A heavy Attack/Defense type bey, Relies on stadium-outs- very little stamina.
Conditions:
1 Person. Using grip and Beylauncher.
Takara Tomy Attack Stadium
Hell Kerbecs launched first.
Versus Meteo L Drago 90RF:
Hell Kerbecs: 6/10
Meteo L-Drago: 4/10
Hell Kerbecs win percentage: 60%
Since Meteo relies on the opposing bey to be taller for it to effectively spin steal, Kerbecs goes on a tilt, rendering Meteo useless for spin stealing. However, without a powerful hit, Meteo is better than Kerbecs in terms of Stamina.
Versus Burn Cancer WA130WD:
Hell Kerbecs: 5/10
Burn Cancer: 5/10
Hell Kerbecs win percentage: 50%
Since it's supposed to be Attack>Stamina, it should be that Kerbecs get a easy win. However, Kerbecs only managed to break even with Cancer in the 10th round. Somehow Kerbecs can't get a stadium out, and is left for dead with Cancer spinning outer, rarely making contact.
If anybody can do a defense test, it'd be greatly appreciated.
EXTRAS:
It should be interesting to note that Hell Kerbecs MUST launch first to be able to properly utilize it's potential. If you launch at the same time, the extra time for Hell Kerbecs to do what I call "boost time"; basically Hell Kerbecs spins on the outside for 1-2 seconds, gathering it's weight to smash the other bey out.
I think you should have had results on hand before you made this thread. Anyways, I will be surprised if Kerbecs is effective in attack at all.
i believe that you need to prove your testing results before brining a topic about it cause i agree with hero you should have at least some testings
Looks great you should keep up the good work a oh and that Burn Cancer seems good form your test results you should make that a thread
Try against Burn Bull 100 WD or a Defense Type
Why are you testing it against a stamina combo when you know attack > stamina? And anyway Burn Cancer WA130WD is not a good stamina combo...
Use Earth/Burn Bull/Aquario 85/90/100/145/AD145/230WD/SD.
How About a Defense type gravity Perseus 230 CS
(Feb. 21, 2011 8:33 AM)Hero Wrote: [ -> ]I think you should have had results on hand before you made this thread. Anyways, I will be surprised if Kerbecs is effective in attack at all.
You mean just the clear wheel right cause generally the whole blade seems to be very good for attack.
But isn't Hell pretty good for smash attack anyway?
(Feb. 21, 2011 4:21 PM)Kazemaru Wrote: [ -> ]But isn't Hell pretty good for smash attack anyway?
Don't think that it has been really proven, it doesn't beat Lightning in any case.
(Feb. 21, 2011 10:57 AM)Nile Wrote: [ -> ]How About a Defense type gravity Perseus 230 CS
im pretty sure perseus was prooven to be bad for deffense i could be wrong though
how bout mf-h libra 230rs? sure libras banned but it should good for testing
(Feb. 21, 2011 4:02 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 21, 2011 8:33 AM)Hero Wrote: [ -> ]I think you should have had results on hand before you made this thread. Anyways, I will be surprised if Kerbecs is effective in attack at all.
You mean just the clear wheel right cause generally the whole blade seems to be very good for attack.
Ahh. Thanks for pointing that out. I meant to say Hell probably wouldn't be effectived in attack, it seems the results are more or less similar to my prediction.
Other people's results show different though.
(Feb. 21, 2011 11:50 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: [ -> ]Other people's results show different though.
Hmm? Perhaps Kerbecs is better designed for a low track combo?
(Feb. 21, 2011 11:50 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: [ -> ]Other people's results show different though.
NO they don't. Where do you get your info at? Look at the thread SSJ posted it obviously shows otherwise. Hell is very circumstancial as an attack type at different heights. So no it isn't good enough to be a tier.
Hell is pretty strange, only doing well at the extremes of attack tracks: 85 and 145..
I cannot wait 'till mine comes, I shall add some tests for sure.
(Feb. 22, 2011 1:52 AM)Gibraltor Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 21, 2011 11:50 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: [ -> ]Other people's results show different though.
