World Beyblade Organization by Fighting Spirits Inc.

(Oct. 19, 2019  8:38 PM)Infinite.Zero Wrote: [ -> ]I'm struggling to understand why Around was used on Ardmore Blader's LS combo. Any thoughts why he used it vs the everyday 0Wall setup?

Why ask me? Ask Ardmore. He could answer better than I.

I assume he used it because it has decent amounts of utility in opposite spin, and decent utility in same spin. It has some decent weight and it's okay for spin steal combos. It's not a bad disc on Lord or Judgement because they have burst resistors, and not a bad disc on ChoZ-(A/V/S) because they have burst stoppers. It's a bad disc without those because the teeth don't seem to connect as well with it on, I think it's adding a bit of unusual space that keeps tips and layers from seating correctly.

For a hilariously bad time, try Wizard Fafnir (non-Gen) on Around Bearing!

Los Angeles Tournament: Van Nuys Bey Clash #1

Chaoshero 1st place
Zwei Longinus.Blitz.Xtreme'.Metsu
LC Perfect Phoenix.00 Bump.Atomic
ChoZ Spriggan.0 Cross.Xtend+
LC Perfect Phoenix .10 Cross.Xtend+  (deck format only)
Lord Bahamut.Sting.Bearing  (deck format only)
Judgement Diabolos.Blitz.Quick’  (deck format only)

Justj11. 2nd place
Lord Sriggan.Sting.Bearing
Perfect Phoenix .00 Bump.Atomic
Judgement Ashura .0 Cross.Destory’

Poliswag 3rd place
ChoZ Spriggan.0 Cross.Atomic
LC  Archer Hercules.00 Star.Xtend+ (deck format only)
Judgement Valkerie.Blitz.Xtreme’.Go 
Lord Sriggan.Sting.Bearing

This event we tested the “pick 3 choose 1” format for stage one. I will post a tournament report more about that soon. I think it went very well.  We had 28 players with several new players. We completed the entire tournament in 3 hours with “pick 3 choose 1” format for stage one. The 3 hours also accounts for me figuring out a 9 way tie and doing a couple of tie breaker matches.

Oh my god, that 9 way tie is giving me a horrible feeling just looking at it. The TB values alone are a nightmare. You have 7 people contending for 4 slots. I'm going to try to check the logic and see if I come up with the same results as you for practice.

I HATE our tiebreaker logic! It's such a freaking nightmare!
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I decided to practice finals tallying so it stresses me out less next time around.
So the top 4, there's no tie. Jojo, Justj11, poliswag, and apple certainly advance.

5 Shindog 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 2 10.0 0 beat lego and sidestep.
6 Kingz_hero_ 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 2 10.0 0 beat chaos and lego
7 Maxkun 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 2 9.0 0 beat Alta, but not anyone else with 3-2 their TB value appears to be wrong?
8 Chaoshero 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 2 9.0 0 beat Alta and Sidestep
9 Mitchjett 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 1 10.0 0 beat Maxkun
10 Alta 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 1 8.0 0 beat ARuiz
11 Legomaster7777 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 1 8.0 0 hasn't beaten anyone else with 3-2, TB value appears to be wrong?

12 Sidestep 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 0 7.0 0
13 ARuiz18 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 0 7.0 0

Here's the rules on that section:

"3. Buchholz
Look at the Bucholz column in Challonge. Whichever player(s) have the higher score(s) here will advance to the finals.


Challonge TB column
However, if a player with a lower Buchholz value has beaten one with the same win record and a higher Bucholz value head-to-head during the First Stage, that player advances over the one with the higher Buchholz value.

If a player advances using this method, they should be placed below any other participants with tied records and a higher Bucholz that they did not have match history with."

No one among the tied people beat Shindog, Kingz_hero, and Mitchjett with their Buchholz of 10. They should definitely advance.
At this point, anyone among the remnants who beat Maxkun or Chaoshero should advance ahead of them.
Which is no one. So that means Maxkun or Chaoshero goes to the finals. Tiebreak match between those two.

