(Sep. 01, 2011 2:11 PM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]Or we could just have a like page where all the info is just sitting there and every once in a while someone(at anyone's discretion) shares the page and it passes around like H1N1 and especially Beyblades page kids troll there am to pm
Does our current page not have all the essential information about us being a fan-run organisation, a sanctioning body for tournaments all around the world, etc. ?
To be honest though, do we really want members who aren't even able to find us using google or whatever? I mean have you seen the carp posted by people on the beyblade facebook page? While we do want to educate people, many of these are people too young or stubborn to learn.
I'm always relieved by how little attention we attract from trolls, I don't think a facebook "campaign" would help that, ahah.
That said, we are our members, and more people means more tourneys (and if they suck, more wins for those of us who don't), so it's not a one-sided affair...
(Sep. 01, 2011 2:06 PM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]But then it is about just spreading the word, we do not need to have an actual page that we need to constantly update. We have a website right here, so the goal of our page is just to get people to join. If we update the page all the time with everything that is happening on the board, then why would someone sign up when they can just keep reading what gets posted on Facebook ?
"Insane WBO tournament in Toronto coming up, sign into worldbeyblade.org for more info!"
"Get your chance to win free Beyblades! Sign up to worldbeyblade.org for our "Design a Beyblade, Space Style!" and find out about the amazing prizes and awesome Beyblade experience that every Blader needs to know"
"Blader Rewards Quest now up on worldbeyblade.org! Sign up and find a tournament near you so you can get some super sweet Blader gear!"
"This month's giveaway is BB-10000 Super Pegasis! Sign in to worldbeyblade.org to find out how you can enter for this, and every other month's giveaway!"
Even though
I don't necessarily think updating Facebook or Twitter is good or bad, I'm just putting this here.
When in beyblade general forum rules this sentence :
If you're here to ask a question, please post it in the Ask a question, get an answer! topic. Please do not make new threads just to ask a question.
The link leads up to the previous topic not the new one.
I would change the seriousness of competiton because "This is a game"
(Sep. 26, 2011 2:05 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]I would change the seriousness of competiton because "This is a game"
It is a competitive hobby.
(Sep. 26, 2011 2:15 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 26, 2011 2:05 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]I would change the seriousness of competiton because "This is a game"
It is a competitive hobby.
I understand that but most people have forgotten that this is still a game half of these people are so close minded are always looking at "oh ive got the best this is the best" I posted a thread about the possible use of an acutal M145 combo that i recoreded and how it can KO basalt but within 3 mins someone posts oh this wont work the parts are outclassed this doesnt have enough testing. once something is deemed good or no good its final
But correct me if im not but whenever something comes out that someone more trusted thats always consistent with testing or is high in the ranks countless members run at the chance to help out
You also have to take into account tournament competition : would you really go to a tournament with an M145 ? This is why we can know that it is really not that good at first sight.
(Sep. 26, 2011 2:38 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]You also have to take into account tournament competition : would you really go to a tournament with an M145 ? This is why we can know that it is really not that good at first sight.
but see has anyone considered even testing it oh no its garbage throw it out yet i see no problem with my combo KOing Basalt BD145 ive posted a video but I have the worst camera(webcam) in the world
(Sep. 26, 2011 2:46 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 26, 2011 2:38 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]You also have to take into account tournament competition : would you really go to a tournament with an M145 ? This is why we can know that it is really not that good at first sight.
but see has anyone considered even testing it oh no its garbage throw it out yet i see no problem with my combo KOing Basalt BD145 ive posted a video but I have the worst camera(webcam) in the world
M145 is a gimmick track. We know the physics of the gimmick well enough to know that, at the very least, it will not outperform actual worthwhile parts. Unless you can provide serious, hard-up test results in a standard format with appropriate equipment as outlined by the Standard Procedures of posting test results in the Customizations Forum, your suggestion has no reason to be taken seriously.
We exist to help people choose the best combinations to use for given situations, competitively. What's fun and what wins are not always the same thing. It is an unfortunate reality, but the genuine nature of competition.
