(Mar. 08, 2017 6:24 PM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]Victory Valkyrie Down Orbit, really?
I didn't end up using it, it was mostly just there for looks, it was a clear V2 with metallic decals and a plated Disk.
(Mar. 11, 2017 5:50 AM)Kei Wrote: [ -> ]And what's the story with Roktavor Gravity Defense, @[Alta]? I'm curious, what did you find it good against? I could see it maybe bursting some opponents since Roktavor isn't terrible, but not sure I can see its use competitively on a widely applicable basis.
And @[ThaKingTai], to clarify: were all of the combos listed there used to win a match in the first stage of the event? If any were used only in the Deck Finals (and won at least one round of a Deck Format match), they should be labeled as such.
Roktavor does extreme amounts of damage, it also appears to slide back in place after taking hits, I used it mainly to burst some Deathscyther I was up against in the finals. Gravity and Defense worked well to ground it and retain the level of grip on the stadium floor that Revolve wasn't providing.
It did this to a D2 in a practice fight.
![[Image: 8e7e7c10014052f1e48ae932697de590.png]](https://i.gyazo.com/8e7e7c10014052f1e48ae932697de590.png)
Oh no, JoJo's blue Dark Deathsycther
[Toronto, ON - 3/12/17] WELCOME TO A&C GAMES IV
Burst Format [BST]
1st: @[Mitsu]
Wyvern Heavy Revolve
Deathscyther Heavy Revolve
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Defense
2nd: Kei
Neptune Gravity Defense
Deathscyther Heavy Revolve
Deathscyther Heavy Defense (Deck Format Finals Only)
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Revolve (Deck Format Finals Only)
Valtryek Knuckle Variable (Deck Format Finals Only)
3rd: @[Tempest546]
Wyvern Heavy Weight
Lost Longinus Heavy Weight
Deathscyther Spread Gyro
Toronto Tournament Reports
Stay tuned for Mitsu's comprehensive report from this tournament! I'll comment more on the details of this event there once it's been posted. In the mean time, be sure to check out our other most recent Toronto Beyblade Burst tournament reports and videos:
(Mar. 12, 2017 3:02 PM)Alta Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't end up using it, it was mostly just there for looks, it was a clear V2 with metallic decals and a plated Disk.
Oh, so you never won any matches or Deck Format rounds with it at all? In that case, it should not be listed on Winning Combinations. Please confirm, thanks!
(Mar. 12, 2017 3:02 PM)Alta Wrote: [ -> ]Roktavor does extreme amounts of damage, it also appears to slide back in place after taking hits, I used it mainly to burst some Deathscyther I was up against in the finals. Gravity and Defense worked well to ground it and retain the level of grip on the stadium floor that Revolve wasn't providing.
How tightly fitting is your Roktavor? My Valtryek is very tightly fitting in comparison to any other I've tried (including those of other members in the Toronto community), and that manufacturing variance contributes to its ability to be competitively viable compared to other Hasbro parts. And yeah, I can see it working like Valkyrie on Defense does.
(Mar. 14, 2017 6:29 AM)Kei Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, so you never won any matches or Deck Format rounds with it at all? In that case, it should not be listed on Winning Combinations. Please confirm, thanks!
How tightly fitting is your Roktavor? My Valtryek is very tightly fitting in comparison to any other I've tried (including those of other members in the Toronto community), and that manufacturing variance contributes to its ability to be competitively viable compared to other Hasbro parts. And yeah, I can see it working like Valkyrie on Defense does.
I don't recall ever using it, it was just in my deck during the finals. It should be removed.
I do not own any Hasbro attack type Layers to compare the slide, but it seems tighter on certain Disk/Driver setups, Heavy Accel provide a tight fit, however, I believe it performs best when there is less friction between the Layer and Disk, on Gravity Defense it slides more easily but due to this I believe it allows the Layer to slide back into it's original state, I've seen it after it stops spinning with no degree of unlocking to the Layer even after taking several hits during a battle. While I haven't conducted any formal tests yet, during test battles at the last event it is noticeably aggressive at high speed (Sword Launcher was used), not only causing the breakage of the blue D2, but it ended up bursting D2 quite frequently as well.