It looks like at the tournament, the finals seeding went Jojo, justj11, poliswag, apple, shindog, kingz, mitch, and the 8th slot went to Chaoshero. I can only assume that Chaos and Maxkun had a tiebreaker?

I'm at least glad I got similar results.

(Oct. 20, 2019  4:59 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: [ -> ]Oh my god, that 9 way tie is giving me a horrible feeling just looking at it. The TB values alone are a nightmare. You have 7 people contending for 4 slots. I'm going to try to check the logic and see if I come up with the same results as you for practice.

I HATE our tiebreaker logic! It's such a freaking nightmare!
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I decided to practice finals tallying so it stresses me out less next time around.
So the top 4, there's no tie. Jojo, Justj11, poliswag, and apple certainly advance.

5 Shindog 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 2 10.0 0 beat lego and sidestep.
6 Kingz_hero_ 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 2 10.0 0 beat chaos and lego
7 Maxkun 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 2 9.0 0 beat Alta, but not anyone else with 3-2 their TB value appears to be wrong?
8 Chaoshero 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 2 9.0 0 beat Alta and Sidestep
9 Mitchjett 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 1 10.0 0 beat Maxkun
10 Alta 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 1 8.0 0 beat ARuiz
11 Legomaster7777 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 1 8.0 0 hasn't beaten anyone else with 3-2, TB value appears to be wrong?

12 Sidestep 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 0 7.0 0
13 ARuiz18 3 - 2 - 0 0 3.0 0 7.0 0

Here's the rules on that section:

"3. Buchholz
Look at the Bucholz column in Challonge. Whichever player(s) have the higher score(s) here will advance to the finals.


Challonge TB column
However, if a player with a lower Buchholz value has beaten one with the same win record and a higher Bucholz value head-to-head during the First Stage, that player advances over the one with the higher Buchholz value.

If a player advances using this method, they should be placed below any other participants with tied records and a higher Bucholz that they did not have match history with."

No one among the tied people beat Shindog, Kingz_hero, and Mitchjett with their Buchholz of 10. They should definitely advance.
At this point, anyone among the remnants who beat Maxkun or Chaoshero should advance ahead of them.
Which is no one. So that means Maxkun or Chaoshero goes to the finals. Tiebreak match between those two.

It looks like at the tournament, the finals seeding went Jojo, justj11, poliswag, apple, shindog, kingz, mitch, and the 8th slot went to Chaoshero. I can only assume that Chaos and Maxkun had a tiebreaker?

I'm at least glad I got similar results.

Yes we came to the same conclusion.  Maxkun and Chaoshero did play a tie breaker.  I mistakenly played a tie breaker with Kingz to decide seeding.  I don’t think I needed to as I have a higher burst format rank (“4. Seeding”) that should seed me ahead of KingZ.  I forgot about that and played.  I happen to win so I avoided the screw up.  This took me 20+ mins to figure out and double check myself.  I still basically missed something by not using rank....

Will the website ever update the rankings again? Without updating, the older players without a doubt have an unfair advantage when it comes to seeding procedures in the WBO due to others never being able to advance properly. If it isn't going to update, then I'd support the tie breaker idea to determine top 8, if needed at the time.

Into the Gaming Pit! - 10/05/2019
Guaynabo, PR

1st Place:
Lord Spriggan Around Xtend+ (Left Spin)
Lord Spriggan 0Proof Xtend+ (Left Spin) (Deck Format Finals Only)
Judgement Diabolos Blitz Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)

2nd Place:
Lord Spriggan 0Wall Bearing (Left Spin)
LC Perfect Phoenix 10Cross Xtend+ (Deck Format Finals Only)
Judgement Diabolos Blitz Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)

3rd Place:
Union Achilles Retsu Convert Xtend+
Venom Valkyrie Sen Vanguard Absorb
Drain Fafnir 8 Nothing (Deck Format Finals Only)

(Oct. 22, 2019  2:39 AM)Barreto Wrote: [ -> ]Into the Gaming Pit! - 10/05/2019
Guaynabo, PR

