Nov. 29, 2010 11:59 PM
Recently I’ve noticed that throughout the forum people have come to the general consensus that RSF is superior in terms of defensive prowess then it’s predecessor RS. I’ve created this topic in an attempt to gain a definitive answer to which bottom should be the defensive staple.
CONDITIONS:
Both combinations were launched using a Beyblauncher and Customize Grip.
Standard Attack Stadium.
Defence combinations were launched at 90%.
Defence combination always laucnhed first.
TESTING:
MF Gravity Perseus (Counter Mode, Right Spin) 90RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RSF
6 - 4: RSF’s win rate 40%
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RSF
7 - 3: RSF’s win rate 30%
MF Pegasus 145RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RSF
3 - 7: RSF’s win rate 70%
MF Lightning L Drago (Upper Mode) 100RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RSF
7 - 3: RSF’s win rate 30%
MF Gravity Perseus (Counter Mode, Right Spin) 90RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RS
2 - 8: RS’s win rate 80%
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RS
2 - 8: RS’s win rate 80%
MF Pegasus 145RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RS
0 - 10: RS’s win rate 100%
MF Lightning L Drago (Upper Mode) 100RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RS
5- 5: RS’s win rate 50%
MF Gravity Perseus (Counter Mode, Right Spin) 90RF VS
MF - H Earth (Second Mold) Bull GB145CS
6 - 4: CS’s win rate 40%
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85RF VS MF - H Earth (Second Mold) Bull GB145CS
5 - 5: CS’s win rate 50%
MF Lightning L Drago (Upper Mode) 100RF VS MF - H Earth (Second Mold) Bull GB145CS
7 - 3: CS’s win rate 30%
MF Pegasus 145RF VS MF - H Earth (Second Mold) Bull GB145CS
5 - 5: CS's win rate 50%
*EDITED WITH CS RESULTS*
OTHER MEMBERS TETSING:
WB is now (almost) irrelevant. Check this out:
Attack Stadium
Launcher Grip + BeyLauncher for both
RS custom always shot first
Banking with Attack type
MF Earth Aquario R145RS vs. Ray Pegasis II 100R2F
MF Earth Aquario R145RS: 15 wins
Ray Pegasis II 100R2F: 0 wins
RS win percentage: 100%
MF Earth Aquario R145RS vs. MF Pegasis 145RF
MF Earth Aquario R145RS: 14 wins
MF Pegasis 145RF: 0 wins
1 draw
RS win percentage: 100%
MF Earth Aquario R145RS vs. MF Pegasis 145R2F
MF Earth Aquario R145RS: 5 wins
MF Pegasis 145R2F: 0 wins
RS win percentage: 100%
MF Earth Aquario R145RS vs. MF Lightning L Drago 100R2F
MF Earth Aquario R145RS: 3 wins
MF Lightning L Drago 100R2F: 15 wins
2 draws
RS win percentage: 17%
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS vs. MF Lightning L Drago 100R2F
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS: 9 wins
MF Lightning L Drago 100R2F: 9 wins
2 draws
RS win percentage: 50%
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS vs. MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF (145 height)
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS: 8 wins
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 1 win
1 draw
RS win percentage: 89%
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS vs. Quetzalcoatl 90RF
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS: 5 wins
Quetzalcoatl 90RF: 0 wins
RS win percentage: 100%
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS vs. Quetzalcoatl 90R2F
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS: 9 wins
Quetzalcoatl 90R2F: 1 win
RS win percentage: 90%
Did some CS testing.
Attack Stadium
Launcher Grip + BeyLauncher for both
CS custom always shot first at 100%
Banking with Attack type
Worn RF
MF Pegasis 145RF vs. MF Earth Aquario GB145CS
MF Pegasis 145RF: 2 wins
MF Earth Aquario: 18 wins
CS win percentage: 90%
Ray Pegasis II 100RF vs. MF Earth Aquario GB145CS
Ray Pegasis II 100RF: 1 win
MF Earth Aquario GB145CS: 9 wins
CS win percentage: 90%
Even when the opposing Beyblade was able to get it past the tornado ridge, the rubber of CS still held it in. And while in Attack Mode, it was even able to counter the opposing Beyblade's strike and send it flying out of the stadium.
