(Aug. 08, 2022 3:08 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 08, 2022 12:41 PM)StarNova_Burst Wrote: [ -> ]Being able to edit the Google doc would be great, as I would be able to add all the things I meant to say, as there was one part in this thread where apparently I was being a bit vague. Then I would be able to clarify a bit more.
Ok, that's great! Pm me your email and if anyone else wants to be on the doc, pm me as well.
Unfortunately, I asked my parents if I could and they said no. So if possible, after you finish the doc, maybe you can put the link in the thread and I can review it.
(Aug. 08, 2022 2:55 PM)Doubledealer Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 17, 2022 9:10 AM)Hollowmind8 Wrote: [ -> ].
No metal contact is a good one to have.
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I was also thinking of dividing beys by ranks according to weight so that lightweight beys like Dual layers could have a shot at this, but idk.
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Also, you would need to better define "excessive metal" and "break" a little more: How much is excessive? What is the limit? How do you know?
What about chipping? Does that count as a break if a small bit of my beyblade falls off? What if it chips a lot, is it a break?
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About number 3, what about slopes? Do they count or..?
How bout gt chips
Gt chips would be fine if you wanted, but the teeth could wear, so I wouldn't really recommend it.
(Aug. 09, 2022 5:56 PM)StarNova_Burst Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 08, 2022 3:08 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, that's great! Pm me your email and if anyone else wants to be on the doc, pm me as well.
Unfortunately, I asked my parents if I could and they said no. So if possible, after you finish the doc, maybe you can put the link in the thread and I can review it.
(Aug. 08, 2022 2:55 PM)Doubledealer Wrote: [ -> ]How bout gt chips
Gt chips would be fine if you wanted, but the teeth could wear, so I wouldn't really recommend it.
K no problem. here's the link. If anyone else wants to suggest some stuff feel free to do so.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e2g3...sp=sharing
Most of it is copy pasted from other format docs (because they're outlining the basic rules of play). The words highlighted in yellow are the things i added.
It might be a good idea to have a reputation system, to encourage fair designs and creativity. Not a be all end all thing of course.
(Aug. 09, 2022 6:22 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 09, 2022 5:56 PM)StarNova_Burst Wrote: [ -> ]Unfortunately, I asked my parents if I could and they said no. So if possible, after you finish the doc, maybe you can put the link in the thread and I can review it.
Gt chips would be fine if you wanted, but the teeth could wear, so I wouldn't really recommend it.
K no problem. here's the link. If anyone else wants to suggest some stuff feel free to do so.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e2g3...sp=sharing
Most of it is copy pasted from other format docs (because they're outlining the basic rules of play). The words highlighted in yellow are the things i added.
The only problem is that I think that maybe custom drivers can be allowed in the format and maybe we can let custom drivers be allowed, and then maybe ban certain broken ones.
(Aug. 10, 2022 2:08 AM)StarNova_Burst Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 09, 2022 6:22 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: [ -> ]K no problem. here's the link. If anyone else wants to suggest some stuff feel free to do so.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e2g3...sp=sharing
Most of it is copy pasted from other format docs (because they're outlining the basic rules of play). The words highlighted in yellow are the things i added.
The only problem is that I think that maybe custom drivers can be allowed in the format and maybe we can let custom drivers be allowed, and then maybe ban certain broken ones.
I thought about letting it be legal but right we're trying to make this and get this format approved. So, for now i think custom drivers should be illegal. It's easier to add rules later.
(Aug. 10, 2022 4:11 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 10, 2022 2:08 AM)StarNova_Burst Wrote: [ -> ]The only problem is that I think that maybe custom drivers can be allowed in the format and maybe we can let custom drivers be allowed, and then maybe ban certain broken ones.
I thought about letting it be legal but right we're trying to make this and get this format approved. So, for now i think custom drivers should be illegal. It's easier to add rules later.
