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that is a top tier combo with 145 so its no wonder its so good

Could you guys help me test Flame Bull 100/90/85 HF/RF? I have gotten okay results Vs. Rock Aqurio C145 WB, but that was in the Super Vortex and my defense combo was not top tier.

Please use the Parts Testing Request Thread for that, although I'll have to say that Flame's almost completely circular design will not allow for effective Attack at any height.

Edit: Corrected. =P

Flame is good to use on RF at various heights, but only against mid to high recoil attackers.

(Nov. 21, 2010  2:11 AM)桃太郎 Wrote: [ -> ]Well first of all, you were using a Stadium that's not legitimate for testing, and second, Lightning L-Drago on RF almost always yields win rates of around 75% (based from 20 rounds of testing), if not more. The only reason why WF can have that higher win rate is because it probably out-spun the opposing Bey.

I find it very hard to believe that L L-D has a win rate of 0% against a top-tier Defense Bey because normally it destroys them.

Oh.....LL-Drago was my 1st bey so it's probably old and less in performance...Oh,because in my local metagame,RF isn't good for most players.

Unless it's broken, the metal wheel and clear wheel should act the same

I tested this combo myself just now, but I need feedback/input from the community.


MF-F Flame Gemios 145SD vs MF-H Earth Bull C145WB
MFB Attack Stadium
Gemios Launches First with 1.5 second average delay (used stopwatch to time)
Used Light Launcher

1.Gemios wins by outspin
2.Bull wins by outspin
3.Gemios wins by outspin
4.Gemios wins by outspin
5.Bull wins by outspin
6.Gemios wins by outspin
7.Gemios wins by KO
8.Gemios wins by outspin
9.Gemios wins by KO
10.Gemios wins by outspin

An 80% win rate against the top tier defense type. I know that Stamina types are supposed to go against stamina types,but this kind of win rate can't be ignored.

all stamina types will have that high results and higher against a defence type, and flame is outclassed by earth and burn, and why did you put a mf on a stamina combo it lowers its stamina

Can a 'veteran' blader please test out MF-H Earth Bull 230RSF.

Apologies if someone's already suggested this...

(Nov. 26, 2010  7:58 PM)Cpt. Squirrel Wrote: [ -> ]Can a 'veteran' blader please test out MF-H Earth Bull 230RSF.

Apologies if someone's already suggested this...

im pretty sure your going to have to wait on that request. not many people have a 230 track at the moment.

(Nov. 25, 2010  11:12 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: [ -> ]and why did you put a mf on a stamina combo it lowers its stamina

He/She put on Metal Face Feather which is 0.6 grams lighter than a regular face

Quote:An 80% win rate against the top tier defense type. I know that Stamina types are supposed to go against stamina types,but this kind of win rate can't be ignored.

stamina types have an advantage over defense types. Test it against a top tier stamina type.

Vulcan shouldn't be here anymore. It's now DEFINITELY a top-tier combo. For now, at least.

I've had good results with MF Gravity Perseus (attack version) CH120 CS, though I've only got a Hasbro LLDrago Stadium (I've compared it's results to MF LLDrago 100/CH120 RF/CS and Ray Unicorno 100 RF/CS, versus Dark Bull GB145RS and Dark ___ 145WD, and it seems to be more reliable).

Could someone quickly test how it does against MF Lightning LDrago 85/95/100 RF for me? I don't have a second MF, and I'm curious to see if MF Gravity Perseus CH120 CS can resist being thrown out of a TT Stadium. I've got Perseus in the most attacking mode (according to the box, anyway ), and have been using it in right spin with a straight launch against LLDrago (the aim being to survive, then outspin it). If you've got a second CS, it may be worth replacing LLDragos RF with that, and testing, but I'm more interested in what happens if they both have a MF. Might be worth trying Perseus in right and left spin, as I'm getting varied results with each right now, but I think a TT stadium might make it more clear)

If no-one has the Perseus Re-Shuffle set, a normal Gravity Perseus in counter mode (that's the one with 6 contact points, right?) makes a decent, if not as reliable, substitute.

