ok i mentioned a while ago in my introduction that me and a group of mates had plans of making beyblades out of metal with a foundry in the back garden of my mates house, then turning this into a real sport, and hopefully selling parts etc. well just to let you all know if your interested in the project that our site is up, we can be found at
www.realblading.tk
And ofcourse we are aware of the metal fight beyblades, but we're making these with the same layout as the original beyblades. these will be designed to spin at very high speeds too.
so yeah if your interested in this join up
oh and a note to the admins/ mods: This is NOT intended to steal traffic from this fantastic community, and i would be more than happy to personally put a link up to this site on ours
peace.
I certainly respect you guys making your own stuff, but I really don't think this is 'real blading'. A sport is.. well. Gah. I'm gonna wait for another more intelligent staff member to see this
Beyblade is not a sport lol I don't get why people would think that it's a sport... :\
Nice website though
(Jun. 13, 2009 11:33 PM)Aqua Wrote: [ -> ]Beyblade is not a sport lol I don't get why people would think that it's a sport... :\
Nice website though
oh thanks about the site haha, yeah i didnt mean as in a physical sport thats gonna keep a person in shape etc, but in the UK there are people that consider things like darts a sport (infact its even on the bbc sport site if im not mistaken) and others that even consider it a sport to roll cheese down a hill.
How would you stop people making massive, heavy ones that are near unbeatable?
(Jun. 13, 2009 11:37 PM)Neek Wrote: [ -> ]How would you stop people making massive, heavy ones that are near unbeatable?
by employing a weight limit for the blade to be legal
or by wiring their blade to a battery next time they try to pick it up
A weight limit wouldn't help..... You would have to limit it more than that.
(Jun. 13, 2009 11:41 PM)Pichuscute Wrote: [ -> ]A weight limit wouldn't help..... You would have to limit it more than that.
Well i guess a general limit in the blades mass would be needed, just to stop someones blade having a stupidly high velocity
He's right. You need a lot of complex rules to make sure people cannot just build game breaking parts. You'd better get to testing and writing.
fair point
just at the moment we're testing the materials and techniques themselves, we will look into all this stuff in more depth too obviously, also safety is quite high on our priorities at the moment (no-one is gonna want metalic shrapnel flying at them) so we need to make sure the metal is bonded well
(Jun. 13, 2009 11:33 PM)Ampz Wrote: [ -> ]oh thanks about the site haha, yeah i didnt mean as in a physical sport thats gonna keep a person in shape etc, but in the UK there are people that consider things like darts a sport (infact its even on the bbc sport site if im not mistaken) and others that even consider it a sport to roll cheese down a hill.
I know that you didn't mean that Beyblade was a physical sport, but it still wouldn't be considered an 'official' sport anyway.
oh yeah im not expecting it to become recognised as a proper sport, we're trying to make a version that might appeal to older bladers more than anything. and although we might sell some parts, we dont do this for money, we just want everone to have a good time
I can appreciate that you want to make your own spinning tops - I'd like to too at some point - and it is an interesting personal project you have, however, some points need to be addressed.
These are not beyblades. On your site you make numerous references to the beyblades tops, the anime, etc, but what you are making are in no way affiliated with Takara Tomy or the beyblade franchise and it is wrong to advertise them as such.
Due to various reasons, Beyblade is not a sport and never will be. The only way spinning tops could possibly be a sport is if people got to design their own (yes, I am aware this is what you are attempting), however, this just leads to the perfect spinning top being made, negating all competitveness. You mentioned that you'd combat this by instigating a weight limit however, this makes you no different from TT and still negates competitveness.
Comparing spinning tops to darts is just silly....cheese rolling I can sort of understand but that's more of a competitive tradition than a sport. >_>
Looking over your website, if youwould like people to take you seriously then I suggest you correct some of the smaller spelling errors and consider revising some of the sentence structures in general......
"Now, no doubt you've heard of the new toy beyblades called "metal fight beyblades". As you'll see below these completely alter the design of the beyblades people have grown acustomed to. We at realblading think making them based on the proper design would be better"
Proper design? How can you call the plastics 'proper designs' as opposed to the MFB? Niether is more nor less proper than the other, they're just different. It is not good to favour a design simply because of nostalgia.....in all aspects of life you would do best to keep your mind open to new ideas.
Also, why do you think TT have made the new MFB this way? They may be in it mainly for the money, they are a profit company after all, but they still test all of their ideas out and a lot of thought would have gone into perfecting such a game. The MFB design is superior to that of the plastic series if you wish to create all metal spinning tops. The plastic designs are intricate and many of them will break if a metal version is made.....plus all metal parts will lead to lots of wear.
I'm at a loss as to whether to close this or not....you haven't done anything wrong as such but I'm not sure there's any discussion value or, if there is, it may only lead to pointless and already tired debates. I'll leave it for now but bear in mind that at the moment you're sight is recieving hits and the WBO aren't really benefiting from this in any way. This may be closed by another staff member later or on, or even me if the thread turns into another 'beyblades is a sport lol' threads.
EDIT: Obviously this was written whilst you posted that you were not searching to make beyblade a recognized sport but even then most of the parts still stand and that just brings up more points regarding setting your own rules, weight limits and such....
(Jun. 14, 2009 12:05 AM)Rocky Wrote: [ -> ]I can appreciate that you want to make your own spinning tops - I'd like to too at some point - and it is an interesting personal project you have, however, some points need to be addressed.