I agree with this. We want to make some compromises so that this format gets approved, but later on we can add extra rules and sub-formats, like custom drivers, and custom (but agreed on) systems.
(Aug. 10, 2022 5:33 PM)Scorponok Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 10, 2022 4:11 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: [ -> ]I thought about letting it be legal but right we're trying to make this and get this format approved. So, for now i think custom drivers should be illegal. It's easier to add rules later.
I agree with this. We want to make some compromises so that this format gets approved, but later on we can add extra rules and sub-formats, like custom drivers, and custom (but agreed on) systems.
Now that you give your reasoning, I can see why you didn't want to add custom drivers. That makes much more sense
(Aug. 10, 2022 9:07 AM)fireblaze1 Wrote: [ -> ]Hello, Everyone. I made a thread about 3D Printed Beys: https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-3d-Prin...-the-Anime, I going to use the ones I got from Mercari.com including some OG Plastic Gen ones in some Team, Tag team, & regular beybattles on my YouTube Channel, Cyber Warrior: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQUzDnI...l-TtQL9bCQ for some never seen from the series.
I hope you guys will give a reply or two on this thread page on some questions of the battles, I'll do in the future?
I got some of these beys:
Sharkrash: https://beyblade.fandom.com/wiki/Sharkrash
Vanishing Moot: https://beyblade.fandom.com/wiki/Vanishing_Moot
Trygle 2: https://beyblade.fandom.com/wiki/Trygle_2
Galeon 2: https://beyblade.fandom.com/wiki/Galeon_2
Including the Falcon Beys, but without Weight Disks:
Falborg 1 (S) - https://beyblade.fandom.com/wiki/Falborg
Falborg 2 - https://beyblade.fandom.com/wiki/Falborg_2
You guys can go there to see yourselves that I got these three beys from Mercari.com by Ghostmaster: https://www.mercari.com/u/972522073/?tra...8748147279.
Here are other links of Ghostmaster's pages for 3D Printed Beyblades stuff:
Shapeways: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/ghost...
Cults.3D: https://cults3d.com/en/users/Ghostmas...
I... don't know what you're talking about. My knowledge is limited solely to burst, nothing before that. Maybe can someone else explain what he says after "I got some of these beys" please? I'm not sure if they are metal beys or plastic gen beys or what.
(Aug. 10, 2022 5:54 PM)StarNova_Burst Wrote: [ -> ]I... don't know what you're talking about. My knowledge is limited solely to burst, nothing before that. Maybe can someone else explain what he says after "I got some of these beys" please? I'm not sure if they are metal beys or plastic gen beys or what.
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My guess is that they thought they were creating a thread, but it could also be missunderstanding on what the thread is about?
They do mention something about reply on this (supposedly new) thread so it is possible.
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Btw yeah, custom drivers would be too much for starting out. Making a custom format like this adds a lot of customization that is simply too much for the start.
Though I presume, if it gets ranked, only official systems would be allowed? At least in the start to make it fairly fair. Maybe even locking systems like "only db" or "only sparking" on some tournaments.
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Unranked would have a lot of variety to compensate tho: Custom system tournament. Custom stadium, Same driver/layer/disc/idk for all but the rest is custom (includes same combo but 1 custom part), A challenge tournament that you must create a new bey from scratch within the day it is announced and before a certain date (possibly 1 week before the event) (you must post proof that you created it in the thread before the timer ends), Spriggan core only but any custom part, only a certain bey line is allowed like Valkyrie or Kukulcan idk, etc...
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That's a lot imo, though some of these can be made in standard rn, it's just that nobody did it yet.
(Aug. 11, 2022 12:09 PM)Hollowmind8 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 10, 2022 5:54 PM)StarNova_Burst Wrote: [ -> ]I... don't know what you're talking about. My knowledge is limited solely to burst, nothing before that. Maybe can someone else explain what he says after "I got some of these beys" please? I'm not sure if they are metal beys or plastic gen beys or what.