1st Place:
Lord Spriggan Around Xtend+ (Left Spin)
Lord Spriggan 0Proof Xtend+ (Left Spin) (Deck Format Finals Only)
Judgement Diabolos Blitz Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)

2nd Place:
Lord Spriggan 0Wall Bearing (Left Spin)
LC Perfect Phoenix 10Cross Xtend+ (Deck Format Finals Only)
Judgement Diabolos Blitz Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)

3rd Place:
Union Achilles Retsu Convert Xtend+
Venom Valkyrie Sen Vanguard Absorb
Drain Fafnir 8 Nothing (Deck Format Finals Only)

Very odd to see Stock Drain Fafnir and Stock Union Achilles in the top 3. Oh well, nice to see a Drain Fafnir in the top performers.

(Oct. 22, 2019  2:43 AM)JoMario67 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Oct. 22, 2019  2:39 AM)Barreto Wrote: [ -> ]Into the Gaming Pit! - 10/05/2019
Guaynabo, PR

1st Place:
Lord Spriggan Around Xtend+ (Left Spin)
Lord Spriggan 0Proof Xtend+ (Left Spin) (Deck Format Finals Only)
Judgement Diabolos Blitz Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)

2nd Place:
Lord Spriggan 0Wall Bearing (Left Spin)
LC Perfect Phoenix 10Cross Xtend+ (Deck Format Finals Only)
Judgement Diabolos Blitz Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)

3rd Place:
Union Achilles Retsu Convert Xtend+
Venom Valkyrie Sen Vanguard Absorb
Drain Fafnir 8 Nothing (Deck Format Finals Only)

Very odd to see Stock Drain Fafnir and Stock Union Achilles in the top 3. Oh well, nice to see a Drain Fafnir in the top performers.

Tbh, I'm more shocked at the Venom Valkyrie combo. Then again,it might be a good combo, idk.

(Oct. 20, 2019  4:32 PM)Mr. Palazzo Wrote: [ -> ]Will the website ever update the rankings again? Without updating, the older players without a doubt have an unfair advantage when it comes to seeding procedures in the WBO due to others never being able to advance properly. If it isn't going to update, then I'd support the tie breaker idea to determine top 8, if needed at the time.

Please exercise patience. Tournaments can be pre-processed by their organizers, but supposedly only contributors or higher can finalize processing of tournaments, unless I've heard wrong. There are only so many people of that role or higher, and they're busy and have their own lives to live.

I'd love to help chip away at the backlog, but as far as I understand it, I cannot.

If you read the organizer's guide, you see that the seeding benefit during tiebreaks is almost non-existent; seed order only applies to the ordering of seeding in the finals, and does not contribute towards whether or not a blader enters the finals. Anyone at a tournament with enough wins will go to the finals.

Beyrank only affects the first round seeding (in swiss), which isn't as much of an advantage as you think.

Fall for Classic - 10/12/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Classic - Unranked Round Robin

1st
Amaterios Vertical Bullet (Deck)
Acid Anubis Gravity Bearing (Group and Deck)
Doomscizor D2 Infinity Prevail-S (Deck)


2nd
Anubion A2 Gravity Revolve (Group and Deck)
Spryzen S2 Triple Iron (Group and Deck)
Roktavor Limited Yard-S (Deck)


3rd

Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme' (Group)
Driger Fang Gravity Octa (Group and Deck)
Wolborg Heavy Bullet (Deck)

(Oct. 22, 2019  6:33 PM)LazerBeamz Wrote: [ -> ]Fall for Classic - 10/12/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Classic - Unranked Round Robin

1st
Amaterios Vertical Bullet (Deck)
Acid Anubis Gravity Bearing (Group and Deck)
Dark Deathscyther Infinity Prevail (Deck)


2nd
Anubion A2 Gravity Revolve (Group and Deck)
Spryzen S2 Triple Iron (Group and Deck)
Roktavor Limited Yard-S (Deck)


3rd

Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme' (Group)
Driger Fang Gravity Octa (Group and Deck)
Wolborg Heavy Bullet (Deck)

What’s prevail

Wow. Two new Bullet combos in deck format wins! Also I am very surprised to see Acid Anubis Gravity Bearing succeed in group stage. TT Bearing has the worst spring, how on Earth didn't that burst? How did it survive same spin stamina challenges or burst attackers?

