World Beyblade Organization by Fighting Spirits Inc.

Format: The format for this event is Burst Standard, with 3v3 rules. Bring at least 3 Beyblades with non-repeating parts. Please read the Burst Standard rulebook prior to confirming your attendance to ensure that you or your accompanied blader have the appropriate equipment to compete. Legal parts / launchers will not be lent out by event staff.

This is an Unranked tournament! We will be only be using the Hasbro Pro Series Beystadium type pictured above!!! This will not affect your beyrank. However, I will bring prizes, decent ones.

The real purpose of this tournament is to gather data for whether or not the Hasbro Pro Series Beystadium type is a viable replacement for TT B-09 Standard Beystadiums in WBO tournaments. Hypothesis: I don't believe it is! But I'm willing to hold a tournament and try it and find out. 3v3 to maximize useful data.

Host: Deceased Crab

Location: This event will be held outdoors at MLK Jr. Recreational Park.

Time: As the tournament will start promptly at 12:00pm, please plan to arrive around 11:15 am when registration will begin. Registration will close at 11:45am. Confirming your attendance on the WBO event page does not substitute for registration at the venue.

Prizes: Prize pool will include a new in packaging DB Beystadium B-183, a $30 MallOfToys gift card, and a $30 Fourgaming gift card. So, you've got options if you make it to the top 3. I'm also having trophies made for the event.

Other Information:
Please come prepared. It is helpful for both hosts and judges if all participants bring at least three Takara Tomy or Hasbro-manufactured Beyblades of their own and more than one launcher when possible. Please consider bringing at least one launcher for left spin and one for right spin, so you do not spend too much time switching directions. Additionally, parents of children under the age of 13 must be present for the duration of the event, as tournament end times can be difficult to estimate, and we would hate for someone to be left behind once it is over.

Be aware of your belongings. We'd advise users to please, please look after your stuff. While yes this is a Beyblade tournament and we're not suggesting that any of us would attempt to take each other's stuff it is still happening at a public venue where other people (who may not be so friendly) are going to be present as well. Of course, if you see a personal belonging lying around bring it up any of the judges so we can return it to the right person. Your co-operation is appreciated!

All players must arrive on-time. The tournament will begin no later than 12:00 PM and is expected to run for about 4 hours, though if there is a large turnout it may take longer. Please plan accordingly. If you do not arrive at the scheduled start time, you risk being excluded from the tournament. The software we use to run our events–Challonge–does not allow us to add in extra participants once the tournament has started.

If you know in advance that you will be late, please post in this thread or contact someone at the event and depending on the circumstances we can perhaps still include you if we know you will arrive soon.

This event has been approved.

I don't think I'm going to set a cap. If it actually makes it to 65 people (it won't) I don't really have a problem with double elimination. And I'm starting at noon, and I'm going until it's done, and sunset will be at 7:40 PM. So you know what, yeah, let's see how this goes.

Very interested to see how this pans out - I can't say I disagree with your hypothesis, but I am glad someone is giving it a go. I look forward to your tournament report!

Saturday's are hard for me to make by 12. But if I can I will be there. I do have one question. With testing out this stadium and how the pockets are, will we be counting a bounce back into the stadium from the pocket as a KO or still in play?

With the Hasbro pro series beystadium, the pockets are not holes like they are in a B-O9. There is no risk or almost no risk of an actual KO happening. Leaving the stadium is not a thing. Leaving the main ring, that is a thing, but you can also theoretically make it back in from the pockets.

I think, for purposes of this tournament, unless I hear a good reason otherwise, Entering the pocket will not be an instant KO.

(Mar. 08, 2022  6:34 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: [ -> ]With the Hasbro pro series beystadium, the pockets are not holes like they are in a B-O9. There is no risk or almost no risk of an actual KO happening. Leaving the stadium is not a thing. Leaving the main ring, that is a thing, but you can also theoretically make it back in from the pockets.

I think, for purposes of this tournament, unless I hear a good reason otherwise, Entering the pocket will not be an instant KO.

I think that wall bounces should be counted as KOs. The Pro Series stadium already has a myriad of ways to make KOs harder than the currently legal stadiums. Firstly, the tornado ridge is significantly taller, causing certain drivers to catch the ridge better and thus many drivers that are very punishable with attack will already become harder to KO. There’s also a higher ratio of wall to actual pocket in this stadium. Furthermore, the pockets are pretty small, so beys are gonna be even more prone to bouncing back than in the B-09, especially the pocket with the peg-leg thingy. 
You’ve said yourself that the stadium probably won’t be good, so counting wall bounces as KOs would make the stadium at least a little bit better to play in.

(Mar. 09, 2022  12:45 AM)Friedpasta Wrote: [ -> ]I think that wall bounces should be counted as KOs.

Neat! I do not.

