With the few parts I have, I've come up with two somewhat passable Defense customs: Rock Leone ED145WB and Rock Leone CH120WB. At the same time, I put together two Stamina customs: Storm Bull DF145SD and Rock Bull DF145SD. 120 rounds of testing were required to thoroughly obtain data on each of these customs, and here are my results:
Rock Leone ED145WB: 13 Wins (65%) 3 KO's Inflicted
vs.
Storm Bull DF145SD: 7 Wins (35%) 3 KO's Inflicted
Rock Leone ED145WB: 10 Wins (50%) 3 KO's Inflicted
vs.
Rock Bull DF145SD: 10 Wins (50%) 1 KO Inflicted
Rock Leone CH120WB (145 Height): 16 Wins (80%) 2 KO's Inflicted
vs.
Storm Bull DF145SD: 4 Wins (20%) No KO's Inflicted
Rock Leone CH120WB (145 Height): 5 Wins (25%) 2 KO's Inflicted
vs.
Rock Bull DF145SD: 15 Wins: (75%) 1 KO Inflicted
Rock Leone CH120WB (120 Height): 17 Wins (85%) 2 KO's Inflicted
vs.
Storm Bull DF145SD: 3 Wins (15%)
Rock Leone CH120WB (120 Height): 6 Wins (30%) 2 KO's Inflicted
vs.
Rock Bull DF145SD: 14 Wins (70%) 1 KO Inflicted
Rock Leone ED145WB seems to be a passable Defense custom, based on the parts that I have. However, the ED145 Track comes into contact with the Stadium floor too soon when the Bey loses its momentum. Furthermore, Rock Bull DF145SD projects decent Stamina and Defense characteristics, although balance is lost quite easily as momentum is lost.
Originally, I thought that Storm Bull DF145SD would be a decent Stamina custom, due to the Metal Wheel's light weight, but there was too much recoil produced by this Bey. I took that into consideration whilst putting it together, however. I would like to add that it could not win against any of the Rock Leone customs. Rock Leone CH120WB (120/145 Height) seemed to be a devastating combination when pitted against Storm Bull DF145SD, but it proved to be no match against Rock Bull DF145D. I've casually put Rock Leone CH120WB (120/145 Height) against Rock Bull DF145SD, and 2/3 times, Rock Leone CH120WB (120/145 Height) would win, but it seems with more thorough testing, ED145 is the more suitable Track.
In conclusion, I believe that, based on what I've produced here, Rock Leone ED145WB and Rock Bull DF145SD are the two best Beys I can come up with. I didn't use Storm Pegasis 100RF against any of the customs I built because the Pegasus Thunder Whip Stadium I have is too Defense/Stamina-biased in my opinion. I also do not have any Metal Faces, Flame Sagittario C145S copies or Earth Aquila 145WD copies to produce top-tier Defense and Stamina customs at the moment, but I plan on purchasing/testing them when my current financial status allows me to. I know I've cliched and said things that are already known to the senior members of the WBO, so please forgive me for that.
Thanks for reading. =)
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lol, SD on an attack bey?
This isn't worth posting.
Well I thought that Storm was light enough to use as a Stamina wheel, but I know now that it produces too much recoil. I'm just experimenting with the wheels I have, as well as reading around on the WBO. Ya don't have to be a pair of wet socks =P
It isn't total carp about Storm with Stamina I did some testing on my own awhile back to prove that it was a better wheel over Dark when you don't have something like Flame or Burn readily available I got results supporting my original thesis that the round shape and balance of Storm would make for an okay stamina wheel.
Well almost anything is better than Dark at everything : /
(Jul. 01, 2010 7:19 PM)Mc Frown Wrote: [ -> ]Well almost anything is better than Dark at everything : /
Yes I'm aware of that however someone told me on here the Dark would be passable over Storm and I proved scientifically that it is not the case. Storm actually gets around 3:18 on average and that was with a massive blip in my data that I still have no explanation for.
Obviously Flame and Earth and Burn are much better wheels but I didn't have a Flame at the time and was having to make do. My point is people shouldn't count out Storm completely given the lack of other wheels.
(Jul. 01, 2010 7:47 PM)Train Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 01, 2010 7:19 PM)Mc Frown Wrote: [ -> ]Well almost anything is better than Dark at everything : /
Yes I'm aware of that however someone told me on here the Dark would be passable over Storm and I proved scientifically that it is not the case. Storm actually gets around 3:18 on average and that was with a massive blip in my data that I still have no explanation for.
Obviously Flame and Earth and Burn are much better wheels but I didn't have a Flame at the time and was having to make do. My point is people shouldn't count out Storm completely given the lack of other wheels.
But I already said ... :
(May. 25, 2010 3:58 PM)♥ Wrote: [ -> ]Solo Spin Time isn't really informative. For Stamina types, it is the ability to retain spin through prolonged contact which is most useful.
If you want to show Storm's use in Stamina customisations, you need to use it against another Stamina customisation, with the same Face, Track and Bottom.
Why don't you just get the pack with Rock leone and Flame bull and make this: Flame Bull DF145SD. This would be much better especially since it's a top tier stamina combo.
