Nice to see wave being used. Wave, like other things such as hold’ or rise is very underrated. Wave is tall which allows it to desabilize other beys, it has a wide surface area preventing a K.O. (For the most part) it also has good lad comparable to atomic and has overall good stamina.
(Jul. 26, 2021 5:27 PM)henwooja1 Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 26, 2021 4:13 PM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]Huh, so Cyclone is effective as an Attacker. Interesting, never saw it as more than a regular stamina layer.
Well, technically from what can see it’s being used as a tornado staller that relys on out-spinning by riding the tornado ridge of the stadium. It was likely used to tank attack while also out spinning things like dynamite f gear on drift
Cyclone actually is a decent attacker though. On Xtreme’ same spin it does pretty well from testing I have done.
(Jul. 26, 2021 7:34 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 26, 2021 5:27 PM)henwooja1 Wrote: [ -> ]Well, technically from what can see it’s being used as a tornado staller that relys on out-spinning by riding the tornado ridge of the stadium. It was likely used to tank attack while also out spinning things like dynamite f gear on drift
Cyclone actually is a decent attacker though. On Xtreme’ same spin it does pretty well from testing I have done.
That makes sense cause against attack types it would have the better stamina. But isn’t it a bit to round to be a attacker against things on Xtend+ or zone’ +z?
Convert wave is interesting to say the least. After a bit of testing, I can safely conclude that I'm surprised it managed to do well, given the prevalence of rage combos in the meta.
(Jul. 26, 2021 8:08 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 26, 2021 7:34 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ]Cyclone actually is a decent attacker though. On Xtreme’ same spin it does pretty well from testing I have done.
That makes sense cause against attack types it would have the better stamina. But isn’t it a bit to round to be a attacker against things on Xtend+ or zone’ +z?
It can beat (MCC) Tempest Solomon Wheel Xtend+ (Stamina Mode) 1S, so I wouldn’t say so. It’s all about the oval like shape it has plus those gaps it has.
(Jul. 26, 2021 5:48 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]Nice to see wave being used. Wave, like other things such as hold’ or rise is very underrated. Wave is tall which allows it to desabilize other beys, it has a wide surface area preventing a K.O. (For the most part) it also has good lad comparable to atomic and has overall good stamina.
Being taller means you're the one who's more likely to be destabilized. It's LAD isn't terrible, but comparing to Atomic isn't very meaningful when Atomic hasn't been used for LAD in forever.
(Jul. 26, 2021 9:39 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 26, 2021 5:48 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]Nice to see wave being used. Wave, like other things such as hold’ or rise is very underrated. Wave is tall which allows it to desabilize other beys, it has a wide surface area preventing a K.O. (For the most part) it also has good lad comparable to atomic and has overall good stamina.
Being taller means you're the one who's more likely to be destabilized. It's LAD isn't terrible, but comparing to Atomic isn't very meaningful when Atomic hasn't been used for LAD in forever.
Atomic still has the greatest same spin LAD though for a driver. I don’t know if that’s what he was talking about or if he was talking about opposite spin LAD.
(Jul. 26, 2021 9:39 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 26, 2021 5:48 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]Nice to see wave being used. Wave, like other things such as hold’ or rise is very underrated. Wave is tall which allows it to desabilize other beys, it has a wide surface area preventing a K.O. (For the most part) it also has good lad comparable to atomic and has overall good stamina.
Being taller means you're the one who's more likely to be destabilized. It's LAD isn't terrible, but comparing to Atomic isn't very meaningful when Atomic hasn't been used for LAD in forever.
True. I’ve done testing with wave vs destroy and it’s usually ties, but if I said it’s lad is comparable to destroy people might have started an argument. In fact I did lord spriggan 0 rise (right) vs lord spriggan 0 wave (left) and wave won most of them. But when they don’t have the same layer wave isn’t as good for some reason. And being tall is unstable when the driver is to thin like the SPEEDSTORM drivers. But wave is thick and bulky so it’s height doesn’t make it unstable, and when it’s in the center it forces other beys on their axis and causes them to scrape. Of course wave scrapes as well, but not as much. Specific drivers work with certain bladers based on their skill set, launching, and overall favorite types of beys. Wave just works well for me similiar to how the rise driver works so well for the #1 burst Blader Kei.
(Jul. 26, 2021 9:46 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 26, 2021 9:39 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ]Being taller means you're the one who's more likely to be destabilized. It's LAD isn't terrible, but comparing to Atomic isn't very meaningful when Atomic hasn't been used for LAD in forever.