I notice the same with Roktavor R2 and Roktavor. they can absorb easily hit and can return in its original position until the big tight zone at the end of the slide(slope).
actually I used in competition Roktavor Heavy Variable and Roktavor R2 Down Zephyr(this one CAN burst easily many D2 combinations) unfortunatly I haven't enough experience with those in tournament so I didn't get placed but really near. I hope next time I will get placed with them.
Switchin' It Up!
March 4th, 2017 - London, UK
1st: ~Mana~
Lost Longinus Heavy Hold
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Orbit
Valkyrie Knuckle Needle
2nd: @[Balance Blader]
Lost Longinus Knuckle Xtreme
Deathscyther Heavy Revolve
Odin Gravity Defense
3rd: @[Ultra]
Dark Deathscyther Spread Orbit
Odin Heavy Revolve
Valkyrie Knuckle Trans
4th: @[Basedsamuraij]
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Defense
Valkyrie Knuckle Trans
Deathscyther Heavy Revolve
I'm a bit late with submitting these, haha.
Nothing out of the ordinary here really, a lot of safe combos were being used in the finals. Nice to see Lost Longinus popping up on the Winning Combinations more and more; it's potential on Hold is really something, though it gets blocked hard by Deathscyther combos. I personally managed quite a few wins in the event from using aggressive Needle combinations, with Valkyrie Knuckle Needle being one of my favourite go-to combos for this.
Ultra had some fantastic results in the Block Preliminaries, going entirely undefeated with his Deathscyther combinations. Unfortunately, the Deck Format seemed to screw with him there as Balance Blader managed to counter him. Balance Blader also went strong throughout the event (and even the finals), with the final round being a close 5-4 finish as I recall.
Poor Jay was subject to a 5-way tiebreaker for that fourth spot, in which two people dropped out from because of the weather. Still exhausted him for the finals though, which was a shame as he was going strong otherwise.
A great event all round though! :)
(Mar. 18, 2017 7:39 PM)~Mana~ Wrote: [ -> ]Nothing out of the ordinary here really, a lot of safe combos were being used in the finals. Nice to see Lost Longinus popping up on the Winning Combinations more and more; it's potential on Hold is really something, though it gets blocked hard by Deathscyther combos.
There's been
some talk of L2 on Hold recently with many varying opinions on how good or bad it is, so I'm curious to hear your thoughts on L2HH. I see you mention that it gets blocked hard by Deathscyther combos, something we experienced in Toronto with DHD versus L2 on Hold at WELCOME TO A&C GAMES, but @[Wombat] has a differing set of experiences as he explained in the post I linked to above. Can you elaborate on that? What did you win against with L2HH in this tournament?
And all of the listed Beyblades in your post were used to win matches in the first stage of the tournament? If any were used only to win a round (or rounds) in the Deck Format finals, that should be indicated beside the combo.
(Mar. 18, 2017 7:39 PM)~Mana~ Wrote: [ -> ]Switchin' It Up!
March 4th, 2017 - London, UK
1st: ~Mana~
Lost Longinus Heavy Hold
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Orbit
Valkyrie Knuckle Needle
2nd: @[Balance Blader]
Lost Longinus Knuckle Xtreme
Deathscyther Heavy Revolve
Odin Gravity Defense
3rd: @[Ultra]
Deathscyther Spread Orbit
Odin Heavy Revolve
Valkyrie Knuckle Trans
4th: @[Basedsamuraij]
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Defense
Valkyrie Knuckle Trans
Deathscyther Heavy Revolve
I'm a bit late with submitting these, haha.
Nothing out of the ordinary here really, a lot of safe combos were being used in the finals. Nice to see Lost Longinus popping up on the Winning Combinations more and more; it's potential on Hold is really something, though it gets blocked hard by Deathscyther combos. I personally managed quite a few wins in the event from using aggressive Needle combinations, with Valkyrie Knuckle Needle being one of my favourite go-to combos for this.
