I think it needs further testing, but it seems amazing. IMHO
Okay so I just tested MF-H Duo Cygnus E230 RSF
MF-H Duo Cygnus E230 RSF VS Balro Balro W145 WSF
DC won 20 matches out of 20
Win Percentage: 100%
I have to say this combo did excellent and with all of balros attack power E230 destroyed it totally
I'll do more testing later.
Phoenix Balro SR200R2F/LRF needs to be tested. I'm having galaxy blade do some tests for me.
(Nov. 22, 2013 12:32 AM)Striker Phantom Wrote: [ -> ]Phoenix Balro SR200R2F/LRF needs to be tested. I'm having galaxy blade do some tests for me.
Why not balro balro? And why sr200 ?
(Nov. 22, 2013 12:33 AM)DRAGON KING Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 22, 2013 12:32 AM)Striker Phantom Wrote: [ -> ]Phoenix Balro SR200R2F/LRF needs to be tested. I'm having galaxy blade do some tests for me.
Why not balro balro? And why sr200 ?
I am actually thinking about making a thread for this combo except it would be Balro Pheonic SR200LRF I have a pretty neat concept behind it, but there is no testing on this combo so no it should not be added, and this combo is very easily countered as it is exceptionally tall for an attack type.
(Nov. 22, 2013 12:44 AM)Yuko Ray14 Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 22, 2013 12:33 AM)DRAGON KING Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 22, 2013 12:32 AM)Striker Phantom Wrote: [ -> ]Phoenix Balro SR200R2F/LRF needs to be tested. I'm having galaxy blade do some tests for me.
Why not balro balro? And why sr200 ?
I am actually thinking about making a thread for this combo except it would be Balro Pheonic SR200LRF I have a pretty need concept behind it, but there is no testing on this combo so no it should not be added, and this combo is very easily countered as it is exceptionally tall for an attack type.
Sounds interesting. I want to see lots of tests on that combo, because of it's height. Make a thread after making tests. I think you should consider replacing SR200. I might be wrong, but that's just my opinion.
I've got something to propose... SA165 defense. Not only does it have a lot if LAD, but in ZRG Attack Mode it brings down more weight and doesn't do anything to the contact points. I will provide tests as soon as possible.
Um... big red light going up there...
SA165 Defense is TERRIBLE against same-spin opponents. It has a tendency to resist Push-KO when used against an opposite-spin opponent (I don't know why, but it does this funky looking swerve-ish thing at the tornado ridge and slides back in every time), but against same-spin BBD145 is vastly superior.
(Nov. 23, 2013 1:03 AM)theblackdragon Wrote: [ -> ]Um... big red light going up there...
SA165 Defense is TERRIBLE against same-spin opponents. It has a tendency to resist Push-KO when used against an opposite-spin opponent (I don't know why, but it does this funky looking swerve-ish thing at the tornado ridge and slides back in every time), but against same-spin BBD145 is vastly superior.
It also has the big Balance problem. I think SA165BWD is the max for SA165. Any worse balance will kill it. most defense tips have bad balance so used with SA165 isn't a very good idea.
Unless it's RDF. But against right spin, RDF is just a meh. That's why there are left spin SA165 customs.
Anyone else like to give their input? I think all of us would be happy to see a couple small changes in the list with all the testing we've done in the last couple months. Once we get everyone's opinion I think we can send off a request to the advanced members and see if they can change it up a little.
(Dec. 01, 2013 7:34 PM)theblackdragon Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone else like to give their input? I think all of us would be happy to see a couple small changes in the list with all the testing we've done in the last couple months. Once we get everyone's opinion I think we can send off a request to the advanced members and see if they can change it up a little.
I think I am good with it, but what about the W2D thing?
(Dec. 01, 2013 7:55 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 01, 2013 7:34 PM)theblackdragon Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone else like to give their input? I think all of us would be happy to see a couple small changes in the list with all the testing we've done in the last couple months. Once we get everyone's opinion I think we can send off a request to the advanced members and see if they can change it up a little.
I think I am good with it, but what about the W2D thing?
Personally, I think W2D might need some more testing before being suggested.
(unless I missed a bunch of tests, if so, my bad for not keeping up, haha).
W2D isn't gonna go up there any time soon. EWD covers everything W2D does better with more benefit stamina-wise. The only time I would use W2D is in Zero-G, where EWD will be sway KOed by just about anything, but this is the competitive list for standard format, where EWD is superior.
Phantom Cancer SR200TB vs Genbull Genbull TH170TB
Alternating launches
Genbull wins: 3/10(all KO)
Phantom wins: 17/10(all OS)
Phantom Win Percentage: 85%
Genbull^2 SR200 TB vs Phantom Cygnus SR200 TB
Genbull^2 Win: 10/10. 100% (All OS)
Well I'll do more W2D tests ASAP.
(Dec. 03, 2013 2:00 AM)RagerBlade Wrote: [ -> ]Well I'll do more W2D tests ASAP.
That's awesome, but it seems either way, for BB-10, it won't make it, anytime soon, at least.
It's proven to be a decent sub for EWD, but again, nothing on par for the Tier List.
(Dec. 03, 2013 2:02 AM)Leone19 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 03, 2013 2:00 AM)RagerBlade Wrote: [ -> ]Well I'll do more W2D tests ASAP.
That's awesome, but it seems either way, for BB-10, it won't make it, anytime soon, at least.
It's proven to be a decent sub for EWD, but again, nothing on par for the Tier List.
It has precision so it may have potentiometer for other combos. That potential can only be released if we do tests! "Everyday I'm testing combos"
W2D is good. But its not worthy to be on the tier list.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree. It does basically what EWD does, just not as effectively.
The thing I do like about a fresh W2D is if it gets attacked it can grab the tornado ridge which the other Ds cant do. It's a niche part though and that effect doesn't always happen. It's also very easy to get destroyed by landing on a hard surface after getting KO'd. Not top tier but can be used to win.
What about its potential in Zero-G?
Edit: Oh, when I read the it first I didn't see that, Thank-You Dark.
Does anyone think anyone can test in BB-10* it did well against F230 in BB-10.
(Dec. 03, 2013 3:09 AM)Kyler_the best Wrote: [ -> ]What aout its potential in Zero-G?
This is BB10 discussion not Zero G.
Well asides from that I'm good with all the requests. Could you (TBD) please list them so I know what your requesting and no one has any last minute issues?