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Since nobody here seems to think there's any other media that isn't from Asia, does anyone here read American or English comic books, or even French, Spanish, any comic books at all?
Just finished reading V for Vendetta by Allen Moore (yes, it's also a film Tired) and I thought it was pretty amazing.
I was going to try to get into Marvel comics after seeing X-men Origins, but I have no idea where to start, there are so many different series to each comic that issue 1 isn't actualy starting the series from the very begining. Any help here?
(May. 13, 2009  11:33 PM)NeekAlert Wrote: [ -> ]I was going to try to get into Marvel comics after seeing X-men Origins, but I have no idea where to start, there are so many different series to each comic that issue 1 isn't actualy starting the series from the very begining. Any help here?

I think this is one of the reasons that the manga model has proven to be so successful worldwide. Many American comics are owned by corporations rather than artists; so, literally hundreds of artists and continuities exist for one character, and it makes the story rather loose and there is often no single "canon". Whereas most manga are the property of the artist, and therefore there is only one story to follow.

Not trying to turn this into a manga thread, just throwing this out there.
I read manga in different languages? I don't think that counts though. XD

Um, only thing I can think of is the Beano. I loved that when I was little. XD Oh and I read the comics in newspapers. *fails*
I occasionally read graphic novels such as the said V for Vendetta and Watchmen, but I would hardly say I am an enthusiast. Regular comics are stuff I used to read a bit when I was like seven to nine.

If I remember correctly I used to like:
1)Superman
2)Batman
3) The Phantom

Occasionally I would read Spiderman but that was pretty rare.
(May. 13, 2009  11:33 PM)NeekAlert Wrote: [ -> ]I was going to try to get into Marvel comics after seeing X-men Origins, but I have no idea where to start, there are so many different series to each comic that issue 1 isn't actualy starting the series from the very beginning. Any help here?

In all honesty, it's a judgment call.
With comics like Hellboy, or anything that's on Dark Horse, there's a fixed "This is the first book" kind of deal since it's a relatively new comic.
But yeah, with things like X-Men and Spiderman, they've just been around so long they have to continually rehash. I wouldn't bother starting from the beginning of the story, I'd start at the beginning of a certain arc, like Ultimate X-Men.
For you though, X-Men I'd say Uncanny X-Men. Picks up after the 3rd film with elements of origins as well, and deals with the rebirth of the Phoenix force clone.
Deadpool, go for Deadpool Volume 1 (nice and easy Grin)
Spidey, Amazing Spider-Man: Volume 1: Coming Home has the best artwork, and great characterization.
I'm insanely picky with what I'll read, if the artwork isn't so amazing I think my brain might melt, or the storytelling isn't absolutely breathtaking, it'll be either in the bin, or back to the shop before I've got past the 2nd chapter Tired
Khei: Graphic novels are just comics that were released as single issues, sown together in to a volume for convenience, so you're still just reading comics.
Mm, I dunno if it counts as a comic but I read something called Black Bob when I was little. Something about a sheepdog......

Also, I am not sure if it is fair to say that comics and graphic novels are exactly the same thing......
I don't read comics and can't find them anyway. I don't like they're style and often get bored when reading them. There is too much speech on one page. While I find Manga to have a nice balance of pictures and text.
(May. 14, 2009  2:46 AM)jsc Wrote: [ -> ]I don't read comics and can't find them anyway. I don't like they're style and often get bored when reading them. There is too much speech on one page. While I find Manga to have a nice balance of pictures and text.

... wow
Looks like you're in a rude awakening when you find out what a novel is, jsc.

Also, uh, does Scott Pilgrim count?
(May. 14, 2009  12:11 AM)Rocky Wrote: [ -> ]Mm, I dunno if it counts as a comic but I read something called Black Bob when I was little. Something about a sheepdog......

Also, I am not sure if it is fair to say that comics and graphic novels are exactly the same thing......

I think it's more that there's a difference in comics and comic books... Graphic novels are just bound comic books, most even have the original cover art used to break it in to chapters...
I always read:

1. X-Men
2. Superman
3. Batman
WHO WILL BE BATMAN!?!
BATMAN IS DEAD! They just buried Bruce Wayne in Final Crisis.
They buried him..? I thought Darkseid shot him with his Omega Beams..

Dude isn't dead. PLUS it was M. Manhunter they buried in Final Crisis.

Haha, and I was moreso referring to who was taking over after Battle for the Cowl.