Ultra had some fantastic results in the Block Preliminaries, going entirely undefeated with his Deathscyther combinations. Unfortunately, the Deck Format seemed to screw with him there as Balance Blader managed to counter him. Balance Blader also went strong throughout the event (and even the finals), with the final round being a close 5-4 finish as I recall.
Poor Jay was subject to a 5-way tiebreaker for that fourth spot, in which two people dropped out from because of the weather. Still exhausted him for the finals though, which was a shame as he was going strong otherwise.
A great event all round though! 
It was D2 not D and the combo I used nearly the entire tourney was Odin not Deathscyther.
Aha, my bad there. I was sure that was Deathscyther in the picture I took, whoops. Wasn't it a Deathscyther combo that I lost to you against in our block?
(Mar. 19, 2017 3:21 AM)Kei Wrote: [ -> ]There's been some talk of L2 on Hold recently with many varying opinions on how good or bad it is, so I'm curious to hear your thoughts on L2HH. I see you mention that it gets blocked hard by Deathscyther combos, something we experienced in Toronto with DHD versus L2 on Hold at WELCOME TO A&C GAMES, but @[Wombat] has a differing set of experiences as he explained in the post I linked to above. Can you elaborate on that? What did you win against with L2HH in this tournament?
And all of the listed Beyblades in your post were used to win matches in the first stage of the tournament? If any were used only to win a round (or rounds) in the Deck Format finals, that should be indicated beside the combo.
The combinations listed are indeed from the Deck Finals, though a number of these combinations were also used in the preliminary rounds. @[Basedsamuraij] and @[Balance Blader] would have to vouch for what they used in the Block Round Robin as @[Syphon] managed their block.
L2HH was used against Jay's VKT in the finals, and once against Balance Blader's OGD in the finals, if I remember correctly. In the preliminaries, I leaned more towards use of L2SH and L2GH and won a few battles against Wyvern and Odin combos (specific parts, I can't recall), while also suffering a loss against Ultra with it.
Beyblade: Star City Assault 2017 - 3/25/17
Roanoke, Virginia, USA - Burst Format
1st: The beardedimp
Roktavor Heavy Press
2nd: Angry Face
Dark Deathscyther Spread Orbit
God Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme
3rd: cosmicblaster
Blaze Ragnaruk 4 Cross Flugel
4th: Copper Spark
Kreis Satan 2 Glaive Loop
Brackets:
http://challonge.com/bsca2017a
http://challonge.com/bsca2017b
http://challonge.com/bsca2017fin
Beyblade: Star City Assault 2017 [Side Event I] - 3/25/17
Roanoke, Virginia, USA - Burst Win-Streak Club Format
1st: ACTION JACKSON
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Gyro
2nd: BeyBabe456
Kreis Satan 2 Glaive Loop
3rd: Mstubbs88
Driger S Heavy Xtreme
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Defense
(Mar. 26, 2017 10:30 PM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: [ -> ]OMG I have so many things to ask!
@[The breadedimp] How?!??! Raktovor is actually so good?
@[Angry Faces] how did GV performed?
gV was really difficult to burst, but its attack power didn't particularly impress me.
Also, The beardedimp said he just built his combo out of some random parts before the tournament, so it was crazy to watch him burst everything with it.
(Mar. 26, 2017 10:38 PM)Angry Face Wrote: [ -> ]Also, The beardedimp said he just built his combo out of some random parts before the tournament, so it was crazy to watch him burst everything with it.
If that's the case, crazier that nobody caught on and countered him with an Attack type!
What exactly is "everything", though? Curious what it was able to defeat. In any case, seeing Alta do well with Roktavor recently and now this is making me want to test it again. I don't doubt at all that it can burst things, but just can't see how it could be such a huge force that someone could use it exclusively (and on Press, no less) to win an entire event.