(Oct. 22, 2019  9:25 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: [ -> ]Wow. Two new Bullet combos in deck format wins! Also I am very surprised to see Acid Anubis Gravity Bearing succeed in group stage. TT Bearing has the worst spring, how on Earth didn't that burst? How did it survive same spin stamina challenges or burst attackers?

I am surprised as you! Seriously, has an exceptionally tight TT Bearing. It was inspected multiple times and was 100% legit. Part variation can be insane sometimes...

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(Oct. 22, 2019  8:01 PM)Ravinchen Wrote: [ -> ]

(Oct. 22, 2019  6:33 PM)LazerBeamz Wrote: [ -> ]Fall for Classic - 10/12/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Classic - Unranked Round Robin

1st
Amaterios Vertical Bullet (Deck)
Acid Anubis Gravity Bearing (Group and Deck)
Dark Deathscyther Infinity Prevail (Deck)


2nd
Anubion A2 Gravity Revolve (Group and Deck)
Spryzen S2 Triple Iron (Group and Deck)
Roktavor Limited Yard-S (Deck)


3rd

Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme' (Group)
Driger Fang Gravity Octa (Group and Deck)
Wolborg Heavy Bullet (Deck)

What’s prevail

It is a hasbro slingshock Driver. I believe it came out with Dullahan D4 and an Achilles A4 recolor (Black).

(Oct. 22, 2019  10:02 PM)LazerBeamz Wrote: [ -> ]

(Oct. 22, 2019  9:25 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: [ -> ]Wow. Two new Bullet combos in deck format wins! Also I am very surprised to see Acid Anubis Gravity Bearing succeed in group stage. TT Bearing has the worst spring, how on Earth didn't that burst? How did it survive same spin stamina challenges or burst attackers?

I am surprised as you! Seriously, as an exceptionally tight TT Bearing. It was inspected multiple times and was 100% legit. Part variation can be insane sometimes...

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(Oct. 22, 2019  8:01 PM)Ravinchen Wrote: [ -> ]What’s prevail

It is a hasbro slingshock Driver. I believe it came out with Dullahan D4 and an Achilles A4 recolor (Black).

I'm quite sure the first release was Kraken K4.

(Oct. 22, 2019  10:55 PM)Armor Wrote: [ -> ]

(Oct. 22, 2019  10:02 PM)LazerBeamz Wrote: [ -> ]I am surprised as you! Seriously, as an exceptionally tight TT Bearing. It was inspected multiple times and was 100% legit. Part variation can be insane sometimes...

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It is a hasbro slingshock Driver. I believe it came out with Dullahan D4 and an Achilles A4 recolor (Black).

I'm quite sure the first release was Kraken K4.

Yes my bad. Dullahan had Tower-S

Easy Pickings (Pick 3 Choose 1) - 10/12/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Standard - Unranked Swiss

1st

Perfect Phoenix 00 Cross Xtend+ (Group and Deck)
Judgment Diabolos Blitz Octa (Deck)
(Left Spin) Lord Spriggan Sting Atomic (Group and Deck)


2nd

Perfect Phoenix 7 Glaive Xtend+ (Group and Deck)
Judgment Diabolos Blitz Atomic (Group and Deck)


3rd

Poison Hydra Around Xtend+ ZAN (Deck)
(Left Spin) Spriggan Requiem 0 Expand Destroy' (Deck)
Lord Longinus 10 Proof Bearing (Group and Deck)

(Oct. 23, 2019  4:03 PM)LazerBeamz Wrote: [ -> ]Easy Pickings (Pick 3 Choose 1) - 10/12/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Standard - Unranked Swiss

