(Nov. 27, 2011 7:34 PM)Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure if this has been mentioned, but under the D section:
Quote:D was once the best Stamina bottom available, but has been outclassed by SD and WD. However, it can still be used successfully in Virgo 90D.
This is not even close to accurate - and I doubt it ever was, unless this was written during a void period in which 230 did not yet exist. D is the superior Stamina tip for 230 and TH170 customs, and the combo needs to be updated to MF Phantom Aquario TH170D. Something like...
"D was once arguably the best Stamina bottom available for all heights, but has since found a unique role in High Profile Stamina Customs, on tracks such as 230 and TH170, where it outperforms other Stamina tips. The best use of this tip is currently MF Phantom Aquario TH170D."
It's rough, but I just woke up.
There's a reason we have that notice at the top of the Leone 145D article.
Regarding SD: it was considered superior to D for some time. It's since been accepted that D is superior, especially on 230/TH170 customs as you have mentioned, but then again, nobody has really been testing SD, have they? TAKARA-TOMY hasn't released it with anything in a while, so that might be why. I know that I did tests years ago comparing D and SD, and found that SD had superior Stamina (on the 145 height, at least). I don't know if anyone else ever followed up on that.
We recently had some people test SD versus WD, but not against D.
D's superiority on High Tracks is entirely dependant upon its very specific shape and ratio of slope to point.
(Nov. 28, 2011 12:09 AM)Kei Wrote: [ -> ]There's a reason we have that notice at the top of the Leone 145D article.
Regarding SD: it was considered superior to D for some time. It's since been accepted that D is superior, especially on 230/TH170 customs as you have mentioned, but then again, nobody has really been testing SD, have they? TAKARA-TOMY hasn't released it with anything in a while, so that might be why. I know that I did tests years ago comparing D and SD, and found that SD had superior Stamina (on the 145 height, at least). I don't know if anyone else ever followed up on that.
I am planning to do some comparitive test with Galaxy4Ever over this weekend(mostly Phantom OrionTH170D/SD. I've always liked SD better than D.I think SD is going to become extinct and probably rare soon :V . If you want SD, come down to Germantown maryland Target. They have at least a thousand dark bulls
(Nov. 22, 2011 9:25 PM)Arupaeo Wrote: [ -> ]I love the addition of precession to the article, and would add this thought:
The fact that B
can spin on its bearings and not on its tip means that after it has finished its "main sequence" (to borrow another astronomy term) behavior of WD-like rapid procession, it rests on its tip and exhibits very slow procession.
I'm not sure how to integrate this idea into the article (or if we even should), but I think that it represents an additional degree of detail as to how a bey behaves differently while exhibiting procession on B as opposed to WD.
I could add that, surely!
I need help wording it, if you could.
(Nov. 28, 2011 2:38 AM)J o n Wrote: [ -> ]I am planning to do some comparitive test with Galaxy4Ever over this weekend(mostly Phantom OrionTH170D/SD. I've always liked SD better than D.I think SD is going to become extinct and probably rare soon :V . If you want SD, come down to Germantown maryland Target. They have at least a thousand dark bulls
Can you try testing SD/D on a 145-height Track as well?
(Nov. 28, 2011 3:37 AM)BeybladeStation Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 22, 2011 9:25 PM)Arupaeo Wrote: [ -> ]I love the addition of precession to the article, and would add this thought:
The fact that B can spin on its bearings and not on its tip means that after it has finished its "main sequence" (to borrow another astronomy term) behavior of WD-like rapid procession, it rests on its tip and exhibits very slow procession.
I'm not sure how to integrate this idea into the article (or if we even should), but I think that it represents an additional degree of detail as to how a bey behaves differently while exhibiting procession on B as opposed to WD.
I could add that, surely!
I need help wording it, if you could.
(Nov. 23, 2011 7:22 PM)Kei Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 22, 2011 9:27 PM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]That would probably best be included in the Phantom Orion article.
I agree.
Yes sure, I have AD145 and 145 lol the others are attack tracks . What is the max rounds for solo spin? 5 rounds correct?
EDIT : Kei at the moment, I can do some EarthAD145 testing. My phantom wont come till at least Dec.
AD145 is the preferred track. Solo-Spin will not be of much use here, because it's about how D/SD compare to eachother when being caressed by the smooth, soothing metal of a strange Beyblade in their yard.
You need to do otherwise-mirror-matches. Earth AD145D vs Earth AD145SD, etc. Same mold.
Alright gotcha. I just need another AD145 and then it all good. Gonna have to wait for Dakota's reply though =_=
Aquario is better for everything relating to Stamina...
I'd like to put in a request for edit with Kei.
For the parts lists articles, I'd like to add links and references to articles for rare parts such as 85 and XF to note other sources of obtaining said parts if rare/limited Beys aren't accessible; these sources include sets and Random Boosters, SPECIFICALLY random boosters. The following parts I'd like to make these references to are
Vulcan, 85, and RS.
I'd also like to reference any other parts like RF (for example) to sets like Shaba's Super Deck Set article, so people can have a quick link to these type of sets from the Parts Lists. These type of references will be noted under the Beyblade section of each part as, "Can also be obtained from:".
(Dec. 01, 2011 5:55 AM)Kaji Motomiya Wrote: [ -> ]I'd also like to reference any other parts like RF (for example) to sets like Shaba's Super Deck Set article, so people can have a quick link to these type of sets from the Parts Lists. These type of references will be noted under the Beyblade section of each part as, "Can also be obtained from:".
