For you stamana Fans out there this is a good combo.I have been looking throu your combos,and wanted to make one,soi went to my parts and said"I want to make a stanima bey."so imade a random combo.
Results<Burn Gemios GB145RS vs.Gravity Detroyer 230CS
20 battles each won 16/20
vs.Basalt Bull BD145S
20 battles each won 20/20
vs.Grand Eagle AD145D
20 battles each won 17/20
Gravity Destroyer 230CS is not a valid testing vector, and RS is a tip absolutely incapable of feats of Stamina, as it is a Rubber tip, AND a Sharp tip.
Who wants to bet he made these results up? But giving you benefit of that major doubt, first things first:
a) Basalt + BD145 + S = LOLFAIlL. Hell, even BD145 + S = FAIL. So that's invalid.
b) Gravity Destroyer (Perseus) 230CS is probably the most viable combo to test against here, which is sad, because that's not very viable to begin with.
EDIT: NVM about part C, apparently he meant to type ES instead of RS.
(Oct. 25, 2011 12:43 AM)Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]Gravity Destroyer 230CS is not a valid testing vector, and RS is a tip absolutely incapable of feats of Stamina, as it is a Rubber tip, AND a Sharp tip.
Don't say absolutely incapable. Paired with the right stuff like maybe a Phantom,MF-F and aquario it could beat some mediocre stamina combos. Just saying.
Same to you Gahooleone
So Sorry I Ment ES Not RS LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...That's a pretty big thing to miss. But my first 2 contentions still stand.
Thats fine with me i just picked Beyblade From a pile so Yeah!
Thats fine with me i just picked Beyblades From a pile so Yeah!
awesome thread dude now you can never make another one!
Give him a chance =/
We were all new to beyblade at one point.
I'll just test this myself to see how accurate his results are. If he made them up then we just ask him to do actual tests/close the board.
Arent you guys a BIT to harsh? I mean for Hasbro Meta. its an OK combo.
What stadium did you test in?
If it wasn't a Takara-Tomy Attack Type stadium,
Mc Frown Wrote:now that's what I call a problem.
If this was done in a Hasbro stadium, please next time, post testing results
here!
It was In My New Balence Type Stadium
Also Thank You Galexy jay!!!!!!!!Plus artic!!!!!!!
A balance stadium? Sorry, but that's not a legit stadium for testing :\ A great stadium yeah, but you need a BB-10 for testing!
Here are my results
Burn Gemios GB145ES vs.Gravity Perseus TH220CS
Standard Procedure
Burn Gemios GB145ES wins 7 (5 Os & KO)
Gravity Perseus TH220CS wins 3 (2 KO 1 OS)
Burn Gemios Win Percentage 70%
Due to the high recoil of gravity and burn and the fact that 145 tends to do well against the 220/230 Heights, Burn destabilized Gravity occasionally knocking it out. I used 220 as a replacement for the 230 as i don't own one.
So obviously his results were NOT fabricated.
Gravity 230CS is still not a valid testing vector. Neither is Grand AD145D. His format, stadium, launcher, etc. are also all absent from the testing.
We cannot simply accept every single combo's testing just because "it would be mean not to". Everything tested here needs to be applicable to a current metagame, against combos worth actually having a counter to.
OK Raigeko13 Its Good To Know
My Lancher Was Left/Right OK!!!!!
(Oct. 25, 2011 1:30 AM)Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]Gravity 230CS is still not a valid testing vector. Neither is Grand AD145D. His format, stadium, launcher, etc. are also all absent from the testing.
We cannot simply accept every single combo's testing just because "it would be mean not to". Everything tested here needs to be applicable to a current metagame, against combos worth actually having a counter to.
Well obviously none of these factors affected the outcome very much because his results are similar to mine.
And at least he is trying, after hanging around here for a while he will learn what combos are acceptable to use in tests. Sarcasm and accusations aren't going to help anyone and nobody is ever going to learn anything if you all just tell them that their combos suck and troll them off.
(Oct. 25, 2011 1:35 AM)Arctic Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 25, 2011 1:30 AM)Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]Gravity 230CS is still not a valid testing vector. Neither is Grand AD145D. His format, stadium, launcher, etc. are also all absent from the testing.
We cannot simply accept every single combo's testing just because "it would be mean not to". Everything tested here needs to be applicable to a current metagame, against combos worth actually having a counter to.
Well obviously none of these factors affected the outcome very much because his results are similar to mine.
And yet, it's still a completely irrelevant combo unless it's tested against actual metagame threats.
who would use rs for anything like this anyways
(Oct. 25, 2011 1:36 AM)Hazel Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 25, 2011 1:35 AM)Arctic Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 25, 2011 1:30 AM)Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]Gravity 230CS is still not a valid testing vector. Neither is Grand AD145D. His format, stadium, launcher, etc. are also all absent from the testing.
We cannot simply accept every single combo's testing just because "it would be mean not to". Everything tested here needs to be applicable to a current metagame, against combos worth actually having a counter to.
Well obviously none of these factors affected the outcome very much because his results are similar to mine.
And yet, it's still a completely irrelevant combo unless it's tested against actual metagame threats.
Every metagame is different. Maybe in his circle of friends gravity Perseus 230cs was a threat. And chances are he just helped some other kid who also found those combos threatening.
This forum is not dedicated to research and development of combos relevant to metagames outside of our own. Threads containing unconventional combos without use in the metagame we are familiar with(ie: one that uses valid combos) are SPAM. It doesn't matter if his whole block uses MF-F Dark Wolf ED145MS, a post containing a counter to that combo - just because it is prominent in HIS area - is not relevant here.
I apologize for the harsh tone, but it is necessary, apparently.
It should've been reported by everyone and ignored beyond the first post in it.
Actually it's ES. :\
Anyways, can we please stop this discussion right now? Gravity Destroyer/Perseus 230CS isn't even that great. Even if it was in left spin. Also what mode was Destroyer in? There are a lot of flaws in this, and I'd suggest reading this thread.
well hazel how is he going to advance his metagame without help? if you haven't realized this by now your on the world beyblade organization website. beyblade, being a toy line primarily made for kids. due to that fact a large quantity of the members here are going to be kids. what your doing is scaring off a potentially valuable member. a year ago I was just as clueless as he is about top tier combos and the results of the first combo I posted here were thought to be made up. now obviously I have gotten better since that time and if dan didn't back up my results then I probably would have quit and would still be using storm aquario .
bottom line you are doing more hurting than helping and its pitiful when a 21 yearold puts down a 10 year old.
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