However,
MF Lightning L Drago 100RF vs. MF Earth Aquario GB145CS
MF Lightning L Drago 100RF: 18 wins
MF Earth Aquario GB145CS: 1 win
1 draw
CS win percentage: 5%
MF Lightning L Drago 100RF effortlessly was able to KO the CS custom without any difficulty whatsoever. MF Lightning L Drago 100RF is also quite effective against RS, so this wasn't a surprise. All of this being said, I do agree that CS is better than WB.
Also, since nobody else ever really cares to test my MF L Drago 100WF ... I took it upon myself to do so!
MF L Drago 100WF vs. MF Earth Aquario GB145CS
MF L Drago 100WF: 15 wins
MF Earth Aquario GB145CS: 1 win
4 draws
CS win percentage: 7%
I wasn't sure how it would fare because CS is much taller than WB and L Drago having contact with the opposing Metal Wheel is such an important factor in it's success, but it did just fine, arguably even better than it does against WB
As the results indicate RSF performed slightly worse then RS though both bottoms struggled against a left spin combination but RSF in particular. It’s a fact that RSF has better balance there isn’t denying that but what RS lacks in balance is more then made up in pure defensive prowess and survivability. RS’s ability to take consecutive hits from an RF opponent and still continue to stay within the stadium is simply amazing, RSF seems to reproduce this astounding feat to some degree but fails when the attacking force increases compared to RS whom could withstand such an attack.
I don’t want these results to detract anybody from trying to track down a RSF as it’s still a great defence bottom producing much greater win rates compared to the current staple defensive bottom that the majority of the forum uses WB, but unfortunately RSF is outperformed by RS but far from being outclassed and disregarded from the MFB meta game.
CONDITIONS:
Both combinations were launched using a Beyblauncher and Customize Grip.
Standard Attack Stadium.
Defence combinations were launched at 90%.
Defence combination always laucnhed first.
TESTING:
RSF Results (Click to View)
MF Gravity Perseus (Counter Mode, Right Spin) 90RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RSF
6 - 4: RSF’s win rate 40%
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RSF
7 - 3: RSF’s win rate 30%
MF Pegasus 145RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RSF
3 - 7: RSF’s win rate 70%
MF Lightning L Drago (Upper Mode) 100RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RSF
7 - 3: RSF’s win rate 30%
RS Results (Click to View)
MF Gravity Perseus (Counter Mode, Right Spin) 90RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RS
2 - 8: RS’s win rate 80%
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RS
2 - 8: RS’s win rate 80%
MF Pegasus 145RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RS
0 - 10: RS’s win rate 100%
MF Lightning L Drago (Upper Mode) 100RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RS
5- 5: RS’s win rate 50%
CS Results (Click to View)
MF Gravity Perseus (Counter Mode, Right Spin) 90RF VS
MF - H Earth (Second Mold) Bull GB145CS
6 - 4: CS’s win rate 40%
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85RF VS MF - H Earth (Second Mold) Bull GB145CS
5 - 5: CS’s win rate 50%
MF Lightning L Drago (Upper Mode) 100RF VS MF - H Earth (Second Mold) Bull GB145CS
7 - 3: CS’s win rate 30%
MF Pegasus 145RF VS MF - H Earth (Second Mold) Bull GB145CS
5 - 5: CS's win rate 50%
*EDITED WITH CS RESULTS*
OTHER MEMBERS TETSING:
Kei's RS Testing (Click to View)
WB is now (almost) irrelevant. Check this out:
Attack Stadium
Launcher Grip + BeyLauncher for both
RS custom always shot first
Banking with Attack type
MF Earth Aquario R145RS vs. Ray Pegasis II 100R2F
MF Earth Aquario R145RS: 15 wins
Ray Pegasis II 100R2F: 0 wins