Beauty and the Beast Behemoth: Winning Combos
1st Place-Alta
Wyvern Heavy Revolve
Roktavor Gravity Defense
2nd Place-JoJo[Jp0t]
Neptune Spread Revolve
Gigant Gaia Gravity Bite (Deck Format)
Dragoon S Heavy Xtreme
3rd Place-ThaKingTai
Dark Deathscyther Down Revolve
Driger S Heavy Xtreme (Deck Format)
I'm pretty sure that I only won one actual battle with Driger, but still worked out, lol.
(Mar. 26, 2017 10:22 PM)Angry Face Wrote: [ -> ]Beyblade: Star City Assault 2017 - 3/25/17
Roanoke, Virginia, USA - Burst Format
1st: The beardedimp
Roktavor Heavy Press
2nd: Angry Face
Dark Deathscyther Spread Orbit
God Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme
3rd: cosmicblaster
Blaze Ragnaruk 4 Cross Flugel
4th: Copper Spark
Kreis Satan 2 Glaive Loop
Brackets:
http://challonge.com/bsca2017a
http://challonge.com/bsca2017b
http://challonge.com/bsca2017fin
Beyblade: Star City Assault 2017 [Side Event I] - 3/25/17
Roanoke, Virginia, USA - Burst Win-Streak Club Format
1st: ACTION JACKSON
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Gyro
2nd: BeyBabe456
Kreis Satan 2 Glaive Loop
3rd: @[Mstubbs88]
Driger S ___ Xtreme(?)
I used Heavy on Driger, Also i used Dark Deathscyther Gravity Defense for some of that event
Winning combination of the top 3 for
THE LEGEND RETURNS
29th MAR, 2017
KOLKATA, WEST BENGAL, INDIA
1ST PLACE: ronitnath
MF-H Duo Cancer 230 MB
MF-H Flash Lacerta S130 R2F
Death Virgo BD145 CS
Scythe Kronos BD145 CS
Blitz Virgo S130 RF
2ND PLACE: RYAN UCHIHA
Duo Cygnus E230 MB
MF Diablo Kerbecs BD145 RF
MF-L Wing Virgo DF105 R2F
Duo Cygnus B
L Drago Guardian SA165 EWD
3RD PLACE: FERVOUR BLADER
Phantom Orion 90 MF
Death Virgo BD145 CS
Duo Cancer 230 MB
Meteo L Drago SA165 EWD
How come there wasn't any synchrome combos?
meteo Ldrago in winning combo in standard format?!
(Mar. 31, 2017 11:03 AM)mj9 Wrote: [ -> ]How come there wasn't any synchrome combos?
They actually banned scynchrome upon agreement of all members (not really a ban but they decided not to use and all agreed) because to make it more challenging and fun and so people can make more creative combos (like Meteo. Which are otherwise not possible in STD). Even we are planning to keep it in Mumbai on 23rd April :)
(Mar. 31, 2017 1:54 PM)loyd87 Wrote: [ -> ]meteo Ldrago in winning combo in standard format?!
If you see all combos many had used tips like CS and MB which made it possible for Meteo to win (tbh I think it must be just luck and he switched it to other battles I think. Though I can't tell as I wasn't there)
(Mar. 31, 2017 3:08 PM)Mage Wrote: [ -> ]So many CS tips XD
There was total 3 (4?) Duos at event as far as I know. So CS + Duo works pretty well, due to it's low recoil it has good chaces against Left Spin too.
Another reason might be that DQ BD145CS used to dominate here in Mumbai and it's still kinda safe to use so I think many thought to use it thinking it will be good for 4D format (as it did good even against Scynchrome in Mumbai. though it now suffers Death [Pun Intended lol] from things like Balro, Flash, Dragoon BD145 and other things like E230/230MB/CS and even Duo 85CS)
Edit:- @[Ryan Uchila], Wing Virgo DF105R2F? Why not Flash haha (even Blitz would have worked)
(Apr. 01, 2017 4:01 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: [ -> ]If you see all combos many had used tips like CS and MB which made it possible for Meteo to win (tbh I think it must be just luck and he switched it to other battles I think. Though I can't tell as I wasn't there)
Hah the perfect combo to counter dq bd145 cs and stamina stuffs.. Cuz lot of people used stamina types tbh.