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My guess is that they thought they were creating a thread, but it could also be missunderstanding on what the thread is about?
They do mention something about reply on this (supposedly new) thread so it is possible.
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Btw yeah, custom drivers would be too much for starting out. Making a custom format like this adds a lot of customization that is simply too much for the start.
Though I presume, if it gets ranked, only official systems would be allowed? At least in the start to make it fairly fair. Maybe even locking systems like "only db" or "only sparking" on some tournaments.
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Unranked would have a lot of variety to compensate tho: Custom system tournament. Custom stadium, Same driver/layer/disc/idk for all but the rest is custom (includes same combo but 1 custom part), A challenge tournament that you must create a new bey from scratch within the day it is announced and before a certain date (possibly 1 week before the event) (you must post proof that you created it in the thread before the timer ends), Spriggan core only but any custom part, only a certain bey line is allowed like Valkyrie or Kukulcan idk, etc...
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That's a lot imo, though some of these can be made in standard rn, it's just that nobody did it yet.
Yeah, for now i think that the draft rules should only allow TT/Hasbro official systems and a standard stadium (potentially DB stadium too). I'm also thinking of adding a rule saying "A design must have 2 notable recoil points". Since we don't want a maximum garuda with burst stoppers and strong teeth weighing 80 grams just sitting in the stadium.
I'm also not entirely sure how any format gets approved (like what is the process to approve a format). It would be nice if organizers (or anyone) can host an unofficial/unranked tournament with these rules.
(Aug. 11, 2022 3:51 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 11, 2022 12:09 PM)Hollowmind8 Wrote: [ -> ].
My guess is that they thought they were creating a thread, but it could also be missunderstanding on what the thread is about?
They do mention something about reply on this (supposedly new) thread so it is possible.
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Btw yeah, custom drivers would be too much for starting out. Making a custom format like this adds a lot of customization that is simply too much for the start.
Though I presume, if it gets ranked, only official systems would be allowed? At least in the start to make it fairly fair. Maybe even locking systems like "only db" or "only sparking" on some tournaments.
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Unranked would have a lot of variety to compensate tho: Custom system tournament. Custom stadium, Same driver/layer/disc/idk for all but the rest is custom (includes same combo but 1 custom part), A challenge tournament that you must create a new bey from scratch within the day it is announced and before a certain date (possibly 1 week before the event) (you must post proof that you created it in the thread before the timer ends), Spriggan core only but any custom part, only a certain bey line is allowed like Valkyrie or Kukulcan idk, etc...
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That's a lot imo, though some of these can be made in standard rn, it's just that nobody did it yet.
Yeah, for now i think that the draft rules should only allow TT/Hasbro official systems and a standard stadium (potentially DB stadium too). I'm also thinking of adding a rule saying "A design must have 2 notable recoil points". Since we don't want a maximum garuda with burst stoppers and strong teeth weighing 80 grams just sitting in the stadium.
I'm also not entirely sure how any format gets approved (like what is the process to approve a format). It would be nice if organizers (or anyone) can host an unofficial/unranked tournament with these rules.
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afaik the process is testing it on tournaments, see if it is good/fun, and after some testings see if approved or not.
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As for the anti-Garuda ruling, for a start it is a good option. Having a perfect circle is quite worrying. Tho smth like that would prob be fine if we forced slopes and no stoppers.
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Another ruling that should be discussed is the "TT drivers on teeth stuff and Hasbro on slopes". We keep it or nah? Since not all parts are custom and there is the teeth/slopes option.
(Aug. 11, 2022 8:17 PM)Hollowmind8 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 11, 2022 3:51 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, for now i think that the draft rules should only allow TT/Hasbro official systems and a standard stadium (potentially DB stadium too). I'm also thinking of adding a rule saying "A design must have 2 notable recoil points". Since we don't want a maximum garuda with burst stoppers and strong teeth weighing 80 grams just sitting in the stadium.