Hope this isn't too much, but yeah, the MF seems to make quite a difference to my results, yeah.

Also, when launching perseus, try to launch it on the inner slope of the stadium, but without banking, so the rubber at the side of the tip should make contact, and he should roam in a small circle (not even as wide as the thunder ridge). I think this gives it enough grip to survive the first hit from LLDrago, and after that, it seems to be able to take further hits from, and then outspin LLDrago. I'm thinking right spin works better, but yeah, not totally sure. To simplify, the main point is to survive the first hit, or first couple of hits, (maybe hit back a bit), and outspin.

Not quite sure how it'll work against another CS-tip attack blade, but the shorter attacking period of the other blade should be easier to survive, then it's a matter of outspinning and taking/dishing out weaker hits. Seeing as Gravity is a pretty heavy wheel, this should be okay, though I'm not sure how much Vulcan weighs (I think I'm off on a tangent now anyways)

By the way, if this isn't the right thread, can someone point me in the right direction. I figured this might be right, as it's done well compared to the top tier attack combos I've tried so far (who don't do as well versus Dark Bull GB145RS (not top tier, I know, Earth Aquila is in the mail, along with a few other useful beys, but the comparison is what matters), or at least have been less reliable, anyway (as Perseus seems to have a decent chance at outspinning RS tips, and topples WB)).

Thanks for your input, but the fact is hasbro stadiums alter the results drastically. Even FS does decent in a hasbro stadium. Also, I find that Putting gravity perseus on a 145 height is optimal, as I started the initial attack testing of gravity. I'm really glad its been followed up by the community.

BTW guys, has it been proven that gravity works better on lower tracks? I find it to have more attack when its on a relatively high track... of course, with more recoil as well...

EDIT: Because of school and lots of homework, I havent been able to log on. If there are any updates i need to make in the OP please let me know! Once again I apologize for not being able to keep up with this thread. Thnx guys!

If Thermal is based on Pisces, should it work on the "Shark Sashimi" Combo? I get pretty good results against Ray 100 RF-Based combos. It gets KO'ed sometimes in epic fashion, but only very early in a battle, like 9-10 seconds into the battle. (My Thermal is Hasbro.)

Nojo, I'm suggesting the addition of [MF/MF-H] Gravity Perseus [85]/90/100/D125RF/R^2F/LRF. It's proven itself already at D125, and I think it has potential.

(Dec. 05, 2010  7:40 PM)桃太郎 Wrote: [ -> ]Nojo, I'm suggesting the addition of [MF/MF-H] Gravity Perseus [85]/90/100/D125RF/R^2F/LRF. It's proven itself already at D125, and I think it has potential.

alright Ill add that and take off vulcan...

Here is the link to my Thread so you can link it to the OP, if it's not too much trouble, and of course, if you'd like.

I believe that this rock Leone 100 Fs combo has great potential. I built this combo to beat the toptier defensive combos. The only one I'm able to make is the earth bull c145 wd/WB. Not so sure how it will handle toptier attack combos however

Nooooooo
mediocre stamina combo, so what if it beats defense?

These are my combos and they have proven to be quite useful. If these have already been mentoned then disregard them, otherwise if they are quite useful feel free to post them in the OP ^^ I don't beleive they are mentioned in the OP though

MLD 100WD
Ray Gil 100LF
MF-H Earth Bull 100RSF.

You need lots of testing done by more than one user that shows favourable results before they will be posted up here.

Funny I thought this forum was built for testing results not telling people your opinion on it. I'd rather have test results tell me im wrong with proof then a simple noooooo

(Dec. 06, 2010  8:27 PM)Auska Wrote: [ -> ]Funny I thought this forum was built for testing results not telling people your opinion on it. I'd rather have test results tell me im wrong with proof then a simple noooooo

Okay that's fine, you can prefer your results over Mc Frowns "noooo"....but until we see real testing results we are going to agree with what we know....which is that combo, though you have been able to win with it, is not top tier.