NO they don't. Where do you get your info at? Look at the thread SSJ posted it obviously shows otherwise. Hell is very circumstancial as an attack type at different heights. So no it isn't good enough to be a tier.
For god sake. This is just another case of misinterpreting what I say. I meant that other results show better performance than this which they do! I mean 50% against stamina. Not meaning any offence to iR but there is something seriously wrong with that considering other testing has shown it doing well vs Rubber Defence combos. Yeah no other metal wheels are circumstantial... Oh wait there's Vulcan, Pegasis and Ray. All of these only perform well on one/two tracks only. Yet they've all been/are top tier. Say whatever you want but your opinion of it being circumstancial makes like no sense at all. If it has good smash it will go on the top tier list. Simple as that.
(Feb. 22, 2011 3:22 AM)Ultrablader Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 22, 2011 1:52 AM)Gibraltor Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 21, 2011 11:50 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: [ -> ]Other people's results show different though.
NO they don't. Where do you get your info at? Look at the thread SSJ posted it obviously shows otherwise. Hell is very circumstancial as an attack type at different heights. So no it isn't good enough to be a tier.
For god sake. This is just another case of misinterpreting what I say. I meant that other results show better performance than this which they do! I mean 50% against stamina. Not meaning any offence to iR but there is something seriously wrong with that considering other testing has shown it doing well vs Rubber Defence combos. Yeah no other metal wheels are circumstantial... Oh wait there's Vulcan, Pegasis and Ray. All of these only perform well on one/two tracks only. Yet they've all been/are top tier. Say whatever you want but your opinion of it being circumstancial makes like no sense at all. If it has good smash it will go on the top tier list. Simple as that.
You'd have a lot less misinterpretations if you would state what you meant and didn't think people knew what you were talking about, simple as that.
Given that LDrago does well on all size types then perhaps your top tier listing is wrong maybe? Perhaps any ring that can do well on all tracks is the only deserving of tier 1 eh? And even still that thread had Hell on every track and it really didn't do THAT well. Why not just stick with what works better eh?
Eh suppose that's a little blunt sorry. Just something I'd reconsider on the Tier 1 page.
(Feb. 22, 2011 5:06 AM)Gibraltor Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 22, 2011 3:22 AM)Ultrablader Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 22, 2011 1:52 AM)Gibraltor Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 21, 2011 11:50 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: [ -> ]Other people's results show different though.
NO they don't. Where do you get your info at? Look at the thread SSJ posted it obviously shows otherwise. Hell is very circumstancial as an attack type at different heights. So no it isn't good enough to be a tier.
For god sake. This is just another case of misinterpreting what I say. I meant that other results show better performance than this which they do! I mean 50% against stamina. Not meaning any offence to iR but there is something seriously wrong with that considering other testing has shown it doing well vs Rubber Defence combos. Yeah no other metal wheels are circumstantial... Oh wait there's Vulcan, Pegasis and Ray. All of these only perform well on one/two tracks only. Yet they've all been/are top tier. Say whatever you want but your opinion of it being circumstancial makes like no sense at all. If it has good smash it will go on the top tier list. Simple as that.
You'd have a lot less misinterpretations if you would state what you meant and didn't think people knew what you were talking about, simple as that.
Given that LDrago does well on all size types then perhaps your top tier listing is wrong maybe? Perhaps any ring that can do well on all tracks is the only deserving of tier 1 eh? And even still that thread had Hell on every track and it really didn't do THAT well. Why not just stick with what works better eh?
Eh suppose that's a little blunt sorry. Just something I'd reconsider on the Tier 1 page.
erm I wasn't talking about my list... I was talking about the official top tier list. Vulcan is only good on like 2 - 3 tracks and ray and pegasis the same. The results varied quite a bit depending on the track used and what it was used against. Some of them got 80%. I can very easily see it becoming top tier. In all three types since it has very good use in all of them. Also a top tier attack combo is derived on by how powerful its smash is and how well it performs and not how many tracks it can be used on.
If you want to continue this lets do it through pm since this is pretty off topic.