(Jul. 01, 2010 7:50 PM)♥ Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 01, 2010 7:47 PM)Train Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 01, 2010 7:19 PM)Mc Frown Wrote: [ -> ]Well almost anything is better than Dark at everything : /
Yes I'm aware of that however someone told me on here the Dark would be passable over Storm and I proved scientifically that it is not the case. Storm actually gets around 3:18 on average and that was with a massive blip in my data that I still have no explanation for.
Obviously Flame and Earth and Burn are much better wheels but I didn't have a Flame at the time and was having to make do. My point is people shouldn't count out Storm completely given the lack of other wheels.
But I already said ... :
(May. 25, 2010 3:58 PM)♥ Wrote: [ -> ]Solo Spin Time isn't really informative. For Stamina types, it is the ability to retain spin through prolonged contact which is most useful.
If you want to show Storm's use in Stamina customisations, you need to use it against another Stamina customisation, with the same Face, Track and Bottom.
Actually I had a better plan of sending it against a defence (albeit a crappy defence Rock Aquario M145WB) and my Flame Bull DF145SD beat out my Storm Geminos DF145SD quite badly and the results are clear as to why. There is way too much recoil with Storm against Rock compared to when Flame was facing it.
I honestly forgot Hasbro released flame.
That won't show how good a stamina combo it is at all though...
I'll pick up the two pack when it becomes available (kids raid stores faster than Shinkansen in Japan...). I'll take <3's advice and test out "Flame Bull DF145SD" along with "Storm Bull DF145SD" and post the results, although I can kinda foresee the outcome. =P Nevertheless, I'm always willing to prove my current data wrong.
One more thing: has anyone tested the pre-HWS Escolpio Wheel for Defense OR Stamina purposes? How does it perform?
Noooooooo! Pre hws escolpio is horrible for defence. It's no where near heavy enough and has really bad recoil. I've got one. Don't buy it. Also what's the point in testing the storm combo when we know for a fact that the flame one is better?
lol I don't have a Flame Wheel yet... And since Storm is my lightest Wheel, I thought I should give it a go~ There was terrible recoil and it didn't last as long as Rock did, but I want to try it again before I get a Flame Wheel.
Can you test which one has more recoil cause that one decide which one to use till you get Flame.
Also your best bet would be to put bull on that defense combo given that it is your heaviest wheel unless your just really attached to your leone but the better option would be bull.
Wait, if you're in Japan why would you own all these garbage beys?
Wouldn't you have something better?
Just because I'm Japanese doesn't mean I live there =P I'm living off of 'decent' Hasbro Beys at the moment cuz I can't really afford shipping and stuff from Japan (I have a car to pay for). @ Marco, I am attached to Leone; twas my first MF Bey <3. And @ megablader2, I'll get on it ASAP and have the observation notes and results posted
(Jul. 02, 2010 2:47 AM)桃太郎 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll pick up the two pack when it becomes available (kids raid stores faster than Shinkansen in Japan...).
If that didn't imply that you reside in Japan I'll eat my dragoon grip attacker.
(Jul. 03, 2010 8:09 AM)Mc Frown Wrote: [ -> ]If that didn't imply that you reside in Japan I'll eat my dragoon grip attacker.
The Shinkansen is a very fast moving train in Japan. I suppose 桃太郎 meant that the kids raid stores faster than a Shinkansen. :\
But there's still the whole "in Japan" part.
(Jul. 03, 2010 8:14 AM)Mc Frown Wrote: [ -> ]But there's still the whole "in Japan" part.
The Shinkansen is one of, if not the fastest train in Japan. Saying that kids raid stores faster than the Shinkansen in Japan probably meant: "kids raid stores faster than a Bullet Train."
(Jul. 03, 2010 8:18 AM)Climax Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 03, 2010 8:14 AM)Mc Frown Wrote: [ -> ]But there's still the whole "in Japan" part.
The Shinkansen is one of, if not the fastest train in Japan. Saying that kids raid stores faster than the Shinkansen in Japan probably meant: "kids raid stores faster than a Bullet Train."
That's what I meant; I guess I was lil misleading there; I go back and forth every year or so.... But I must start tests!!!
I would think after listing a proper noun it would be more probable you would be describing in what circumstance or where this event occurs, not its locaton, because it should be a given or easily googled. Saying "kids raid toy stores fast" Is a blanket statement most people would tend to avoid, but I digress.
Okay, so I did some testing against two Beyblades to see which produces more recoil, and above all, which is better. The two that were tested are: Rock Bull DF145SD and Storm Bull DF145SD.
Rock Bull DF145SD 15 Wins (75%) 2 KO's Inflicted
vs.
Storm Bull DF145SD 5 Wins (25%)
So here's how it went down. Rock Bull DF145SD began with a 3-0 lead out of 20 matches, but I was surprised to see Storm Bull DF145SD to come and tie the match at 3-3. Storm Bull DF145SD won those matches because it was able to attack underneath the Rock Wheel and therefore made the opposing Bey lose balance. But then it was a winning streak for the Rock variant until the last two matches, causing the game to end at 15-5 for Rock Bull DF145SD.
As for recoil, I noticed that Storm was pushed back a lot by Rock, but it's quite obvious why (weight issues). Rock has more open ridges along its edge than Storm, so I assume it produces more recoil, but based on observations and testing, it appears Storm produces more.
In conclusion, I feel Rock would be the more superior Stamina Wheel for me at the moment.
Anyone else care to test this out as well? =P Results can vary~