These are [b]not[/i] beyblades. On your site you make numerous references to the beyblades tops, the anime, etc, but what you are making are in no way affiliated with Takara Tomy or the beyblade franchise and it is wrong to advertise them as such.
Due to various reasons, Beyblade is not a sport and never will be. The only way spinning tops could possibly be a sport is if people got to design their own (yes, I am aware this is what you are attempting), however, this just leads to the perfect spinning top being made, negating all competitveness. You mentioned that you'd combat this by instigating a weight limit however, this makes you no different from TT and still negates competitveness.
Comparing spinning tops to darts is just silly....cheese rolling I can sort of understand but that's more of a competitive tradition than a sport. >_>
Looking over your website, if youwould like people to take you seriously then I suggest you correct some of the smaller spelling errors and consider revising some of the sentence structures in general......
"Now, no doubt you've heard of the new toy beyblades called "metal fight beyblades". As you'll see below these completely alter the design of the beyblades people have grown acustomed to. We at realblading think making them based on the proper design would be better"
Proper design? How can you call the plastics 'proper designs' as opposed to the MFB? Niether is more nor less proper than the other, they're just different. It is not good to favour a design simply because of nostalgia.....in all aspects of life you would do best to keep your mind open to new ideas.
Also, why do you think TT have made the new MFB this way? They may be in it mainly for the money, they are a profit company after all, but they still test all of their ideas out and a lot of thought would have gone into perfecting such a game. The MFB design is superior to that of the plastic series if you wish to create all metal spinning tops. The plastic designs are intricate and many of them will break if a metal version is made.....plus all metal parts will lead to lots of wear.
I'm at a loss as to whether to close this or not....you haven't done anything wrong as such but I'm not sure there's any discussion value or, if there is, it may only lead to pointless and already tired debates. I'll leave it for now but bear in mind that at the moment you're sight is recieving hits and the WBO aren't really benefiting from this in any way. This may be closed by another staff member later or on, or even me if the thread turns into another 'beyblades is a sport lol' threads.
EDIT: Obviously this was written whilst you posted that you were not searching to make beyblade a recognized sport but even then most of the parts still stand and that just brings up more points regarding setting your own rules, weight limits and such....
i appreciate the feedback rocky, and i did infact negact to mention on the site that this is a very much unnoficial project, which i will be changing ofcourse, and if you would like me to i can post a link to WBO in return, although i can understand if you would preffer not, with WBO being about the official blades, and ours being an unnofical project. The site is worded poorly because i was up till 6 AM adding content, so i will be reviewing over it and making the changes neccessary, thanks for leaving constructive feedback
I agree with Rocky.
Also, shouldn't this be in the "General Disscussion" forum?
All affiliating stuff is up to Brad. Though I doubt he'll be too keen on you linking here, I cannot speak on his behalf. If you want to affiliate with the WBO then you should email or PM him and await his reply. :\
Also, lol at my failure to code.
I think it's safe to say Brad won't want to affiliate. Rocky covered most of the points pretty well so I don't see the point of me regurgitating that. . This product is not manufactured or licensed by Takara-Tomy or it's international affiliates, therefore it cannot be considered a beyblade.
I'm trying to say this in the least rude way as possible, and I think I'm failing. So let me end of with saying, I am interested in seeing your end product, but all the previous points made in this thread still stand.
ok then
right i think all's been said that can be in this thread so im gonna leave it at this.
If anyones interested in the project they know the site.
i'll finish on a note we can all agree on, BEYBLADE IS AWESOME!
I agree with absolutely everything Rocky said. Seriously, it's my opinion verbatim.
I've always been interested in Metal versions of the original plastics, but I would be careful how similar you make them. If you keep up some of what you are doing you are just begging for a lawsuit.
Do you have a pic of any of the blades you have made so far?
This idea.....is....different. I am interested and have joined the site. There is a good chance that I will be buying some.
(Jun. 14, 2009 6:43 PM)matt2796 Wrote: [ -> ]Do you have a pic of any of the blades you have made so far?
This idea.....is....different. I am interested and have joined the site. There is a good chance that I will be buying some.
No offence to anyone, but why would you buy them. It would kind of be a waste of money...
They are illegal.
Not professionally made, therefore unreliable and not really safe.
Money could be spent better elsewhere, like buying MFB which is where beyblade is headed.
tbh, I don't see the point of "real blading", when official, legal and professionally made beyblades could be used, epcecially now that MFB has began. I could see this being done as a small side project during beyblade's hiatus but now... no.
(Jun. 14, 2009 7:05 PM)Aqua Wrote: [ -> ]No offence to anyone, but why would you buy them. It would kind of be a waste of money...
They are illegal.
Not professionally made, therefore unreliable and not really safe.
Money could be spent better elsewhere, like buying MFB which is where beyblade is headed.
tbh, I don't see the point of "real blading", when official, legal and professionally made beyblades could be used, epcecially now that MFB has began. I could see this being done as a small side project during beyblade's hiatus but now... no.
Well, I would buy some depending on the price. I guess that I am one of the only people here that think that it would be fun launching a spinning top at 2,000 rpm.
I thought our blades spun at 9000 or so rpm?
Wasn't there this launcher for plastics that could tell you the rpm of ur blade?..
If this is the case then there has been a miscalculation, the design is based on a beyblade launcher and enhanced so it is going to be faster than a standard launcher either way. i am looking into this now