Mar. 30, 2022 3:05 AM
So, recently there was an argument (although not many arguments were made, quite frankly) regarding the fairness of a ruleset for a tournament meant to test the competitive viability of a stadium. The drama all starts here:
https://imgur.com/OTPsGqR
Relatively inoffensive, right? A suggested change in ruling, because this user believed that using a different ruleset from what is normally used with the Takara Tomy standard stadium would lead to fairer testing results, and the existence of a second set of testing with those more common rules in place would instead depend on the results of testing with different rules.
However, this is not how the OP, the tournament host, saw it:
https://imgur.com/4N1nq02
Instead, they cherrypicked a portion of the post, and delivered the legendary line “Ideally this is the last thing I read from you ever again”, claiming the other user broke a rule, without explaining what said rule break was. They then proceeded to confirm that they would be keeping watch on whether or not pocket wall bounces were happening. On most other forums, this is when you would expect a moderator to step in for a blatant rule-break from the OP, breaking rule 1 on the forum: Treat other members well. However, this was not the case. The first commenter proceeded to thank the OP for letting them know that the wall bounces would be tracked, and asked what rule they broke. After this, the OP responded with a lengthy rant:
https://imgur.com/bXk29qc
To start with, they explained what they saw as a violation of the rules – calling the decisions inferior or skewed. In the context of a tournament, this would be the case, but seeing as this tournament was meant for testing first – testing (and thus fairness) first, personal jurisdiction second – it was more comparable to someone informing a tester that they had made a mistake and their tests could not be used – which is done quite commonly without the tester breaking any rules. Following this, the OP went in with a few more insults, stating that “no future communication” was even possible, and stating their belief of the commenter being an alt troll account. At this point, you would think that surely, a moderator would have to have stepped in and told the tournament host to knock it off with their rudeness. As of now, however, nothing has happened.
But why, I hear you asking? Why did the mods let the OP go so far? Well, there’s only one answer I've found – the user in question is an ex-staff member. This shouldn’t even be a problem – the rules explicitly forbid current staff from breaking the rules, for crying out loud - https://imgur.com/AmO11mT - but this ex-staff member clearly breaks the mold here.
So far, I am quite let down by what I have seen of the moderation team and ask them to do better. I implore all of you who have seen similar incidents occur to speak up on this thread about it.
Lastly - before any moderators think about removing this post, I would like to point out that this thread censors all names, and no rules have been broken. There is no direct insult here besides maybe pointing out violations of the rules (which would be quite amusing if doing so counted as breaking the rules, given the ex-staff member tried to do so themself), and rather than being a personal attack on the staff and moderators for doing their jobs, this is a general attack on them for not doing their jobs.
I’d also like to include this little gem from a previous set of posts:
https://imgur.com/6QgCnOz
Where a user calls out the ex-staff member for rudeness, and they claim to know the “actual” rules - which seem to include some sort of clause allowing them to break said rules, evidently. Also, the other user pointing out that the forums would be a mess without the ex-staff member micromodding is not a positive indicator towards the effectiveness of the moderation team.
https://imgur.com/OTPsGqR
Relatively inoffensive, right? A suggested change in ruling, because this user believed that using a different ruleset from what is normally used with the Takara Tomy standard stadium would lead to fairer testing results, and the existence of a second set of testing with those more common rules in place would instead depend on the results of testing with different rules.
However, this is not how the OP, the tournament host, saw it:
https://imgur.com/4N1nq02
Instead, they cherrypicked a portion of the post, and delivered the legendary line “Ideally this is the last thing I read from you ever again”, claiming the other user broke a rule, without explaining what said rule break was. They then proceeded to confirm that they would be keeping watch on whether or not pocket wall bounces were happening. On most other forums, this is when you would expect a moderator to step in for a blatant rule-break from the OP, breaking rule 1 on the forum: Treat other members well. However, this was not the case. The first commenter proceeded to thank the OP for letting them know that the wall bounces would be tracked, and asked what rule they broke. After this, the OP responded with a lengthy rant:
https://imgur.com/bXk29qc
To start with, they explained what they saw as a violation of the rules – calling the decisions inferior or skewed. In the context of a tournament, this would be the case, but seeing as this tournament was meant for testing first – testing (and thus fairness) first, personal jurisdiction second – it was more comparable to someone informing a tester that they had made a mistake and their tests could not be used – which is done quite commonly without the tester breaking any rules. Following this, the OP went in with a few more insults, stating that “no future communication” was even possible, and stating their belief of the commenter being an alt troll account. At this point, you would think that surely, a moderator would have to have stepped in and told the tournament host to knock it off with their rudeness. As of now, however, nothing has happened.
But why, I hear you asking? Why did the mods let the OP go so far? Well, there’s only one answer I've found – the user in question is an ex-staff member. This shouldn’t even be a problem – the rules explicitly forbid current staff from breaking the rules, for crying out loud - https://imgur.com/AmO11mT - but this ex-staff member clearly breaks the mold here.
So far, I am quite let down by what I have seen of the moderation team and ask them to do better. I implore all of you who have seen similar incidents occur to speak up on this thread about it.
Lastly - before any moderators think about removing this post, I would like to point out that this thread censors all names, and no rules have been broken. There is no direct insult here besides maybe pointing out violations of the rules (which would be quite amusing if doing so counted as breaking the rules, given the ex-staff member tried to do so themself), and rather than being a personal attack on the staff and moderators for doing their jobs, this is a general attack on them for not doing their jobs.
I’d also like to include this little gem from a previous set of posts:
https://imgur.com/6QgCnOz
Where a user calls out the ex-staff member for rudeness, and they claim to know the “actual” rules - which seem to include some sort of clause allowing them to break said rules, evidently. Also, the other user pointing out that the forums would be a mess without the ex-staff member micromodding is not a positive indicator towards the effectiveness of the moderation team.