(Jun. 14, 2013 1:31 PM)Ultra Wrote: [ -> ]I'm aware of what you've said but i've purposely left out info because at the time I posted it I was too busy to explain my reasons why. You seem to misunderstand something vital. Just because something is top tier doesn't mean it is designed to be used by every type. What you would call bad weight distribution I can identify more correctly as focused weight. Horogium is top tier for every type. It was meant to balance out the intentional bad balance of Basalt. That's why it's weight is focused more onto the outside. There's a good reason they rereleased in RB7. Because it was top tier. As you've said Orion was purposely designed to work with flash. It's very clear that they work out what to release at least a year in advance. As such I know that there are several top tier combos we have missed out on because no one else except me has ever really been willing to take the time to analyse every part. The only person that even comes close is brad and that's simply because he was the probably the most knowledgeable beyblader ever. For example just because of how W145 is shaped I can speculate (probably correctly btw) T125SF/CS is top tier for stamina types.
No of course I don't mean to say that a top tier part can be used by every type...
I just don't see how we consider Horogium to be in the same category as Aquario and Cancer.
I see how your perspective made it Horogium's usefulness quite believable.
You can say that Horogium was made to negate Basalt's imbalance. It is a compact part with "focused weight" (with that weight being just 2.7 grams, I don't see how it would actually play a big part in balancing the weight) according to you. But what's the point of adding imbalanced weight to a perfectly balanced Stamina wheel (Basalt is out already), when you can add something with greater synergy and weight distribution? All in all, how can you prove Horogium's centralized imbalanced weight actually do something game-breaking in the Defense/Stamina branch, to actually make it a top tier choice?
And no, I never said Orion was "made" to be on Flash. Takara Tomy seemingly never really "plans" to make such stuff, IMO. Even if it does, there is no way you can prove it (or can you?), I believe.
Its usually us who find the competitive aspect in parts TT makes.
I wonder what made you think of it like that.
Nothing was purposely designed to work well with a certain part released in the past/future. If TT actually planned all that, the stats it prints on the box wouldn't be as senseless as they are now.
I also do not understand the "re-released in RBV7" connection here. Do you mean to say that Horogium is top-tier because it was released as a part of the most glorious RBVs ever released?
Of course, there are always some combos which might have been top tier, but were missed. Still, we didn't make totally bad combos back then. We did have some real top-tier stuff up there. So all wasn't lost.
I don't know about you being the most knowledgeable member around here. You might be, but I don't see it as a reason to believe your theory here.
As for T125SF working well, SF was mostly an Attack/Stamina tip. We have MF for it now.
I don't know how you see it becoming top tier...