, 0/10 (All OS)
Cygnus: wins, 10/10
Dragoon win rate: 0%

It's not that Death had higher LAD, it's just that Dragooon couldn't seem to actually steal much spin from death...

EDIT: I've got to start typing faster... It would seem that Death actually does better agaisnt RDF spin stealers, but just the same against SA165EWD. I agree 100% that Duo is a better choice, but I think you're making Death out to be a horrible piece of trash when it really isn't. Just because something isn't top-tier doesn't mean it's useless.
(Jul. 18, 2017  5:39 AM)ronitnath Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2017  9:26 AM)TL14 Wrote: [ -> ]@[ronitnath] k1mboslice1305's partner combo is Pegasis Pegasis S130R2F. He has experience with it. Maybe you can ask him. Smile

Ahh thats my combo too. It has great smash attacks. But sadly sometimes outclassed by wyvang and balro...

He's using it since the beginning of 2014 I beleive. He makes cool B.O.B.s with it. I highly reccomend his channel. Smile