I'm also not entirely sure how any format gets approved (like what is the process to approve a format). It would be nice if organizers (or anyone) can host an unofficial/unranked tournament with these rules.
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afaik the process is testing it on tournaments, see if it is good/fun, and after some testings see if approved or not.
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As for the anti-Garuda ruling, for a start it is a good option. Having a perfect circle is quite worrying. Tho smth like that would prob be fine if we forced slopes and no stoppers.
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Another ruling that should be discussed is the "TT drivers on teeth stuff and Hasbro on slopes". We keep it or nah? Since not all parts are custom and there is the teeth/slopes option.
Yeah, I'm going to add some rules to the doc later. Also, no metal teeth or slopes cause that can seriously damage the drivers.
(Aug. 11, 2022 8:17 PM)Hollowmind8 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 11, 2022 3:51 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, for now i think that the draft rules should only allow TT/Hasbro official systems and a standard stadium (potentially DB stadium too). I'm also thinking of adding a rule saying "A design must have 2 notable recoil points". Since we don't want a maximum garuda with burst stoppers and strong teeth weighing 80 grams just sitting in the stadium.
I'm also not entirely sure how any format gets approved (like what is the process to approve a format). It would be nice if organizers (or anyone) can host an unofficial/unranked tournament with these rules.
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afaik the process is testing it on tournaments, see if it is good/fun, and after some testings see if approved or not.
.
As for the anti-Garuda ruling, for a start it is a good option. Having a perfect circle is quite worrying. Tho smth like that would prob be fine if we forced slopes and no stoppers.
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Another ruling that should be discussed is the "TT drivers on teeth stuff and Hasbro on slopes". We keep it or nah? Since not all parts are custom and there is the teeth/slopes option.
I think we should ban dash and metal drivers on slopes, but drivers with normal springs are allowed on them, even if they are tt. This is to avoid too strong slopes, and too weak ones at the same time.
(Aug. 12, 2022 7:24 PM)StarNova_Burst Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 11, 2022 8:17 PM)Hollowmind8 Wrote: [ -> ].
afaik the process is testing it on tournaments, see if it is good/fun, and after some testings see if approved or not.
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As for the anti-Garuda ruling, for a start it is a good option. Having a perfect circle is quite worrying. Tho smth like that would prob be fine if we forced slopes and no stoppers.
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Another ruling that should be discussed is the "TT drivers on teeth stuff and Hasbro on slopes". We keep it or nah? Since not all parts are custom and there is the teeth/slopes option.
I think we should ban dash and metal drivers on slopes, but drivers with normal springs are allowed on them, even if they are tt. This is to avoid too strong slopes, and too weak ones at the same time.
All dash and metal drivers are PRO series and TT which are already banned from getting put on slopes.
(Aug. 12, 2022 9:15 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 12, 2022 7:24 PM)StarNova_Burst Wrote: [ -> ]I think we should ban dash and metal drivers on slopes, but drivers with normal springs are allowed on them, even if they are tt. This is to avoid too strong slopes, and too weak ones at the same time.
All dash and metal drivers are PRO series and TT which are already banned from getting put on slopes.
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What about Hasbro drivers? Or is that just straight up banned?
Also Hasbro systems in general
(Aug. 12, 2022 10:52 PM)Hollowmind8 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 12, 2022 9:15 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: [ -> ]All dash and metal drivers are PRO series and TT which are already banned from getting put on slopes.
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What about Hasbro drivers? Or is that just straight up banned?
Also Hasbro systems in general
Non pro series has to drivers can be put on slopes. As stated in the doc you can base your design off any official system. But I would imagine most people would go for a TT template since it’s simply just better
Hello All,
I'm sorry to jump in this conversation so suddenly but, I have great news regarding 3d printed Beyblade formats.