1st

Perfect Phoenix 00 Cross Xtend+ (Group and Deck)
Judgment Diabolos Blitz Octa (Deck)
(Left Spin) Lord Spriggan Sting Atomic (Group and Deck)


2nd

Perfect Phoenix 7 Glaive Xtend+ (Group and Deck)
Judgment Diabolos Blitz Atomic (Group and Deck)


3rd

Poison Hydra Around Xtend+ ZAN (Deck)
(Left Spin) Spriggan Requiem 0 Expand Destroy' (Deck)
Lord Longinus 10 Proof Bearing (Group and Deck)

Spriggan REQUIEM? Wow, haven’t seen that on the winning combos in a long time!

(Oct. 23, 2019  5:23 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: [ -> ]

(Oct. 23, 2019  4:03 PM)LazerBeamz Wrote: [ -> ]Easy Pickings (Pick 3 Choose 1) - 10/12/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Standard - Unranked Swiss

1st

Perfect Phoenix 00 Cross Xtend+ (Group and Deck)
Judgment Diabolos Blitz Octa (Deck)
(Left Spin) Lord Spriggan Sting Atomic (Group and Deck)


2nd

Perfect Phoenix 7 Glaive Xtend+ (Group and Deck)
Judgment Diabolos Blitz Atomic (Group and Deck)


3rd

Poison Hydra Around Xtend+ ZAN (Deck)
(Left Spin) Spriggan Requiem 0 Expand Destroy' (Deck)
Lord Longinus 10 Proof Bearing (Group and Deck)

Spriggan REQUIEM? Wow, haven’t seen that on the winning combos in a long time!

You know NewRoc, using old trends to beat the new ones.

Very happy to see Poison Hydra in the list

Yep me always using old ones but I did my best loo

(Oct. 23, 2019  4:03 PM)LazerBeamz Wrote: [ -> ]Easy Pickings (Pick 3 Choose 1) - 10/12/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Standard - Unranked Swiss

1st

Perfect Phoenix 00 Cross Xtend+ (Group and Deck)
Judgment Diabolos Blitz Octa (Deck)
(Left Spin) Lord Spriggan Sting Atomic (Group and Deck)


2nd

Perfect Phoenix 7 Glaive Xtend+ (Group and Deck)
Judgment Diabolos Blitz Atomic (Group and Deck)


3rd

Poison Hydra Around Xtend+ ZAN (Deck)
(Left Spin) Spriggan Requiem 0 Expand Destroy' (Deck)
Lord Longinus 10 Proof Bearing (Group and Deck)

Not a lot of verioty in combos I see for first and second place. I like the use of unusual combos from Newroc.Still nice to see some new people place!

WHAT GOES ROUND COMES AROUND - 10/13/19
Toronto, ON, Canada - Burst Format


1st:
Lord Pegasus 0 Cross Xtend+
Lord Spriggan 0 Cross Xtend+ (Deck Format Finals Only)
Union Diabolos Blitz Charge (Deck Format Finals Only)

2nd:
Judgment Diabolos Blitz Xtreme'
Archer Hercules 00 Cross Xtend+

3rd:
Lord Pegasus 0 Cross Xtend+
Lord Longinus 0 Cross Xtend+
Judgement Joker 0 Proof Xtreme' Zan
Perfect Phoenix Ωuter Revolve (Deck Format Finals Only)
Judgment Joker Blitz Xtreme' (Deck Format Finals Only)
Balkesh B3 00 Wall Bearing (Deck Format Finals Only)
Lord Spriggan 0 Cross Xtend+ (Deck Format Finals Only)
Zwei Longinus 10 Expand Orbit Metal Retsu (Deck Format Finals Only)

4th: Kei

Click Here to Read My WHAT GOES ROUND COMES AROUND Report

Was originalzankye using a painted 0 disc or just out of preference?

(Oct. 24, 2019  6:01 AM)OriginalDankstr Wrote: [ -> ]Was originalzankye using a painted 0 disc or just out of preference?

In 's latest vid, Zankye used a normal 0 disk