Jul. 22, 2011 7:03 PM
Hi guys!
Due to the great enthusiasms of the Plastic&HMS remembrance, some members (me,th!nk,Ultrablader etc..) thought to give more important to this great generation of Beyblade that for a lot of time has been shadowed by MFB.
Now we want to try,test,discuss and write a final Top Tier List (i thought from Tier 1 to 3). In this Thread can take part all of you guys,but remember to take a scientific vision of the discussion,or if you want to talk generally about Plastics there's this Thread made by poseidon: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Plastic-...Discussion
I'll edit the OP during our "route" making this Thread better and better!
Now,some resources that thanks to G can help us to discuss:
http://web.archive.org/web/2005082911140...ndex.shtml
http://homepage3.nifty.com/hind/sub10-1.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/2005030913171...ashii.net/
Attack Rings
Weight Disks
Spin Gears
Support Parts
Blade Bases
Discuss:
Hope this Thread will be useful also for someone that reading and discussing here will be able to write the missing articles on Plastics for BeyWiki,for first me to give the good example
Due to the great enthusiasms of the Plastic&HMS remembrance, some members (me,th!nk,Ultrablader etc..) thought to give more important to this great generation of Beyblade that for a lot of time has been shadowed by MFB.
Now we want to try,test,discuss and write a final Top Tier List (i thought from Tier 1 to 3). In this Thread can take part all of you guys,but remember to take a scientific vision of the discussion,or if you want to talk generally about Plastics there's this Thread made by poseidon: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Plastic-...Discussion
I'll edit the OP during our "route" making this Thread better and better!
Now,some resources that thanks to G can help us to discuss:
http://web.archive.org/web/2005082911140...ndex.shtml
http://homepage3.nifty.com/hind/sub10-1.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/2005030913171...ashii.net/
Template (Click to View)
Type/Name (Click to View)
Attack Rings
Weight Disks
Spin Gears
Support Parts
Blade Bases
Tier 2/Honorable mentions (Click to View)
AR's:
WD's:
SG:
SP:
BB:
Honorable Mentions:
WD's:
SG:
SP:
BB:
Honorable Mentions:
Draft Plastics Tier List (Second Draft) Wrote:Attack
Discuss: Obviously various combos need to be considered.Upper Attack (Click to View)
Attack Rings
Upper Dragoon
Triangle Wing
Upper Tiger (in conjunction with Upper Attack SP)
Triple Tiger (?)
(Notes on which is best in which spin direction?)
Weight Disks
10 Heavy
6 Heavy
Wide Defence (McFrown is testing)
Spin Gears
Neo SG + HMC
SG Bearing Ver 2+ Full Auto Clutch Shaft
SG Free Shaft Ver+ Full Auto Clutch Shaft (Only with Defense Grip Base 2)
Support Parts
Upper Attack SP (Preferably with Upper Tiger)
Blade Bases
Grip Base
Storm Grip
SG Grip Change Base
SG Metal Flat 2
Customise Grip Base (w/SG Bearing Ver. 2 as above)
Defense Grip Base 2 (w/SG Free Shaft Ver. as above)
Tier Two, Honorable Mentions (Click to View)AR’s
WD’s
SG’s
BB’s
Honorable Mentions:
Correct Bases for Upper Attack SP
Driger V2?
Investigate the effect of spin direction, as mentioned by McFrown. View His Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilrfsjLj688
Discuss: Wolborg 2’s Shaft in BK’s Casings with Customise Bearing Base+Whatever SP (added to top tier, though I’d like more input on it).Smash Attack (Click to View)
Attack Rings
Triple Wing
Eight Spiker (Left Spin)
Cross Griffon
Triple Tiger (?)
Weight Disks
Wide Defence
10 Wide
Spin Gears
Neo Left/Right SG+(??? Core)
Neo Left/Right SG +HMC (for recoil and movement control esp. with SG Metal Flat 2)
SG Bearing Ver .2 w/ Full Auto Clutch Shaft
Neo SG Double Bearing Core Casings+SG Bearing Ver 2. Shaft
SG Free Shaft Ver. w/Full Auto Clutch Shaft (Defense Grip Base 2 only)
Support Parts
Fin Tectors
Upper Attack (?)
Twin Guard(??)
Blade Bases
Storm Grip
Grip Base (?)
SG Metal Flat 2 (usually with an HMC)
SG Grip Change Base
Customise Grip Base (only w/SG’s/Shafts mentioned)
Defense Grip Base 2
Tier 2/Honorable mentions (Click to View)AR’s: Double Wing
WD’s: Wide Survivor
SG:
SP:
BB: Customise Grip Base (stock), Fortress Base+Dragoon V2 Tip (???)
Honorable Mentions:
Discuss: Basically, everything. What makes a good OHKO combo, etc etc. Engine Gears?One Hit Knock Out (OHKO)*NEEDS A LOT OF WORK (Click to View)
Attack Rings
Whale Crusher (Left Spin)
Spike Dragon (Left Spin)
Weight Disks
10 Heavy
Wide Defense
Spin Gears
Neo Left SG+HMC
Support Parts
Fin Tectors
Blade Bases
SG Metal Flat 2
Storm Grip Base
SG Grip Change Base (?)