(Sep. 26, 2011 2:58 AM)Hazel Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 26, 2011 2:46 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 26, 2011 2:38 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]You also have to take into account tournament competition : would you really go to a tournament with an M145 ? This is why we can know that it is really not that good at first sight.
but see has anyone considered even testing it oh no its garbage throw it out yet i see no problem with my combo KOing Basalt BD145 ive posted a video but I have the worst camera(webcam) in the world
M145 is a gimmick track. We know the physics of the gimmick well enough to know that, at the very least, it will not outperform actual worthwhile parts. Unless you can provide serious, hard-up test results in a standard format with appropriate equipment as outlined by the Standard Procedures of posting test results in the Customizations Forum, your suggestion has no reason to be taken seriously.
We exist to help people choose the best combinations to use for given situations, competitively. What's fun and what wins are not always the same thing. It is an unfortunate reality, but the genuine nature of competition.
So then if your here to help then where is the help? im a kid with a budget of $0 and what i can get is what i can get i dont have much half of the stuff i have is on the verge of breaking and yet i cant get any of this "help"
We have given you advice based on the parts you have. We cannot do anything beyond what is logistically possible.
I sympathize with your plight, I really do, but there is nothing we can do about it. A combo does not become viable just because you have nothing better. We give you the best of whatever situation is available to you, and that is all we can do.
(Sep. 26, 2011 3:24 AM)Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]We have given you advice based on the parts you have. We cannot do anything beyond what is logistically possible.
Thats not what I mean. When Phantom Orion came out did you see the heaps of testings that people gave, It should be the same way for all the test threads. Whats the point of having a test thread if nobody's requests ever get done.What if someone thinks they've discovered something really good, too bad it gets shot down because of the pre made ruling that whatever parts are being used are no good. Nobody dares to stop the absolutely nothing that their doing to help but when some highly speculated bey comes out everyone that can jumps to the chance to be the one that helped out
What Sniper's basically saying is that no matter what the combo, every combo should be given a chance, and not just shut down on the spot.
Well testing takes time and people don't want to waste there time on useless testing. There is not much testing on Phantom Orion anyway so don't know what your going on about there.
If you do not have the proper parts and/or time to test it, do not speak ill of it. There's a fine line between knowing what's good and bad, what has potential, and what doesn't.
(Sep. 26, 2011 3:41 AM)RustyXD Wrote: [ -> ]Well testing takes time and people don't want to waste there time on useless testing. There is not much testing on Phantom Orion anyway so don't know what your going on about there.
which is my point exactly which converges with the "State of the WBO" Thread. Just think of the out come if Kei posted MF VariAres M145 CS in the combinations forum .How much would you wanna bet that someone will stop pull out their stadium and test that combo
I do see your point take for example MF Meteo L Drago CH120XF , if someone with 200 posts made a thread about that combo people would dismiss it but since Dan made it he is a well known member so people liked it. BUT that is not the reason why people liked it the real reason is that he provided numerous tests with the parts he needed and he got bluezee to do some of the tests since he didn't have all the parts he didn't just make a thread about it only testing it against one thing and tests from only one member same with the MF Basalt TH170WF thread. So really it is not about who makes it how you execute the thread if it looks like a mess no one will read it , but if it is well executed with a lot of tests members will look at the combo and go WOW. Hope that all made sense I can explain further if needed.
(Sep. 26, 2011 3:50 AM)RustyXD Wrote: [ -> ]I do see your point take for example MF Meteo L Drago CH120XF , if someone with 200 posts made a thread about that combo people would dismiss it but since Dan made it he is a well known member so people liked it. BUT that is not the reason why people liked it the real reason is that he provided numerous tests with the parts he needed and he got bluezee to do some of the tests since he didn't have all the parts he didn't just make a thread about it only testing it against one thing and tests from only one member same with the MF Basalt TH170WF thread. So really it is not about who makes it how you execute the thread if it looks like a mess no one will read it , but if it is well executed with a lot of tests members will look at the combo and go WOW. Hope that all made sense I can explain further if needed.