To go along with the recent
Deathscyther/Dark Deathscyther discussion and controversy:
JORMUNGAND JAILBREAK - 3/25/17
Toronto, ON, Canada - Burst Format
1st: JesseObre
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Defense
Deathscyther Heavy Defense
2nd: Naru Blader
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Defense
Deathscyther Heavy Revolve
Deathscyther 2 Cross Revolve
Lost Longinus 4 Vortex Hold (Deck Format Finals Only)
Lost Longinus Heavy Hold (Deck Format Finals Only)
3rd: 1234beyblade
Valkyrie 4 Vortex Accel (Deck Format Finals Only)
Deathscyther 2 Cross Revolve
Dark Deathscyther 6 Glaive Defense
LIVE ACTION REBOOT - 4/15/17
Toronto, ON, Canada - Burst Format
1st: Kei
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Defense
Deathscyther Heavy Revolve
Deathscyther Heavy Defense
2nd: Mitsu
God Valkyrie 4 Vortex Reboot (Deck Format Finals Only)
God Valkyrie Heavy Reboot (Deck Format Finals Only)
Deathscyther Gravity Revolve
Deathscyther 2 Cross Revolve
Dark Deathscyther 4 Glave Defense
3rd: JesseObre
Deathscyther Heavy Defense
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Orbit (Deck Format Finals Only)
Dark Deathscyther Gravity Defense
God Valkyrie + Reboot is definitely interesting. It's a little inconsistent, but I found it quite nice to have more control and less aggression. I haven't fully compared Deathscyther 2 Cross and Deathscyther Gravity/Heavy, but both work fairly well.
As for Deathscyther and Dark Deathscyther's level presence, I think it's not really up for debate among members of the Toronto community that something needs to change. The lack of variety when it comes to Drivers here is a little bit disappointing too, but not the bigger issue at hand, in my mind.
Yeah, Reboot is surprisingly a pretty cool Driver! I've found some success with it in testing, although I do worry about its consistency like you do @[Mitsu].
I'll expand on LIVE ACTION REBOOT in my forthcoming tournament report, but I do think the above results are certainly representative of the situation we find ourselves in. Although, I do think this one in particular is skewed a bit more towards D and D2 than it has been in other recent tournaments (where there were more Attack types used in the Deck Format finals). Still, the situation is quite dire (more so for the first stage of events) the more I think about it.
Also, if you haven't seen it yet, check out my
JORMUNGAND JAILBREAK Tournament Report over in the WBO Tournament Reports forum!
[Mumbai, MH, India] The Ray of Hope (LTD Club)[
3rd Place:- @[Eurekaboy]
Flame Byxis 230CS
Gravity Perseus AD145WD
Meteo L-Drago B;D
Bakushin Leone 85CS
2nd Place:- FIREFIRE CPB:-
Screw Striker II CH120RF
Bakushin Leone 85CS
MF-M Scythe Cancer LW105MF
Rock Orso T125D
1st Place (#AgeDoesn'tMatter):- @[Burn_Phoenix]:-
Burn Phoenix 130MS
Bakushin Leone 85CS (not sure tbh)
Galaxy Pegasis D125HF (I think only 1 round of Deck Rotation against my Bakushin)[/b]
[Mumbai, MH, India] The Legendary Bladers (MFB Club)[
3rd Place:-@[Otaku]
Phantom Orion B:D
Gravity Perseus AD145WD
Diablo Nemisis XD
2nd Place:- FIREFIRE CPB
MF Flash Leone D125RF
Blitz CH120R2F
Death Cygnus BD (only once)
Bakuhsin Leone 85CS
Scythe Cancer LW105MF
Phantom Cygnus BD
1st Place:- Burn_Phoenix
Death Queatzalcoat LW160SD (hmm it reminds me of old times,
beyhaha]
Burn Phoenix 130MS
I will soon add more details in my full report soon ;)