Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF

Yo. I've been using this combo for awhile now, waiting to post this thread. Leggo. A special thanks to Ingulit for his testing app and making everything so much easier. As a tribute, I'll test against MF Scythe Uranus 85 RS ♥

I chose Wyvang because I love it. More than Balro, Flash, or Begirados.

SA165 in lower mode to maximize outer weight distribution and give it a lift against E230 and give it a gap between the disk and lower Wyvang so it smash BD145 opponents.

LRF because R2F was too slow for me. LRF had the speed and proverbial "umph" to carry Wyvang.

Benchmarks:
Wyvang Wyvang GB145 RF vs. Revizer Revizer BD145 RDF
RR always launched first.
Wyvang: wins, 12/20 (All KO)
Revizer: wins, 8/20 (All OS)
Wyvang Wyvang GB145RF win rate: 60%

MF-H Flash Orion GB145 RF vs. Revizer Revizer BD145 RDF
RR always launched first.
Orion: wins, 9/20 (All KO)
Revizer: wins, 11/20 (All OS)
MF-H Flash Orion GB145RF win rate: 45%

Wyvang Dragooon SA165 R2F vs. Revizer^2 E230 RB
RR always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WD: 9 (7 OS, 2 KO)
RR: 1 (0 OS, 1 KO)
WD Win %: 90.0%

Tests

Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. MF-H Duo Cygnus 230 TB
DC always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WW: 10 (0 OS, 10 KO)
DC: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
WW Win %: 100.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Balro^2 BD145 MF
BB launched first on even launches, WW launched first on odd.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WW: 16 (1 OS, 15 KO)
BB: 4 (1 OS, 3 KO)
WW Win %: 80.0%

I GOT ONE BY SHEER DUMB LUCK XD

Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. MF Scythe Uranus 90 RS
SU always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WW: 1 (0 OS, 1 KO)
SU: 9 (6 OS, 3 KO)
WW Win %: 10.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Revizer^2 BD145 RDF
RR always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WW: 14 (0 OS, 14 KO)
RR: 6 (5 OS, 1 KO)
WW Win %: 70.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Killerken Dragooon SA165 WD
KD always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WW: 10 (0 OS, 10 KO)
KD: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
WW Win %: 100.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Phantom Cygnus SR200 TB
PC always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WW: 10 (0 OS, 10 KO)
PC: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
WW Win %: 100.0%

Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Killerken^2 BD145 RB
KK always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WW: 11 (2 OS, 9 KO)
KK: 9 (6 OS, 3 KO)
WW Win %: 55.0%

Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Killerken^2 SR200 TB
KK always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WW: 10 (0 OS, 10 KO)
KK: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
WW Win %: 100.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Genbull^2 E230 MB
GG always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WW: 12 (0 OS, 12 KO)
GG: 8 (6 OS, 2 KO)
WW Win %: 60.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Revizer^2 E230 RB
RR always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WD: 13 (4 OS, 9 KO)
RR: 7 (5 OS, 2 KO)
WD Win %: 65.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. MSF-L Genbull Dragooon F230 CF (EWW)
EW always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WW: 17 (0 OS, 17 KO)
EW: 13 (1 OS, 12 KO)
WW Win %: 56.7%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Genbull Genbull F230 CF
EW always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WW: 10 (0 OS, 10 KO)
EW: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
WW Win %: 100.0%
No offense, but this is just a normal wyvang attacker. I seems like a cool new track to use though. Nice tests.
Do you think you can include a benchmark to your tests?

Can you test VS. MSF-L Genbull Dragooon F230CF/GCF?
(Jan. 27, 2014  12:07 AM)Aquamarine Wrote: No offense, but this is just a normal wyvang attacker. I seems like a cool new track to use though. Nice tests.

No offense, your F230 combo seems like another F230 combo. I like how you put an attack chrome wheel on it though.
There was the purpose to the new track, and thank you.

Kira: Will do!
Benchmark with Wyvang dragoon SA165R2F against Reviser Reviser E230RB plz Smile
I'll do that Smile

But I want you to know, left and right-spin attack are two very different things.
Somebody FINALLY tested this. Geez, that took forever.

Anywho, awesome results! I've tested this thing informally against tons of stuff, and it's definitely a competitive option for Attack. IMO This thing should be added to the tier list as soon as we can get enough results.

#SA165AttackFTW
Yaaaaas. I've been too lazy to test it and today I had nothing to do XD
(Jan. 27, 2014  12:38 AM)DrPepsidew Wrote: I'll do that Smile

But I want you to know, left and right-spin attack are two very different things.

Yes, I know. But the combo I suggested gets very good numbers, so i would like to compare this attack custom to another good attack custom, so I can do my analysis XP
Pepsi is saying that comparing left-spin to right-spin Attack is not really the best comparison; they can behave very differently against the same combo. Wyvang Dragooon won almost completely by OS, something that would have been impossible if it weren't spinning opposite to Revizer; you are closer to doing an Attack vs. aggro Spin steal comparison rather than an appropriate benchmark for this combo.
Maybe you can try Wyvang Wyvang GB145/H145R2F.

It did very well against F230, thanks for the tests!
Thanks Cake Smile
Kira: That's already on the tier list, go read TBD's article on RF/R2F based attack, Wyvang^2 GB145 RF is already benchmarked Tongue_out
But yes, left and right-spin attack are very different. Against same spin, you'll most likely get clean KO's, opposite spin match-ups are usually pushout.
Oh OK. My second choice for a benchmark would have been Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F so thanks for the tests Dr.PepsiDew Smile
Oh, what I meant is, Maybe you can try Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F as a benchmark instead of Wyvnag Dragooon, haha. XD

I wasn't suggesting you use that combo, lol.
(Jan. 27, 2014  6:19 PM)"Kira Wrote: Oh, what I meant is, Maybe you can try Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F as a benchmark instead of Wyvnag Dragooon, haha. XD

I wasn't suggesting you use that combo, lol.

There is a benchmark for that exact combo except with RF instead of R2F