There are Four pockets. I have played in this stadium quite a bit during [Hyperlink Blocked], and beys getting knocked into the pockets seems to happen A LOT. But if it manages to bounce back, fine.

I have considered your words! No changes to that planned at this time.

Probably won’t be able to make it… sad noise.

I don't see what the big deal with the pro series stadium is?
When I test with it, which is all the time since I don't have a standard stadium, knockouts, while slightly less common because of the deeper ridge of the ring, still occur quite often, and at almost no point do any of my beys come back out from the pocket after they are KO'd or self-KO'd. The way I see it this just prevents our Beyblades from breaking themselves on the concrete.

I’m still not sure about a 3v3 format even after reading the rulebook. Can someone please explain it to me?

(Mar. 11, 2022  4:57 PM)LegendV3 Wrote: [ -> ]I’m still not sure about a 3v3 format even after reading the rulebook. Can someone please explain it to me?

So you’re going to bring 3 beys to the match. You show them to your opponent, then secretly order them 1-3. Then your first bey plays the opponent’s first bey, your second their second, etc. If you’ve gone through all 3 and no one has reached 3 points, you reorder the beys and play through 1-3 again until 3 points are reached.

I have one of these beystadiums. I'm hoping people can bring at least two more during the tournament. Otherwise, this is going to take a while.

(Mar. 14, 2022  10:26 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: [ -> ]I have one of these beystadiums. I'm hoping people can bring at least two more during the tournament. Otherwise, this is going to take a while.

Mine is a little scuffed up, but I assume that's fine. Is there a difference between the white and black/blue ones? I have the white

I don't think there's a difference between the two.

Is there any restrictions like to bring my son out!

(Mar. 16, 2022  2:54 AM)Mainman16 Wrote: [ -> ]Is there any restrictions like to bring my son out!

Just bring 3 Beyblades and a Launcher then you should be good to go.

I'll bring two stadiums.

(Mar. 09, 2022  1:25 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar. 09, 2022  12:45 AM)Friedpasta Wrote: [ -> ]I think that wall bounces should be counted as KOs.

Neat! I do not.

There are Four pockets. I have played in this stadium quite a bit during [Hyperlink Blocked], and beys getting knocked into the pockets seems to happen A LOT. But if it manages to bounce back, fine.

I have considered your words! No changes to that planned at this time.

I played around with my Pro series stadium today and for standard, I agree things stay in there a lot (and Guilty is a lot better than I expected it would be at putting them there). It is not like the absolute misery of playing plastics in this thing, to be honest it's probably better for BST than PLA (I might actually prefer it to the DB stadium for Burst too personally, rubber flats work better in Haspro somehow).

Anyhow, I am not meaning to tell you how to run your tournament - I'm not in the area after all, but from an experimental design standpoint we count pocket wall hits as KOs in Burst Standard so if you want to do a comparison, perhaps it is best if you minimise variables and follow the same ruling? Or not, you are the host and I'll be watching this tournament with great curiousity either way (and looking forward to your write up!) 😁

We're definitely playing this unranked one Without the wall bounce KO rule. If by the end of the tournament we see any value in the pro series beystadium type as being a comparable replacement to the B-09 for ranked WBO, then we would need at least a second unranked tournament for testing, and that one could leave the wall bounce KO rule in.

(Mar. 20, 2022  1:34 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: [ -> ]We're definitely playing this unranked one Without the wall bounce KO rule. If by the end of the tournament we see any value in the pro series beystadium type as being a comparable replacement to the B-09 for ranked WBO, then we would need at least a second unranked tournament for testing, and that one could leave the wall bounce KO rule in.

Totally fair! I hope it's a good time for all despite the stadium 😁

so the pro series stadium is just the DB stadium but different design, nice I own a pro series stadium (I prob won't have time for tournaments until 2024, reason: i'm 14 so 2 more years and I might be able to make time for tournaments)

(Mar. 21, 2022  3:17 PM)DJCAT8608 Wrote: [ -> ]so the pro series stadium is just the DB stadium but different design

No? That's not even close to true. We took a good look at some differences before Sunday's tournament.

The dish is deep, not DB deep but not Standard shallow. The inner dish size is slightly smaller. The ridge line between the inner dish and next tier is notably higher. And the four pockets are smaller, and are actual pockets.

I suspect rubber flat attack types will work similarly bad to how they do in DB beystadiums; so don't get your hopes up for staff ever accepting this type.

thanks for the description

(Mar. 20, 2022  1:34 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: [ -> ]We're definitely playing this unranked one Without the wall bounce KO rule. If by the end of the tournament we see any value in the pro series beystadium type as being a comparable replacement to the B-09 for ranked WBO, then we would need at least a second unranked tournament for testing, and that one could leave the wall bounce KO rule in.

I think it might be worth keeping track of footage and seeing how balanced it would be if the wall bounce rule were in place, so as to not accidentally disregard the stadium just because of inferior ruling that would have similarly hampered the b-09.