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ED145 is on the competitive combo list, but Rock isn't. Storm is a good Attack wheel. Rock is not a good Defense wheel. Storm can still knock out top tier Defense combos. Rock struggles with defeating top tier attack combos.

EDIT: What I"m saying is that Storm still works well in competitive meta, but Rock doesn't.
(Jul. 29, 2010  1:14 PM)Cpt. Squirrel Wrote: [ -> ]I definitely think, if Kei's results are corroborated, L Drago 90WF (can't remember if it had a MF) should be added to the list.
It had a Metal Face.
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-The-Dest...Drago-90WF
(Jul. 29, 2010  1:17 PM)Daegor42 Wrote: [ -> ]ED145 is on the competitive combo list, but Rock isn't. Storm is a good Attack wheel. Rock is not a good Defense wheel. Storm can still knock out top tier Defense combos. Rock struggles with defeating top tier attack combos.

EDIT: What I"m saying is that Storm still works well in competitive meta, but Rock doesn't.

As far as I know, Rock is the best defence wheel for Hasbro peeps.

Dude said: "In fact, it's more common to include budget options in Competitive Meta analysis because they will be there because they are exactly that, budget and easy access."
(Jul. 29, 2010  1:32 PM)Cpt. Squirrel Wrote: [ -> ]As far as I know, Rock is the best defence wheel for Hasbro peeps.

Dude said: "In fact, it's more common to include budget options in Competitive Meta analysis because they will be there because they are exactly that, budget and easy access."

Yes, but my point is it's not a good Defense wheel in general. Storm is the best Attack wheel for Hasbro players, and it is also a good Attack wheel in general.

There is a limit to how far usefulness should give way to budget. I don't think Dark should ever be on the competitive list even if Hasbro sends one to the house of everyone in America free of charge.
(Jul. 29, 2010  1:36 PM)Daegor42 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 29, 2010  1:32 PM)Cpt. Squirrel Wrote: [ -> ]As far as I know, Rock is the best defence wheel for Hasbro peeps.

Dude said: "In fact, it's more common to include budget options in Competitive Meta analysis because they will be there because they are exactly that, budget and easy access."

Yes, but my point is it's not a good Defense wheel in general. Storm is the best Attack wheel for Hasbro players, and it is also a good Attack wheel in general.

That's not really the point. Most Hasbro users won't be able to buy the blades in the list, so they'd have to settle with Rock. Thus, with dude's logic, it should be in the list.
(Jul. 29, 2010  1:39 PM)Cpt. Squirrel Wrote: [ -> ]That's not really the point. Most Hasbro users won't be able to buy the blades in the list, so they'd have to settle with Rock. Thus, with dude's logic, it should be in the list.

I see what you're getting at. Well, this will all be a moot point when Earth Eagle comes out.
(Jul. 29, 2010  1:42 PM)Daegor42 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 29, 2010  1:39 PM)Cpt. Squirrel Wrote: [ -> ]That's not really the point. Most Hasbro users won't be able to buy the blades in the list, so they'd have to settle with Rock. Thus, with dude's logic, it should be in the list.

I see what you're getting at. Well, this will all be a moot point when Earth Eagle comes out.

If it comes out in August...

*crosses fingers*
We all have the same means to get the 'unreleased' Beyblades (except OkiBlaze ...), so in my opinion it is fair to leave only the very best combinations. In the same logic, it is pointless to actually open a Hybrid Wheel Format in Organised Play considering all the same conditions are required to get the Metal System Beyblades. If you do not have enough money or are too young, then you probably cannot buy even many Beyblades in your local stores, and it is possibly more difficult to get to those stores depending on how far they are, since they cannot drive a car ... Anyway, you understand. Every kid could just 'beg' their parents to order several items online for their birthday, or for other special occasions like Christmas.
i know i good stamina/defence combo

ray leone d125 mf
(Jul. 29, 2010  6:36 PM)skyforce Wrote: [ -> ]i know i good stamina/defence combo

ray leone d125 mf
Metal Flat has not been released yet. Moreover, post tests if you really discovered stamina and defence in that combination.
(Jul. 29, 2010  1:42 PM)Daegor42 Wrote: [ -> ]I see what you're getting at. Well, this will all be a moot point when Earth Eagle comes out.

Lightning L Drago is ALREADY out.
What do you mean...
(Jul. 29, 2010  7:58 PM)gurugulu Wrote: [ -> ]What do you mean...

[Image: BMF_4.jpg]

Libruhhh
No way. OMG Gasp I can finally replace my fake lightning ldrago.
(Jul. 29, 2010  8:08 PM)gurugulu Wrote: [ -> ]No way. OMG Gasp I can finally replace my fake lightning ldrago.

>>telling everyone you actually own a fake beyblade

Refer to my avatar for my reaction.
My dad bought it. He made the mistake of buying a fake blade not me.
(Jul. 29, 2010  8:30 PM)gurugulu Wrote: [ -> ]My dad bought it. He made the mistake of buying a fake blade not me.

Ouch.

That's not so bad, he was just trying to buy you a present...

I feel like a carp now. Smith
why is libra not allowed???
(Jul. 30, 2010  9:25 AM)Perseus 6.0 Wrote: [ -> ]why is libra not allowed???

http://worldbeyblade.org/search.php
(Jul. 30, 2010  9:26 AM)The LVJ Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 30, 2010  9:25 AM)Perseus 6.0 Wrote: [ -> ]why is libra not allowed???

http://worldbeyblade.org/search.php

Better yet, http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php?...Over_Libra
I feel MF Pegasis 145RF should be added ._.
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Devastat...#pid314332
IF added, state that the fit between Face-Wheel-Track-Bottom is tight and that are to be no wobbles. Smile
(Jul. 30, 2010  6:37 PM)Jerf Wrote: [ -> ]I feel MF Pegasis 145RF should be added ._.
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Devastat...#pid314332
IF added, state that the fit between Face-Wheel-Track-Bottom is tight and that are to be no wobbles. Smile

Whilst videos and opinions of it deem the custom to be very impressive, I think peoples' actual testing of it requires more rounds, i.e. something like 20 instead of 10. You can extrapolate as much as you want but a higher number of rounds gives a much more accurate view than estimation.
I'm going to use my new webcam to make videos of top tier MF Beys,but using MF-2 instead.

Any suggestions?
Add to tests that have already been done. Test things like Quetz 90RF, Storm Pegasus 100RF against MF2 Earth Bull C145WB, and see if the little bit of extra weight on the defense combos increase win percentages.
not to sound like a total noob but where can you get metal facebolts?