Tier 2/Honorable mentions (Click to View)AR's:
WD's:
SG:
SP:
BB: Fortress Base (with Full Auto Clutch SG Shaft)(???-from beywiki)
Honorable Mentions:
Defense
What SG would be used with Defense Grip Base (seaborg) (Is an HMC worth the stamina tradeoff?)Grip-Based (Click to View)
Attack Rings
Upper Dragoon
War Lion (SAR: War Lion)
Holy Despell (SAR: War Lion)
War Monkey
Weight Disks
Wide Defense
Wide Survivor
Spin Gears
Left Casings + SG Bearing Version 2
*(Use Right Casings if opponent is using left spin)
Support Parts
Defense Ring
Cross Survivor
Survivor Ring
Blade Bases
Customise Grip Base
Tier 2/Honorable mentions (Click to View)AR’s: Tiger Defenser, Smash Turtle
WD’s:
SP:
BB: Defense Grip Base, Fortress Base (2 sets of metal balls) (w/ Wolborg 2 SG) (?)
Honorable Mentions: See Zombies for more endurance-oriented options
Discuss: Mirage Goddess (Venus/Venusian G), War Monkey and other AR’s with free spinning sub-AR’s. Is 10 heavy viable (Wide Defense and Survivor greatly lower the recoil of Upper Dragoon and Smash Turtle, 10 heavy doesn’t. Would War Monkey or whatever make it more viable?)Weight Based (Click to View)
Attack Rings
Smash Turtle
Upper Dragoon
Weight Disks
Wide Defence
Spin Gears
Neo Right+HMC
Blade Bases
SG Metal Ball (with 4 Metal Balls)
Tier 2/Honorable mentions (Click to View)AR’s: War Monkey? (Other similar stuff?)
WD’s: 10 Heavy, Wide Survivor, 6 Heavy
SG:
BB: Fortress Base w/ 4 or 6 metal balls (+Wolborg 2 SG)
Honorable Mentions:
Endurance
Discuss: AR TieringZombies (Click to View)
Attack Rings
Gyro AR
Twin Horn (Takara)
War Lion (SAR: War Lion)
Holy Despell (SAR: War Lion)
Tiger Defenser
Weight Disks
Wide Survivor
Spin Gears
(Use Opposite Direction To Opponent, Usually Left)
SG Bearing Version
->Shafts: Takara Wolborg (best), Hasbro metal Dragoon Bearing Stinger.
Neo SG (Double Bearing Core)
SG Bearing Version 2 (See Grip-Based Defense for more Defense-Oriented options)
Support Parts
Defense Ring
Cross Survivor
Survivor Ring
Twin Guard
Blade Bases
Customise Bearing Base (Double Bearing Core Only)
Customise Grip Base
Tier 2/Honorable mentions (Click to View)AR’s: Wing Cross, Turtle Survivor, War Monkey
WD’s: Wide Defense
SG:
SP:
BB: SG Defense Grip 2
Honorable Mentions:
Balance
Discuss: Holy Despell+War Lion SAR, Metal Ball Base (can’t use HMC, lighter than SG MCB+HMC), Magne WD.Compacts (Click to View)
Attack Rings
War Lion (SAR: War Lion)
Tiger Defenser
Wing Cross (Hasbro Mold 2)
Weight Disks
10 Heavy
6 Heavy
Spin Gears
Neo Right + HMC
Support Parts
Defense Ring
Blade Bases
SG Metal Change
Semi Flat BB
SG Semi Flat
Customise Change Base
Tier 2/Honorable mentions (Click to View)AR’s: Panther Claw, Holy Despell (SAR: War Lion), Wing Cross (Mold 1/Takara)
WD’s: Magne WD, 10 Balance
SG:
SP:
BB: Metal Ball Base (4 Metal Balls), Semi Flat
Honorable Mentions: 10bBistool (Maybe).
Discuss: The name, What SG to use in Volcano Change Base. Should we include notes on launching (SCB self KO’s, so specific launches must be used to utilise this combo successfully)SCB AKA Buezee Was Right (Spin Stealers/Zombie Killers?) (Click to View)
Attack Rings
Holy Despell (SAR: War Lion)
War Lion (SAR: War Lion)
Gyro AR
Twin Horn
Tiger Defense
Weight Disks
Wide Survivor
Wide Defense
Spin Gears
(Try to use opposite spin to opponent, usually right spin as this combo is mainly used against Zombies)
Right SG (Free Shaft Version)
Right SG/Neo Right SG
Blade Bases
Spiral Change Base (Attack Mode)
Volcano Change Base (Endurance Mode)
Tier 2/Honorable mentions (Click to View)AR’s:
WD’s: 10 Wide
SG:
SP:
BB:
Honourable Mentions: Spiral Change Base (Endurance Mode). Very Easily KO’d, but much easier to use. Generally to be avoided, unless you’ve never learnt to launch it in attack mode.
Other Discussion: What about other random balance combo’s? Retesting of 10bBistool is needed, as much of its popularity seems based on effectiveness in the Hasbro Finals Stadiums, which we don’t use. Without them, it gets KO’d or Zombied by most things.
Fortress Base with Different SG's needs investigation.
Hope this Thread will be useful also for someone that reading and discussing here will be able to write the missing articles on Plastics for BeyWiki,for first me to give the good example