I'm pretty sure it's carp and Damian as Bats and Robin, but that's what everyone else thinks, too. Haha
No... Batman definitely dies in Final Crisis. Those beams freakin obliterated him, you saw Superman holding his charred corpse! And they definitely buried him, if not then I'd be MAJORLY worried as to who's in the grave.
Green Lantern and The Flash are the only people who show up to his unmarked grave, buried next to his parents... Poor sod.
Not too fussed about battle of the cowl, but I'll miss Bruce Wayne...
Its really wierd, because today I was just thinking about seeing if I could get my hands on any english Beyblade comics.

I have been reading Green Lantern and Iron Man comics for years! I have a bunch of other random ones too. I just go through 'em every so often, but I'm not religious about getting new ones.

A comic series/graphic novel series I'd reccommend is the Runaways by Marvel. One of my all time favorite graphic novel series.
I read all Jhonen Vasquez (Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, Squee, I Feel Sick, Invader Zim, etc) and Roman Dirge Comics (Lenore). I also loooooooveeee Jamie Smart's Space Raoul, the Amory Wars, and The Umbrella Academy.
My brother reads manga and DC comics. (Stuff like Superman, Marvel like.) He got me into DC a little i guess, not as much as i like manga but i kind of like DC. but he also had this thing for 5 year olds which i read, it's called Tiny Titans. It's about Teen Titans as kids and they go to school and are really short. Favourite comics!
ok. maybe I phrased that wrong. I just don't think Comics are interesting.. You always know whats gonna happen... thats kinda what i meant.
(May. 15, 2009  12:03 AM)dieddead46 Wrote: [ -> ]No... Batman definitely dies in Final Crisis. Those beams freakin obliterated him, you saw Superman holding his charred corpse! And they definitely buried him, if not then I'd be MAJORLY worried as to who's in the grave.
Green Lantern and The Flash are the only people who show up to his unmarked grave, buried next to his parents... Poor sod.
Not too fussed about battle of the cowl, but I'll miss Bruce Wayne...

Okay.. not saying you're wrong or anything.. but read this and tell me he's dead again.

From Wiki:
Quote:Making a rare exception, Batman uses a gun loaded with a Radion (which is poisonous to the New Gods) bullet to shoot Darkseid's shoulder just as Darkseid unleashes his Omega Sanction, the "life that is death", upon Batman.[78] However, the Omega Sanction apparently does not actually kill its victims: instead, it sends their consciousness traveling through parallel worlds. Although the presence of his corpse would seem to contradict that he would be alive, at the conclusion of Final Crisis it is suggested that Batman has been sent to the distant past, as a man in the Batman costume watches the passing of Anthro.
(May. 15, 2009  1:51 AM)Evan Wrote: [ -> ]I read all Jhonen Vasquez (Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, Squee, I Feel Sick, Invader Zim, etc) and Roman Dirge Comics (Lenore). I also loooooooveeee Jamie Smart's Space Raoul, the Amory Wars, and The Umbrella Academy.

I loved Nee Smile Still have my mint issue 1. Didn't realize Zim was ever made in to a proper comic, could have sworn it was just the cartoon Confused

(May. 15, 2009  2:33 AM)jsc Wrote: [ -> ]ok. maybe I phrased that wrong. I just don't think Comics are interesting.. You always know whats gonna happen... thats kinda what i meant.
And you don't in manga... You know the hero is going to win, save the world, be the ultimate champion, I mean you know that from episode one of Beyblade, Yu-gi-Oh!, hell, ANY shonen manga, the hero will always prevail.
At least once in a while in comic books a real hero dies, or fails.

(May. 15, 2009  5:59 AM)Baronrana Wrote: [ -> ]Okay.. not saying you're wrong or anything.. but read this and tell me he's dead again.

From Wiki:

Chocked_2 well, he is kind of dead. His soul isn't in his body, his body's nearly fully decomposed. So yeah, just cause he's a ghost in time, doesn't mean he's not dead.
(May. 15, 2009  7:28 PM)dieddead46 Wrote: [ -> ]And you don't in manga... You know the hero is going to win, save the world, be the ultimate champion, I mean you know that from episode one of Beyblade, Yu-gi-Oh!, hell, ANY shonen manga, the hero will always prevail.
At least once in a while in comic books a real hero dies, or fails.

You're making the same generalizations, just about a different group of media. There are good manga and bad manga and good comic books and bad comic books, so stop with this carp.
I really want to start reading The Amazing Spiderman line. This series is what I grew up with, none of this techno-Spidey carp.

However there is like 500+ issues and the older ones are rare. So getting a complete collection of issues would be expensive and would take a long time, lmao.
Dude just buy the DVD set. It has like 1-500ish for like 30 bucks.
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