RS win percentage: 100%
MF Earth Aquario R145RS vs. MF Pegasis 145RF
MF Earth Aquario R145RS: 14 wins
MF Pegasis 145RF: 0 wins
1 draw
RS win percentage: 100%
MF Earth Aquario R145RS vs. MF Pegasis 145R2F
MF Earth Aquario R145RS: 5 wins
MF Pegasis 145R2F: 0 wins
RS win percentage: 100%
MF Earth Aquario R145RS vs. MF Lightning L Drago 100R2F
MF Earth Aquario R145RS: 3 wins
MF Lightning L Drago 100R2F: 15 wins
2 draws
RS win percentage: 17%
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS vs. MF Lightning L Drago 100R2F
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS: 9 wins
MF Lightning L Drago 100R2F: 9 wins
2 draws
RS win percentage: 50%
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS vs. MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF (145 height)
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS: 8 wins
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 1 win
1 draw
RS win percentage: 89%
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS vs. Quetzalcoatl 90RF
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS: 5 wins
Quetzalcoatl 90RF: 0 wins
RS win percentage: 100%
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS vs. Quetzalcoatl 90R2F
MF Earth Aquario GB145RS: 9 wins
Quetzalcoatl 90R2F: 1 win
RS win percentage: 90%
Kei's CS Testing (Click to View)
Did some CS testing.
Attack Stadium
Launcher Grip + BeyLauncher for both
CS custom always shot first at 100%
Banking with Attack type
Worn RF
MF Pegasis 145RF vs. MF Earth Aquario GB145CS
MF Pegasis 145RF: 2 wins
MF Earth Aquario: 18 wins
CS win percentage: 90%
Ray Pegasis II 100RF vs. MF Earth Aquario GB145CS
Ray Pegasis II 100RF: 1 win
MF Earth Aquario GB145CS: 9 wins
CS win percentage: 90%
Even when the opposing Beyblade was able to get it past the tornado ridge, the rubber of CS still held it in. And while in Attack Mode, it was even able to counter the opposing Beyblade's strike and send it flying out of the stadium.
However,
MF Lightning L Drago 100RF vs. MF Earth Aquario GB145CS
MF Lightning L Drago 100RF: 18 wins
MF Earth Aquario GB145CS: 1 win
1 draw
CS win percentage: 5%
MF Lightning L Drago 100RF effortlessly was able to KO the CS custom without any difficulty whatsoever. MF Lightning L Drago 100RF is also quite effective against RS, so this wasn't a surprise. All of this being said, I do agree that CS is better than WB.
Also, since nobody else ever really cares to test my MF L Drago 100WF ... I took it upon myself to do so!
MF L Drago 100WF vs. MF Earth Aquario GB145CS
MF L Drago 100WF: 15 wins
MF Earth Aquario GB145CS: 1 win
4 draws
CS win percentage: 7%
I wasn't sure how it would fare because CS is much taller than WB and L Drago having contact with the opposing Metal Wheel is such an important factor in it's success, but it did just fine, arguably even better than it does against WB
As the results indicate RSF performed slightly worse then RS though both bottoms struggled against a left spin combination but RSF in particular. It’s a fact that RSF has better balance there isn’t denying that but what RS lacks in balance is more then made up in pure defensive prowess and survivability. RS’s ability to take consecutive hits from an RF opponent and still continue to stay within the stadium is simply amazing, RSF seems to reproduce this astounding feat to some degree but fails when the attacking force increases compared to RS whom could withstand such an attack.
I don’t want these results to detract anybody from trying to track down a RSF as it’s still a great defence bottom producing much greater win rates compared to the current staple defensive bottom that the majority of the forum uses WB, but unfortunately RSF is outperformed by RS but far from being outclassed and disregarded from the MFB meta game.