True. I’ve done testing with wave vs destroy and it’s usually ties, but if I said it’s lad is comparable to destroy people might have started an argument. In fact I did lord spriggan 0 rise (right) vs lord spriggan 0 wave (left) and wave won most of them. But when they don’t have the same layer wave isn’t as good for some reason. And being tall is unstable when the driver is to thin like the SPEEDSTORM drivers. But wave is thick and bulky so it’s height doesn’t make it unstable, and when it’s in the center it forces other beys on their axis and causes them to scrape. Of course wave scrapes as well, but not as much. Specific drivers work with certain bladers based on their skill set, launching, and overall favorite types of beys. Wave just works well for me similiar to how the rise driver works so well for the #1 burst Blader Kei.
The point about being taller makes you easier to destabilize is because it puts it’s biggest contact points and center of weight higher up, so it’s easier to get under the layer and destabilize it, and it’s much harder for it to recover.
Indiana Bursts onto the Scene: July 10th 2021 Burst Standard
1st place: MagikHorse: Vanish Bahamut tapered bearing -6,Dynamite f gear Ragnaruk Giga Zone’+z -10,Hollow Lucifer(2) Wheel Destroy’ 1s.
2nd place: Anosmic:MCC Rage Helios(2) Xtreme’ 3A,Vanish Bahamut, Giga Drift -10, Dynamite f gear Ragnaruk Tapered Never -3
3rd place: Friedpasta:Rage Diabolos Venture 3a, dynamite F Gear Belial Tapered bearing -3, Vanish Fafnir Giga Zn’+z -2
(Jul. 26, 2021 5:48 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]Nice to see wave being used. Wave, like other things such as hold’ or rise is very underrated. Wave is tall which allows it to desabilize other beys, it has a wide surface area preventing a K.O. (For the most part) it also has good lad comparable to atomic and has overall good stamina.
Wait what? I have wave and it is like the easiest to KO ever
(Jul. 26, 2021 3:07 AM)catblader109 Wrote: [ -> ]Blading in Wisconsin: July 17th 2021 BST
1st Place - jonathan53332:
Cyclone Ragnaruk Giga Assault'-6
Naked Diabolos Paradox Drift Goku
Dynamite Belial+F Giga Destroy-3
World Diabolos Convert Wave 1S (Left)
2nd Place - Mikeorix:
Rage Longinus Destroy' 2D
Rage Longinus Destroy' 3A (Deck Format Only)
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Drift-2
Dynamite Ragnaruk+F Giga Venture (High Mode)
3rd Place - PegasusGod69:
World Lucifer II Drift 2B (Free Spin)
Curse Lucifer Mobius 2D (Awakened 2D)
Dynamite Belial+F Nexus Wave-2 (High Mode) (Deck Format Only)
World Lucifer II Mobius 2B
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Drift-6
Interesting: I'm gonna try the cyclone combo, using Zephyr'
(Jul. 26, 2021 9:45 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 26, 2021 9:39 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ]Being taller means you're the one who's more likely to be destabilized. It's LAD isn't terrible, but comparing to Atomic isn't very meaningful when Atomic hasn't been used for LAD in forever.
Atomic still has the greatest same spin LAD though for a driver. I don’t know if that’s what he was talking about or if he was talking about opposite spin LAD.
LAD is strictly an opposite spin factor, and is essentially the raw ability to stay upright at the slowest speeds possible as efficiency as possible. LAD as we know it doesn't exist in SE spin short of raw stability.
Outspinning in same spin is usually a factor of being less likely to be destabilized, being more capable of destabilizing opponents, or simply having less friction with the ground than your opponent (assuming the rest of the beys are equivalent).
(Jul. 27, 2021 9:34 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 26, 2021 9:45 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ]Atomic still has the greatest same spin LAD though for a driver. I don’t know if that’s what he was talking about or if he was talking about opposite spin LAD.
LAD is strictly an opposite spin factor, and is essentially the raw ability to stay upright at the slowest speeds possible as efficiency as possible. LAD as we know it doesn't exist in SE spin short of raw stability.
Outspinning in same spin is usually a factor of being less likely to be destabilized, being more capable of destabilizing opponents, or simply having less friction with the ground than your opponent (assuming the rest of the beys are equivalent).