First why am I here:
I am not a wbo official, but I am an official organizer for the Texas BeyBlade League. The TBBL has been doing major beyblade events since 2005 and we receive support from Universities, major companies, and independent school systems. We have helped with wbo and other beyblade groups events before. So, now post pandemic I am looking to start a pro level beyblade league initiative. This will likely be through official beyblade clubs that we recognize and at some point will involve a 3d printed format.
The Topic:
We have touched on the idea of a 3d printed beyblades before. After a 3d bey tournament took place at an event we ran, we had an article written up on it in our 2nd newsletter (Here's a link to some beyblade newsletters:
https://www.texasbeybladeleague.com/newsletters). In the future we want to have a set of full regulations for managing 3d printed and/or crafted beyblades.
The News:
We have already met with university labs and maker spaces to gauge approval for workshops where Beyblade Clubs will be allowed to use industry level equipment (design programs, 3d printers, and metal printers included) along with professional instruction to design parts to use in our pro level competitions. So far all the parties involved love the idea. However our team is small and post pandemic we do not have enough knowledgeable individuals to file out the specifics of the regulations right now.
For a format to be official and a tournament to be done the ruleset must address all aspects that can be contested and enough participating parties must abide by and participate within the regulations using said ruleset. There must be a method to its structure so that everything is fair and other parts of the written format can be referenced to address outliers. (Rough made up ex: Cannot have a denser metal disk that is less than an inch in diameter not because you are not allowed that size but because it is denser and smaller it will raise the rpms on a base level spin to be higher than regulation giving it enough force to damage the stadium or smaller parts on opposing blades)
After extensive enough review and re-review, if a format or even a wide enough set of regulations is written to a useable degree then I can make it official (Not wbo official, but I can make it official at high schools, universities, local clubs, and at some major events). After the pro level community is built up then I can host the tournament at the TexasBeyBlade League and clubs and teams can participate where they all use 3d printed/crafted beyblades.
Also we are very much open to some type of custom beyblade design service, however it must fit under our total 3d crafted beyblade regulations which we don't have right now. Please fill me in on any other ideas you have on 3d crafted bey formats and regulations. If some other documents exist on the matter already then I would like to know.
(Aug. 13, 2022 4:49 AM)Zarius Wrote: [ -> ]Hello All,
I'm sorry to jump in this conversation so suddenly but, I have great news regarding 3d printed Beyblade formats.
First why am I here:
I am not a wbo official, but I am an official organizer for the Texas BeyBlade League. The TBBL has been doing major beyblade events since 2005 and we receive support from Universities, major companies, and independent school systems. We have helped with wbo and other beyblade groups events before. So, now post pandemic I am looking to start a pro level beyblade league initiative. This will likely be through official beyblade clubs that we recognize and at some point will involve a 3d printed format.
The Topic:
We have touched on the idea of a 3d printed beyblades before. After a 3d bey tournament took place at an event we ran, we had an article written up on it in our 2nd newsletter (Here's a link to some beyblade newsletters: https://www.texasbeybladeleague.com/newsletters). In the future we want to have a set of full regulations for managing 3d printed and/or crafted beyblades.
The News:
We have already met with university labs and maker spaces to gauge approval for workshops where Beyblade Clubs will be allowed to use industry level equipment (design programs, 3d printers, and metal printers included) along with professional instruction to design parts to use in our pro level competitions. So far all the parties involved love the idea. However our team is small and post pandemic we do not have enough knowledgeable individuals to file out the specifics of the regulations right now.
For a format to be official and a tournament to be done the ruleset must address all aspects that can be contested and enough participating parties must abide by and participate within the regulations using said ruleset. There must be a method to its structure so that everything is fair and other parts of the written format can be referenced to address outliers. (Rough made up ex: Cannot have a denser metal disk that is less than an inch in diameter not because you are not allowed that size but because it is denser and smaller it will raise the rpms on a base level spin to be higher than regulation giving it enough force to damage the stadium or smaller parts on opposing blades)
After extensive enough review and re-review, if a format or even a wide enough set of regulations is written to a useable degree then I can make it official (Not wbo official, but I can make it official at high schools, universities, local clubs, and at some major events). After the pro level community is built up then I can host the tournament at the TexasBeyBlade League and clubs and teams can participate where they all use 3d printed/crafted beyblades.