Which proves my point again two highly recognized people with access to the parts needed. See i have a limited amount of good/useable parts and if i went to ask someone to help me to test it i get shot down because those parts have been deemed no good
Its not they are highly recognized people its they did what is necessary to prove that the combo is good , that's something you are not getting , maybe would test your combo requests if you actually explained why you think they will be good not things like this
(Sep. 10, 2011 5:29 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]MF-H Jade Cancer 230 CS
(Sep. 04, 2011 7:12 PM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]MF-H Variares CH120 W2D/EWD
(Sep. 26, 2011 4:01 AM)RustyXD Wrote: [ -> ]Its not they are highly recognized people its they did what is necessary to prove that the combo is good , that's something you are not getting , maybe would test your combo requests if you actually explained why you think they will be good not things like this
(Sep. 10, 2011 5:29 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]MF-H Jade Cancer 230 CS
(Sep. 04, 2011 7:12 PM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]MF-H Variares CH120 W2D/EWD
ok Pffft jade 230 isnt bad and secondly i tried to prove why my combo would work but it got shot down
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-M145Q-Discussion
(Sep. 26, 2011 4:03 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep. 26, 2011 4:01 AM)RustyXD Wrote: [ -> ]Its not they are highly recognized people its they did what is necessary to prove that the combo is good , that's something you are not getting , maybe would test your combo requests if you actually explained why you think they will be good not things like this
(Sep. 10, 2011 5:29 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]MF-H Jade Cancer 230 CS
(Sep. 04, 2011 7:12 PM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]MF-H Variares CH120 W2D/EWD
ok Pffft jade 230 isnt bad and secondly i tried to prove why my combo would work but it got shot down http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-M145Q-Discussion
Your thread was shot down because you disobeyed the rules of that forum. You did not post valid test results in your thread, which invalidated it. Absolutely any combo will receive this treatment if such an offense is made.
All of your points here hinge on things with legitimate test results being shot down - something that has not occurred here today. If waiting is what must happen before the part can be tested properly, then so be it. Be patient. The world will not come to an end. If your complaint is about your thread being closed before you could post results, then either re-make the thread, or PM a moderator to have it unlocked.
By the way, we will repeat it until the end of time apparently, but Beyblade is an expensive hobby, just like most hobbies. You do not have all the good parts to do the tests yourself ? Too bad, try to post in the "Beyblade parts testing request" topic and explain thoroughly why the combination you are suggesting would work well.
All this "superior members" nonsense is getting annoying. I do not see any Advanced Member actually acting superior, so what can we do if people have a distorted perception of them ? But yes, they were not chosen for nothing, and if they make a topic for a combination, you can expect that there will be detailed results right in the opening post, and chances are it is indeed a very good customization.
Of course, a "regular" member could do the same and also be taken seriously if valid test results are provided against current top-tier combinations.
And then comes the validation by other members, which can also not work for Advanced Members or knowledgeable members if you open your eyes : half of the things Bluezee posted only worked for him and five other people at most. If someone cannot replicate the results, then there is something wrong somewhere.
(Sep. 26, 2011 3:54 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]Which proves my point again two highly recognized people with access to the parts needed. See i have a limited amount of good/useable parts and if i went to ask someone to help me to test it i get shot down because those parts have been deemed no good
Try not complaining and stop begging for help all the time. You are not very self-sufficient whatsoever and it's very annoying. There are many members here who do not have access to parts so they compensate by reviewing tournament videos, winning combinations, reading combination threads, using common sense for parts harmonization, working on their launch with the parts they do have, and reading the beywiki. You do no such thing. You have PMed me silly questions that can be solved using the search function, which by the way, is why we have that function in the first place.
We're not going to pitty you for not having all of the parts or access to them, especially if Zackorang1 can win a 53 player tournament using a stock Hell Kerbecs.
(Sep. 26, 2011 4:03 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]ok Pffft jade 230 isnt bad and secondly i tried to prove why my combo would work but it got shot down http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-M145Q-Discussion
230 makes most anything better. Variares on virtually any track will always have some sort of smash to make it KO many things. The point of combinations is to find versatile tier 1 combinations, not tier 2 combinations that center around a tier 1 part compensating for the tier 3 parts you put on it.
They should allow you to submitt battles for beypoints by video