Or simply having a better combo - and moving around the ridge less contributes too
Winning Combinations: Kerb' Your Enthusiasm
The Supreme One - 1st Place
Kerbeus Gravity Liner-S
Neptune Yell Revolve
Acid Anubis Yell Orbit
Dragoon Polish Absorb-S
Driger S Heavy Revolve (Deck Format Finals Only)
Valkyrie Knuckle Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)
Yami - 2nd Place
Deathscyther Knuckle Revolve
Odin Gravity Defense
Valkyrie Heavy Trans' (Deck Format Finals Only)
OnTheDL - 3rd Place
Odin Gravity Defense
Victory Valkyrie Gravity Quick'
Neptune Spread Orbit
Wolborg Heavy Keep' (Deck Format Finals Only)
Winning Combinations: Metal Fight Beyblade vs The Sun
geetster99 - 1st Place
MF-H Gravity (Attack) Perseus CH120 MF
MF-L Flame Nemesis 230 MB
MF Jade Gil 105 RS (Deck Format Finals Only)
Yami - 2nd Place
MF-L Metal Fury Duo Cancer 230 MB
Gravity (Stamina) Perseus CH120 MF
MSF-L Pegasus Archer S130 RF (Deck Format Finals Only)
The Supreme One - 3rd Place
MF-H Quetzalcoatl 90 MF
MF-L Flame Cancer 230 CS
MF-L Jade Aquario 100 MF
MF-H Gravity Perseus S130 RF
MSF-H Wyvang Bandid H145 RF (Deck Format Finals Only)
MF-H Gravity Perseus F230 GCF (Deck Format Finals Only)
(Jul. 27, 2021 6:46 AM)JA Industries. Wrote: [ -> ]Indiana Bursts onto the Scene: July 10th 2021 Burst Standard
1st place: MagikHorse: Vanish Bahamut tapered bearing -6,Dynamite f gear Ragnaruk Giga Zone’+z -10,Hollow Lucifer(2) Wheel Destroy’ 1s.
2nd place: Anosmic:MCC Rage Helios(2) Xtreme’ 3A,Vanish Bahamut, Giga Drift -10, Dynamite f gear Ragnaruk Tapered Never -3
3rd place: Friedpasta:Rage Diabolos Venture 3a, dynamite F Gear Belial Tapered bearing -3, Vanish Fafnir Giga Zn’+z -2
Noted. Looking forwards to seeing Magik in action this weekend.
(Jul. 29, 2021 4:37 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 29, 2021 4:04 AM)The Supreme One Wrote: [ -> ]Winning Combinations: Kerb' Your Enthusiasm
The Supreme One - 1st Place
Kerbeus Gravity Liner-S Kerb'
Neptune Yell Revolve Kerb'
Acid Anubis Yell Orbit
Dragoon Polish Absorb-S
Driger S Heavy Revolve (Deck Format Finals Only)
Valkyrie Knuckle Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)
Yami - 2nd Place
Deathscyther Knuckle Revolve
Odin Gravity Defense
Valkyrie Heavy Trans' (Deck Format Finals Only)
OnTheDL - 3rd Place
Odin Gravity Defense Kerb' Your Enthusiasm!
Victory Valkyrie Gravity Quick'
Neptune Spread Orbit
Wolborg Heavy Keep' (Deck Format Finals Only)
Winning Combinations: Metal Fight Beyblade vs The Sun
geetster99 - 1st Place
MF-H Gravity (Attack) Perseus CH120 MF
MF-L Flame Nemesis 230 MB
MF Jade Gil 105 RS (Deck Format Finals Only)
Yami - 2nd Place
MF-L Metal Fury Duo Cancer 230 MB
Gravity (Stamina) Perseus CH120 MF
MSF-L Pegasus Archer S130 RF (Deck Format Finals Only)
The Supreme One - 3rd Place
MF-H Quetzalcoatl 90 MF
MF-L Flame Cancer 230 CS
MF-L Jade Aquario 100 MF
MF-H Gravity Perseus S130 RF
MSF-H Wyvang Bandid H145 RF (Deck Format Finals Only)
MF-H Gravity Perseus F230 GCF (Deck Format Finals Only)
What's Kerb'?
(Jul. 29, 2021 2:17 PM)RED NINJA 0829 Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 29, 2021 4:37 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: [ -> ]What's Kerb'?
Might be a typo.
Stray text I didn't delete when copying over from Winning Combos
Edited accordingly
(Jul. 29, 2021 12:40 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 27, 2021 9:34 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ]LAD is strictly an opposite spin factor, and is essentially the raw ability to stay upright at the slowest speeds possible as efficiency as possible. LAD as we know it doesn't exist in SE spin short of raw stability.
Outspinning in same spin is usually a factor of being less likely to be destabilized, being more capable of destabilizing opponents, or simply having less friction with the ground than your opponent (assuming the rest of the beys are equivalent).
Or simply having a better combo - and moving around the ridge less contributes too
You must've missed that "assuming the rest is equivalent" thing. That takes care of that.
(Jul. 27, 2021 6:46 AM)JA Industries. Wrote: [ -> ]Indiana Bursts onto the Scene: July 10th 2021 Burst Standard
1st place: MagikHorse: Vanish Bahamut tapered bearing -6,Dynamite f gear Ragnaruk Giga Zone’+z -10,Hollow Lucifer(2) Wheel Destroy’ 1s.