Doesn't it already give a list of where the part is obtainable? Right now it says something like this:
Quote:Beyblades: Wolf D125B, Escolpio WD145B, Clay Aries ED145B, Counter Leone D125B
Right now we're just not listing where else it is obtainable from outside of single Beyblade releases. Why not change it to something like this?:
Quote:Obtainable from: Wolf D125B, Escolpio WD145B, Clay Aries ED145B, Counter Leone D125B, Random Booster Vol. 2 Legend Pisces, Super Deck Set
etc.
(Dec. 01, 2011 6:16 AM)Kei Wrote: [ -> ]Right now we're just not listing where else it is obtainable from outside of single Beyblade releases. Why not change it to something like this?:
Quote:Obtainable from: Wolf D125B, Escolpio WD145B, Clay Aries ED145B, Counter Leone D125B, Random Booster Vol. 2 Legend Pisces, Super Deck Set
etc.
The thing was, I was wondering if I should focus more on the "rarer" parts like the ones in Random Boosters 7 and 8 at first because they seemed like parts most useful in the past Random Boosters, since every other part in Boosters before 7 could be obtained in single packs except the main Bey, i.e. Wind Aquario, Claw Aries, Killer Beafowl, etc. But after I added that bit like Super Deck Set, I wanted to see what your stance would be.
If it's alright with you, I'd like permission to link those stubs in the parts lists to those currently existing articles in the manner you've displayed to expose those articles a little more.
Oh, I keep forgetting to post this.
I think we need to include the Hasbro versions of beys like Blizzard Orthrus, Uriel 2, Appolon, and so on, in the parts list. Seeing as they had their own EG's, CEW's, and Weight Disks, and various other changes.
On the downside, I have no idea what most of the parts were, other than White Gabriel G. (And even then, no idea what to call the SAR).
Woot!! Kei I did some hella testing with Galaxy4Eva
EarthAquarioAd145SD vs Earth AquarioAD145D
SD 4 wins
D 1 win
The stamina battles were long as hell so we reduced it to five if that's ok with u?
...5 is not okay with anyone for anything.
Yeah, 20 minimum. That's why they it work my friend!
And you guys should switch beys each round to eliminate difference in launch strength - but please don't tell us which one of you has the more beastly launch... LOL You are both beasts in your own right.
Just an aside: Dranzer GT was advertised as having a unique "Middle" Clutch base, not final clutch, as on the parts list.
The metal driger article completely ignores the rest of it's SG. While it's not a particularly useful part, it seems rather... Incorrect to just not even mention it. Heck, I had to buy one to find out if it came with Neo SG casings (I don't know why I didn't ask but eh)
Something small I noticed, in the
Hell Kerbecs beywiki article, the first gallery
picture (top left) is labeled as Hell Kerbecs being in Boost Mode, but it seems like it's in Normal Mode.
(Dec. 11, 2011 7:42 PM)KoD PT Wrote: [ -> ]Something small I noticed, in the Hell Kerbecs beywiki article, the first gallery picture (top left) is labeled as Hell Kerbecs being in Boost Mode, but it seems like it's in Normal Mode.
Good eye. Blitz, can you re-take that photo? Or is there a Boost Mode version somewhere?
edit:
(Dec. 01, 2011 8:34 AM)Kaji Motomiya Wrote: [ -> ]If it's alright with you, I'd like permission to link those stubs in the parts lists to those currently existing articles in the manner you've displayed to expose those articles a little more.
I don't see the point of doing this if the parts description will already be in the article? However, I do agree that they could use some more exposure, so I've added a link to the "Parts Lists" category on the Beywiki home page.
(Dec. 02, 2011 10:26 PM)J o n Wrote: [ -> ]Woot!! Kei I did some hella testing with Galaxy4Eva
EarthAquarioAd145SD vs Earth AquarioAD145D
SD 4 wins
D 1 win
The stamina battles were long as hell so we reduced it to five if that's ok with u?
Five battles doesn't tell us a lot ... You should be doing at least 20, unless you get to 10 and SD is still dominating. At that point, we then need someone else do to the tests to see if their results corroborate yours.
Just read the Lightning L Drago article. I was thinking there could be some changes for the Attack Custom section. You could add in the 2 best, viable, and decent Lightning L Drago combos which is, Lightning L DragoBD145RF/R²F and CH120RF. Since its still pretty much decent in the current metagame we have now. Just a suggestion
It's still decent? Man I can't see that considering VariAres, Blitz, Phantom, Death and Duo around.
The "New on Beywiki" box hasn't been updated in a while. A recently-published set article is also missing from it.
Eh, may someone please edit the GB145 article too?
C145 is too overrated now...
I've hardly heard of it being used so often, and from the way it has been stated in the wiki, it sounds like C145>GB145, which is probably wrong... Not to mention that the example of low-attacker combo given needs to be updated too.
It may be stated that against low attackers(actually, against almost any attacker), BD145>GB145.
Here's the part of the article-
GB145 Wrote:GB145 is a wide, round track featuring two free moving metal balls. These balls move toward the outside of the Track while spinning, causing additional spin retaining force, similar to Draciel Metal Ball Defenser's Metal Ball Base from the plastic generation. Weighing in at 4.5 grams, GB145 is currently the third heaviest Track available, and as such is extremely useful in Defense customizations. However, because it lacks energy-absorbing free spinning wings, it is not as effective as C145 against low attackers such as Quetzalcoatl 90RF.
A lot of things are out of date, methinks someone who is in touch with the current statuses of parts should go through all the articles and at least link them here with a short description of what needs changing.
Actually, someone from veterans upwards could probably update them all singlehandedly if they aren't too busy, and are in touch with the metagame and beywiki writing. Kei, Dan, Arupaeo, Hazel, (just off the top of my head).