Also we are very much open to some type of custom beyblade design service, however it must fit under our total 3d crafted beyblade regulations which we don't have right now. Please fill me in on any other ideas you have on 3d crafted bey formats and regulations. If some other documents exist on the matter already then I would like to know.
Ok, so that was a really long paragraph, and I have a really short attention span, but what I got from that is that your org is one that holds beyblade tournaments for schools (presumably in Texas, hence the name), and has seen the rules for this in progress format, and decided that this is a good format to use at other events. Am I correct or did I miss something?
step 1. make oval layer
step 2. max out on weight
step 3. xtreme'
step 4. profit
To be honest I would love the see a format where maiden and the other 3d beys can shine.
I’d say it could be spike more excitement to the new bladers and people on wbo
(Aug. 13, 2022 4:49 AM)Zarius Wrote: [ -> ]Hello All,
I'm sorry to jump in this conversation so suddenly but, I have great news regarding 3d printed Beyblade formats.
First why am I here:
I am not a wbo official, but I am an official organizer for the Texas BeyBlade League. The TBBL has been doing major beyblade events since 2005 and we receive support from Universities, major companies, and independent school systems. We have helped with wbo and other beyblade groups events before. So, now post pandemic I am looking to start a pro level beyblade league initiative. This will likely be through official beyblade clubs that we recognize and at some point will involve a 3d printed format.
The Topic:
We have touched on the idea of a 3d printed beyblades before. After a 3d bey tournament took place at an event we ran, we had an article written up on it in our 2nd newsletter (Here's a link to some beyblade newsletters: https://www.texasbeybladeleague.com/newsletters). In the future we want to have a set of full regulations for managing 3d printed and/or crafted beyblades.
The News:
We have already met with university labs and maker spaces to gauge approval for workshops where Beyblade Clubs will be allowed to use industry level equipment (design programs, 3d printers, and metal printers included) along with professional instruction to design parts to use in our pro level competitions. So far all the parties involved love the idea. However our team is small and post pandemic we do not have enough knowledgeable individuals to file out the specifics of the regulations right now.
For a format to be official and a tournament to be done the ruleset must address all aspects that can be contested and enough participating parties must abide by and participate within the regulations using said ruleset. There must be a method to its structure so that everything is fair and other parts of the written format can be referenced to address outliers. (Rough made up ex: Cannot have a denser metal disk that is less than an inch in diameter not because you are not allowed that size but because it is denser and smaller it will raise the rpms on a base level spin to be higher than regulation giving it enough force to damage the stadium or smaller parts on opposing blades)
After extensive enough review and re-review, if a format or even a wide enough set of regulations is written to a useable degree then I can make it official (Not wbo official, but I can make it official at high schools, universities, local clubs, and at some major events). After the pro level community is built up then I can host the tournament at the TexasBeyBlade League and clubs and teams can participate where they all use 3d printed/crafted beyblades.
Also we are very much open to some type of custom beyblade design service, however it must fit under our total 3d crafted beyblade regulations which we don't have right now. Please fill me in on any other ideas you have on 3d crafted bey formats and regulations. If some other documents exist on the matter already then I would like to know.
This is exciting! If you didn’t see above, I made a mock regulation document for the format. I’m currently away right now so, I’ll read the news articles later and add more rules to the rule book.
Link to format:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e2g3...sp=sharing
Well I am happy there is gonna be 3d printed format soon!
(Aug. 22, 2022 5:25 AM)kai edits Wrote: [ -> ]Well I am happy there is gonna be 3d printed format soon!
Hopefully
Also is it possible to ping people in the wbo? If so can we ping organizers?