2nd place: Anosmic:MCC Rage Helios(2) Xtreme’ 3A,Vanish Bahamut, Giga Drift -10, Dynamite f gear Ragnaruk Tapered Never -3
3rd place: Friedpasta:Rage Diabolos Venture 3a, dynamite F Gear Belial Tapered bearing -3, Vanish Fafnir Giga Zn’+z -2
You know you're supposed to put any combo that won here, right? Like, I don't think you had to post it because it was unranked, but if you are anyways might as well do it right.
That means I should also have Dynamite+F Belial Giga Zone'+Z -10 and Dynamite+F Belial Giga Orbit -10 (which beat Vanish on Drift of all things), even if they're just variations of the same combo.
(Jul. 29, 2021 7:56 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 29, 2021 12:40 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: [ -> ]Or simply having a better combo - and moving around the ridge less contributes too
You must've missed that "assuming the rest is equivalent" thing. That takes care of that.
(Jul. 27, 2021 6:46 AM)JA Industries. Wrote: [ -> ]Indiana Bursts onto the Scene: July 10th 2021 Burst Standard
1st place: MagikHorse: Vanish Bahamut tapered bearing -6,Dynamite f gear Ragnaruk Giga Zone’+z -10,Hollow Lucifer(2) Wheel Destroy’ 1s.
2nd place: Anosmic:MCC Rage Helios(2) Xtreme’ 3A,Vanish Bahamut, Giga Drift -10, Dynamite f gear Ragnaruk Tapered Never -3
3rd place: Friedpasta:Rage Diabolos Venture 3a, dynamite F Gear Belial Tapered bearing -3, Vanish Fafnir Giga Zn’+z -2
You know you're supposed to put any combo that won here, right? Like, I don't think you had to post it because it was unranked, but if you are anyways might as well do it right.
That means I should also have Dynamite+F Belial Giga Zone'+Z -10 and Dynamite+F Belial Giga Orbit -10 (which beat Vanish on Drift of all things), even if they're just variations of the same combo.
Tbh my understanding was that it was winning combos from the finals, but I may have miss understood
(Jul. 29, 2021 10:49 PM)JA Industries. Wrote: [ -> ]Tbh my understanding was that it was winning combos from the finals, but I may have miss understood
If one of the bladers in the top 3 used a combo to win a single point during deck format, or use a combo to win a match during first stage, it goes in the Winning Combinations for that blader.
(Jul. 29, 2021 10:49 PM)JA Industries. Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 29, 2021 7:56 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: [ -> ]You must've missed that "assuming the rest is equivalent" thing. That takes care of that.
You know you're supposed to put any combo that won here, right? Like, I don't think you had to post it because it was unranked, but if you are anyways might as well do it right.
That means I should also have Dynamite+F Belial Giga Zone'+Z -10 and Dynamite+F Belial Giga Orbit -10 (which beat Vanish on Drift of all things), even if they're just variations of the same combo.
Tbh my understanding was that it was winning combos from the finals, but I may have miss understood
I told you over Discord DMs that anything that scored at any point at any time counted, just as Crab and Shindog have confirmed here. Take a look back if you want, but I'm pretty sure I said it at least thrice.
Usually things that only showed in deck format (and won of course) are denoted as such with a "(Deck Format Only)" tag. For my beys that would be anything but Vanish Bahamut, since I moved the core on Dynamite+F to allow me to try using a (losing) Cyclone combo with Belial.
MFB AIN'T DEAD! - 7/24/21
Toronto, ON, Canada - Metal Fight Limited Format
1st:
MSF-H Bandit Wyvang CH120RSF
MF-M Gravity Perseus (Attack) F230CF
MF-M Flame Cygnus 230CS
MF Earth Aquario TH170D (Deck Format Finals Only)
MF-H Jade Aquario 100MF (Deck Format Finals Only)
2nd:
Gravity Perseus F230GCF
Gravity Perseus F230CF (Deck Format Finals Only)
3rd:
MF-L Flame Hades 230CS
MF Virgo TH170EDS
MF-H Gravity Perseus (Attack) CH120MF
MF-L Earth Cygnus 90CS (Deck Format Finals Only)
4th:
Was originally gonna write a report for this, but my report for the other event we did on this day–Back to the Classics Part 1–is taking too long to finish haha.
Blew my chance to pass 1234beyblade for the #1 spot on the rankings with my 5-4 loss in the semi-final to OldSchool™. 😭We were both 6-1 at the end of the tournament, but I probably would have needed to be flawless and for him to lose two matches. Still, as always, Metal Fight Limited is a lot of fun to play!
Here's the final match:
![[Image: EHd8kZQ.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/EHd8kZQ.jpg)